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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:34 PM ET
If they sign one of your free agents then you don't lose anyone at the draft. You only lose one player to Vegas
- VANTEL


Sure, but i don't think Vegas will be after Miller, Burrows or Larsen when Sbisa, Hansen or Granlund are available and already under contract.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:34 PM ET
If they sign via free agency then they aren't yours ...they are free to sign anywhere
- Redmile247



They are not UFA s until July first so they are still in fact yours. Elliotte Freidman came out and discussed then about a month ago.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:35 PM ET
Sure, but i don't think Vegas will be after Miller, Burrows or Larsen when Sbisa, Hansen or Granlund are available and already under contract.
- Whiskey-Tango



They might have interest in Miller.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:41 PM ET
They are not UFA s until July first so they are still in fact yours. Elliotte Freidman came out and discussed then about a month ago.
- VANTEL


One would have to believe they wouldn't sign a guy and lose the ability to take another player unless it's an impact player tbey are signing
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:42 PM ET
Sure, but there is no two-way exchange of assets.
Thus, what would the official league record show?

Vancouver trades 2nd to Vegas for the protection of Luca Sbisa?
Then it's binding?

- Whiskey-Tango


I am sure it is either considered pending until the moment arrives where they can actually move picks (Vegas wont actually own the pick in the eyes of the league until the transfer is completed), or its listed as complete but with conditions, like how they handle conditional draft picks/player to be named on regular trades.

That all being said, they can still make deals with Vegas after the trade deadline. That is only in place as the last day to trade players so they are eligible for playoffs. We saw a couple deals during the playoffs last year I believe, so no reason Vegas cant still be involved
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:43 PM ET
One would have to believe they wouldn't sign a guy and lose the ability to take another player unless it's an impact player tbey are signing
- Redmile247



Sbisa has one year left and then is a free agent . That is a risk for them also.They can negotiate and extend an UFA prior to the draft.

Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:45 PM ET
I am sure it is either considered pending until the moment arrives where they can actually move picks (Vegas wont actually own the pick in the eyes of the league until the transfer is completed), or its listed as complete but with conditions, like how they handle conditional draft picks/player to be named on regular trades.

That all being said, they can still make deals with Vegas after the trade deadline. That is only in place as the last day to trade players so they are eligible for playoffs. We saw a couple deals during the playoffs last year I believe, so no reason Vegas cant still be involved

- WhiteLie


Very good points.
Thanks!
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:49 PM ET
Sbisa has one year left and then is a free agent . That is a risk for them also.They can negotiate and extend an UFA prior to the draft.
- VANTEL


They can also pick granlund and then sign Miller July 1
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:51 PM ET
They can also pick granlund and then sign Miller July 1
- Redmile247


Yes

But July 1 st Miller is no longer a Canucks and Canucks still only give up one player to Vegas
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:58 PM ET
King Hendrik sucking again

Aho with hat trick

Leafs losing already

Glad the allstar break is over and there's some real hockey again

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:59 PM ET
Yes

But July 1 st Miller is no longer a Canucks and Canucks still only give up one player to Vegas

- VANTEL


My point was why would Vegas try and sign a free agent before the draft ...makes little sense when they can wait and get another player to go with the free agent
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 9:00 PM ET
King Hendrik sucking again

Aho with hat trick

Leafs losing already

Glad the allstar break is over and there's some real hockey again

- Redmile247



Flames can sign him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 9:02 PM ET
My point was why would Vegas try and sign a free agent before the draft ...makes little sense when they can wait and get another player to go with the free agent
- Redmile247



If they sign the free agent before the 1 st they get first crack at him. After the first of July they have 30 other teams to compete with to sign the UFA
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 31 @ 9:03 PM ET
hey HBers, we should organize a trip for us to vegas and see a nuck game and get into some trouble oops I mean fun slap slap punch ouch jeez honey I was only kidding
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 31 @ 9:07 PM ET
hey HBers, we should organize a trip for us to vegas and see a nuck game and get into some trouble oops I mean fun slap slap punch ouch jeez honey I was only kidding
- Bettmanhatesus

Let's see how the picnic goes before we make any further plans.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 9:08 PM ET
Let's see how the picnic goes before we make any further plans.
- Marwood

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 9:10 PM ET
Flames can sign him
- VANTEL


He's got 4 more years at 8.5 per

Miller is a free agent ...I'd take a run at him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 9:11 PM ET
He's got 4 more years at 8.5 per

Miller is a free agent ...I'd take a run at him

- Redmile247



Don't be surprised if Jim extends Miller for 4 more years at 8.5 too
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 9:17 PM ET
Don't be surprised if Jim extends Miller for 4 more years at 8.5 too
- VANTEL


Wouldn't surprise me if Miller can't get a deal close to his wife if he says (frank) it and asks for something along those lines
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 9:30 PM ET
Wouldn't surprise me if Miller can't get a deal close to his wife if he says (frank) it and asks for something along those lines
- Redmile247


I think Miller will try and sign a short contract with a cup contender.
Anaheim/SJ sort of thing.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 9:34 PM ET
I think Miller will try and sign a short contract with a cup contender.
Anaheim/SJ sort of thing.

- dbot


think he would take a 2 mill per year deal ?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 9:36 PM ET
think he would take a 2 mill per year deal ?
- Redmile247


i'd think he'd want more than that.
1 year. 4.25 m.

rinse

repeat
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 9:39 PM ET
i'd think he'd want more than that.
1 year. 4.25 m.

rinse

repeat

- dbot


Both the ducks and sharks have low cap hit goalies too so it could be doable but he might not play much
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 9:47 PM ET
Both the ducks and sharks have low cap hit goalies too so it could be doable but he might not play much
- Redmile247


My thoughts exactly.
Could be some good tandems there.


....or he could sign in Calgary...
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 31 @ 9:51 PM ET
Yeah, if we can't move Edler Tanev is the next best choice.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I keep trying to think who could be a possible trade partner for Edler to waive and I keep coming back to the Rangers. They have a shot at the cup but their Defence isn't great. McDonagh, Holden, Skjei, Girardi, Staal. Surprisingly, they've only used 7 D all year so they arnt injury prone, BUT they also don't have much depth to call upon in Hartford either.
They have the cap space and a ton of scoring up front, IF they sent someone like Kevin Hayes or JT Miller back our way...

wishful thinking
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