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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 6:56 PM ET
that pretty much looked like the PC version of what Vantel said to me.
- neem55



wellll.

i read VT's as 'don't tell us how to play'

the Bieksa quote was more, don't yell at us, we are a mature bunch and don't need to be scolded to be motivated.

Seems fairly different to me.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 2 @ 6:57 PM ET
Don't ask me. I am firmly against tanking any year.
See my status that i recent updated
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- dbot


haha. So next year is a whole new status decision, hey? Given the fact that there is a elite d-man to tank for?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 6:57 PM ET
If you condone that as leadership then that's a poor example of what to do. As for game play they have been in almost all of them. Only a couple back to backs where they were drained of energy. WD didn't choose to add in players sitting out for boost. So don't know maybe it's a personality thing for you on players displaying emotions. Either way this is way off from being Country Club and where this discussion started.
- Nuck4U


Still relevant to the country club, they are positive all the time which I dont think they should be. Remember Daniel calling out young players last year? That was a big deal because they never do and it sent a strong message. Its not much different than smashing a stick, it gets the team's attention.

I dont need guys to go crazy every game, but I think there are moments where they shouldnt look for the silver lining. That Arizona game before the break was awful, going 9 games without a win was bad, getting shutout 4 times in a 5 game stretch. As dbot says, maybe this stuff happens behind closed doors, but as a fan I wouldnt mind seeing some of that
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 6:58 PM ET
Even though I've been disappointed with his overall play, I have seen E.G get pretty dam emotional, both in the wins and losses
- Whiskey-Tango


I forgot Dorsett wears his heart on his sleeve too. Guy does what he can to spark the team when its not going well
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 2 @ 6:58 PM ET
no....but you can readily find him in the VFZ.
- LeftCoaster


Did he just tell yo to say that?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 6:59 PM ET
haha. So next year is a whole new status decision, hey? Given the fact that there is a elite d-man to tank for?
- neem55

NEVER TANK HAVE SOME PRIDE
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 7:00 PM ET
haha. So next year is a whole new status decision, hey? Given the fact that there is a elite d-man to tank for?
- neem55


Nah.

I'm not bipolar than that.
More even keel Sedin-like.
Never too high, never too low.

If we win, i'm stoked.
If we lose and get a good draft pick, i'm stoked.

i would never want to see the team intentionally put together a less competitive team in an effort to secure a lotto pick.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 7:00 PM ET
I forgot Dorsett wears his heart on his sleeve too. Guy does what he can to spark the team when its not going well
- WhiteLie

I miss Dorsett, always entertaining. heart and soul guy
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:00 PM ET
Sure, he says their mindset has been "We're gonna get to the playoffs. We're gonna try to do that every night."

How does not getting a shot on goal for half a game against the worst team in the league not stir something in them? Or when they went winless in 9 games? Is that what a playoff team does or are they ok with missing it?

Dallas is a team that expected to be a playoff team and a cup contender. They are tied with Vancouver and this is how their captain reacted during a bad game:



Some will call it a tantrum or whatever, but I dont remember the last time I saw the Canucks frustrated with how they have played and there have been some embarrassingly bad moments

- WhiteLie

Dorsett. Luongo's first game back at Rogers Arena with Florida. The Canucks spent more time hugging him than trying to score on him. That was the last time I saw a Canuck player truly pissed off.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 2 @ 7:01 PM ET
wellll.

i read VT's as 'don't tell us how to play'

the Bieksa quote was more, don't yell at us, we are a mature bunch and don't need to be scolded to be motivated.

Seems fairly different to me.

- dbot


"I think we can handle it internally with the players" Aka fack off. I agree it's not quite the same as don't tell us how to play... but it's pretty close.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 2 @ 7:01 PM ET
Nah.

I'm not bipolar than that.
More even keel Sedin-like.
Never too high, never too low.

If we win, i'm stoked.
If we lose and get a good draft pick, i'm stoked.

i would never want to see the team intentionally put together a less competitive team in an effort to secure a lotto pick
.

- dbot

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:03 PM ET
that pretty much looked like the PC version of what Vantel said to me.
- neem55



Yup

And we won't forget Hanks quote this year when asked if he and his brother need to be Split up .

No that's not going to happen.

No use bringing in a coach at this point until he can do his job.

They all seem to be happy together and their contracts expire soon . As long as JB doesn't extend any of them that's fine
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 2 @ 7:03 PM ET
I just realized that as of saturday(?) we are going to start seeing a lot of weak goals for awhile as goalies will need to adjust to new pads.
- Retinalz


Is it the pads too ? I heard about a week ago that after all the concern it's just the pants being adjusted mid season
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:04 PM ET
wellll.

i read VT's as 'don't tell us how to play'

the Bieksa quote was more, don't yell at us, we are a mature bunch and don't need to be scolded to be motivated.

Seems fairly different to me.

- dbot



So it's the players job to tell the coach how to coach

I could have swore it was suppose to be the other way around
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
NEVER TANK HAVE SOME PRIDE
- CanuckDon


Pride? Being a bubble team is nothing to be proud of. Or did you mean I should have some group of Lions? Either way, I have pride in my own achievements. That's enough for me. I'd rather see the Canucks win a Stanley Cup, not so I can be proud but because it would give me great joy. Clearly you and I derive different things from watching hockey. Were you ashamed when the Canucks lost to the Bruins?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
Is it the pads too ? I heard about a week ago that after all the concern it's just the pants being adjusted mid season
- Redmile247




Miller has traded in his pants for Reno 911 cutoffs
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
Yup

And we won't forget Hanks quote this year when asked if he and his brother need to be Split up .

No that's not going to happen.

No use bringing in a coach at this point until he can do his job.

They all seem to be happy together and their contracts expire soon . As long as JB doesn't extend any of them that's fine

- VANTEL


For all the praise the Sedins get around here ( rightfully so ) this is a comment that as a fan I would be tearing them apart for ...you aren't playing well together ...any other line in hockey would be split up if not producing ...what makes you so special ?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
Dorsett. Luongo's first game back at Rogers Arena with Florida. The Canucks spent more time hugging him than trying to score on him. That was the last time I saw a Canuck player truly pissed off.
- Marwood



I did forget about Dorsett. He can be a hothead sometimes and do some stupid things, but that guy wont hold back if the team needs a wakeup call
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
I was fine with it. He moved a handful of non 1st rounders and got hits and misses on a couple of the trades. It served it's purpose. That strategy is not needed now. JB has said as much in his interviews this season. Of course, there's always the chance of a trade for a prospect or very young player being acquired if it fits the direction of this team. The days of gambling on Vey types are done I think. We now have our own prospects to work into the line up and are college/pro age.
- boonerbuck



dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
So it's the players job to tell the coach how to coach

I could have swore it was suppose to be the other way around

- VANTEL


huh?

No, that was the distinction between the two.

Your's sounded like Bieksa was saying, dont' tell us how to play...which would be problematic, because the coach is the coach and determines how to play.

The actual quote was more 'don't try to motivate us by tearing a strip off of us', which is not about how to play, but how to work with or manage a certain group.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
Miller has traded in his pants for Reno 911 cutoffs
- VANTEL


Seems like something bryz would do ...I will wait for the results before I judge
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
Is it the pads too ? I heard about a week ago that after all the concern it's just the pants being adjusted mid season
- Redmile247

I though it was pads in general.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 2 @ 7:09 PM ET

I did forget about Dorsett. He can be a hothead sometimes and do some stupid things, but that guy wont hold back if the team needs a wakeup call

- WhiteLie

He is missed.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
Pride? Being a bubble team is nothing to be proud of. Or did you mean I should have some group of Lions? Either way, I have pride in my own achievements. That's enough for me. I'd rather see the Canucks win a Stanley Cup, not so I can be proud but because it would give me great joy. Clearly you and I derive different things from watching hockey. Were you ashamed when the Canucks lost to the Bruins?
- neem55


Never too high, never too low.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
that pretty much looked like the PC version of what Vantel said to me.
- neem55


I know, but I've been waiting a while for a good opportunity to call Vantel Trump....now that I have I wish I had chosen a better opportunity.
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