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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 7:21 PM ET
I'd love the jets to acquire tanev
- Ross77


We'll have to take Ehlers to appease the masses here.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 7:21 PM ET
I'd love the jets to acquire tanev
- Ross77


Brandon ?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 7:22 PM ET
We'll have to take Ehlers to appease the masses here.
- dbot


You had your chance ...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 7:23 PM ET
Brandon ?
- Redmile247


that's teh one they already have.
I think he means Chris...
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 7:23 PM ET
that's teh one they already have.
I think he means Chris...

- dbot


Obviously
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 7:26 PM ET
Obviously
- Redmile247


via GIPHY

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 7:28 PM ET

via GIPHY


- dbot


Is that Nuck4U ?
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 31 @ 7:29 PM ET
I guarantee the usual group here will once again be quoted near TDL as saying "knowing Benning, he'll trade a 1st for a rental"... happens every year.


- boonerbuck


I think you are confusing regimes, as that was Gillis' go to.
It will likely be something along the lines of:

"Knowing Benning, he will fail to trade our UFA's......period"



Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:37 PM ET
I'd love the jets to acquire tanev
- Ross77


Sure thing just send Laine over.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 31 @ 7:51 PM ET
Very Interesting:

"Golden Knights GM George McPhee will be permitted to execute trades and transactions ahead of the March 1 trade deadline, so long as owner Bill Foley satisfies the requirements to officially make Las Vegas as home of the NHL’s 31st franchise in the days prior".

"For instance, the Golden Knights may acquire a draft pick, prospect or future considerations from another NHL team in exchange for their agreement to not select a particular exposed player in June’s expansion draft".

http://www.tsn.ca/golden-...e-deadline-deals-1.661940
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:54 PM ET
I would like to see Hansen paired up with Bo. Burr can play with Sutter. Maybe next practice WD will give that a go?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 7:57 PM ET
Very Interesting:

"Golden Knights GM George McPhee will be permitted to execute trades and transactions ahead of the March 1 trade deadline, so long as owner Bill Foley satisfies the requirements to officially make Las Vegas as home of the NHL’s 31st franchise in the days prior".

"For instance, the Golden Knights may acquire a draft pick, prospect or future considerations from another NHL team in exchange for their agreement to not select a particular exposed player in June’s expansion draft".

http://www.tsn.ca/golden-...e-deadline-deals-1.661940

- Whiskey-Tango


Future considerations smacks of collusion. Well brings the whole exposure of players new meaning. That still means they pick someone else on the team though.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:01 PM ET
Future considerations smacks of collusion. Well brings the whole esposure of players new meaning. That still means they pick someone else on the team though.
- Nuck4U


I wouldnt call it collusion, to me its saying "hey we are going to leave Hansen exposed but really we want to keep him. What would it cost to trade for him?" And then they negotiate and agree that Vegas taking Gaunce and a 2nd round pick is what it would cost Van to trade for him and they go ahead and skip that extra step and pass on the pick when Vegas takes Gaunce in the draft instead - as an example
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 31 @ 8:05 PM ET
I'd love the jets to acquire tanev
- Ross77

Are you Brandon?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 31 @ 8:09 PM ET
I wouldnt call it collusion, to me its saying "hey we are going to leave Hansen exposed but really we want to keep him. What would it cost to trade for him?" And then they negotiate and agree that Vegas taking Gaunce and a 2nd round pick is what it would cost Van to trade for him and they go ahead and skip that extra step and pass on the pick when Vegas takes Gaunce in the draft instead - as an example
- WhiteLie


Sounds like a topic that will inflame many. In that scenario for Canucks to hold on to assets for playoff run they wind up sending to 2nd rounders to Vegas not to pick Hansen and Sbisa but take Guance for example.

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 8:15 PM ET
Sounds like a topic that will inflame many. In that scenario for Canucks to hold on to assets for playoff run they wind up sending to 2nd rounders to Vegas not to pick Hansen and Sbisa but take Guance for example.
- Nuck4U

Except in past expansion drafts the price has been a 6th, so no not really
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 31 @ 8:15 PM ET
I think you are confusing regimes, as that was Gillis' go to.
It will likely be something along the lines of:

"Knowing Benning, he will fail to trade our UFA's......period"


- Whiskey-Tango


I'm not confusing anything. I've laughed at people for that comment the two previous seasons... and expect to this season.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:18 PM ET
I wouldnt call it collusion, to me its saying "hey we are going to leave Hansen exposed but really we want to keep him. What would it cost to trade for him?" And then they negotiate and agree that Vegas taking Gaunce and a 2nd round pick is what it would cost Van to trade for him and they go ahead and skip that extra step and pass on the pick when Vegas takes Gaunce in the draft instead - as an example
- WhiteLie


The only thing i find wary about this scenario is, what mechanisms are in place to ensure that Vegas stands by its word after acquiring such a pick.

March 1st, 2017.

McPhee: "Thanks for the 2nd Jim"
Benning: " Thanks for promising not to draft Sbisa"

June 21, 2017.

McPhee: "Vegas is proud to select, from Vancouver, Luca Sbisa"
Benning:
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:22 PM ET
Sounds like a topic that will inflame many. In that scenario for Canucks to hold on to assets for playoff run they wind up sending to 2nd rounders to Vegas not to pick Hansen and Sbisa but take Guance for example.
- Nuck4U


Sure but realistically its better to have Vegas involved than to head into the expansion draft blind. I am sure every GM will be calling to see who on their roster interests them. If McFee says it costs a 2nd rounder and Gaunce to keep Hansen, then JB knows what price needs to be met to move him and make room.

Like neem said, in the past it has been low costs in the past. A lot of junk

San Jose traded Jan Caloun, a ninth-round pick (Martin Paroulek) in the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, and a conditional pick in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft to Columbus on June 11, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select Evgeni Nabokov.

Buffalo traded Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre, Matt Davidson, and two fifth-round draft picks, one each in the 2000 (Tyler Kolarik) and 2001 (Andreas Jämtin) Entry Drafts, to Columbus on June 23, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select Dominik Hasek or Martin Biron
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:24 PM ET
The only thing i find wary about this scenario is, what mechanisms are in place to ensure that Vegas stands by its word after acquiring such a pick.

March 1st, 2017.

McPhee: "Thanks for the 2nd Jim"
Benning: " Thanks for promising not to draft Sbisa"

June 21, 2017.

McPhee: "Vegas is proud to select, from Vancouver, Luca Sbisa"
Benning:

- Whiskey-Tango


I think trade calls are like contracts, once registered with the league they are binding. They can always add conditions, like "VAN can still trade Sbisa if they prefer a different deal prior to the trade deadline" or if injury occurs the deal is voided or a replacement player is to be named, etc. but no way can they just get a free pick on a handshake promise
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:24 PM ET
The only thing i find wary about this scenario is, what mechanisms are in place to ensure that Vegas stands by its word after acquiring such a pick.

March 1st, 2017.

McPhee: "Thanks for the 2nd Jim"
Benning: " Thanks for promising not to draft Sbisa"

June 21, 2017.

McPhee: "Vegas is proud to select, from Vancouver, Luca Sbisa"
Benning:

- Whiskey-Tango



If they sign one of your free agents then you don't lose anyone at the draft. You only lose one player to Vegas
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 31 @ 8:30 PM ET
If they sign one of your free agents then you don't lose anyone at the draft. You only lose one player to Vegas
- VANTEL

Hey Vegas sign Philip Larsen.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 31 @ 8:32 PM ET
Hey Vegas sign Philip Larsen.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Pedan
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 31 @ 8:32 PM ET
I think trade calls are like contracts, once registered with the league they are binding. They can always add conditions, like "VAN can still trade Sbisa if they prefer a different deal prior to the trade deadline" or if injury occurs the deal is voided or a replacement player is to be named, etc. but no way can they just get a free pick on a handshake promise
- WhiteLie


Sure, but there is no two-way exchange of assets.
Thus, what would the official league record show?

Vancouver trades 2nd to Vegas for the protection of Luca Sbisa?
Then it's binding?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:32 PM ET
If they sign one of your free agents then you don't lose anyone at the draft. You only lose one player to Vegas
- VANTEL


If they sign via free agency then they aren't yours ...they are free to sign anywhere
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