Hutton won't get you Palat. Conversely, Hutton had a good season last year but is nothing more than a depth D.
- golfingsince

No he won't but cap space is the issue.

Keep him and deal gudbranson and edler after the expansion draft for draft picks. Larsen and sbisa at the deadline.

Tryamkin has made gudbranson irrelevant, hes already better.

I like sbisa this year(funny i know) but he will get picked up during expansion so might as well take a 4th or something for him at the deadline.

Next years D line up:

Hutton Tanev
Tryamkin Stetcher
OJ UFA
Pedan Subban/Neill

I know Hutton isnt a top pairing guy but might as well go young and maximize assets I dont think this group would be that much of a drop from what we currently have.

Id also deal Hansen, Burrows and any other of the Skille types that can easily be replaced.

Sedin sedin Ericksson
Sven bo boeser
Granlund sutter rodin(if he ever plays again lol)
JV Patrick?? Labate

Trade Miller at the deadline and resign him to a one year deal in the off season.


I know this wont happen but wishful thinking.. Id assume we loose Gaunce if this is the case, who cares. I see this as best way to maximize picks and leave nothing for LV in expansion.
- mauryballstein

Nice idea to move everything possible for picks and prospects, but we saw last TDL that JB and company are a bit ham fisted when it comes to the fine art of moving guys to maximize asset value....

Not taking the 3rd for Hamhuis was a waste of an asset when he just walked in the summer anyways. What's even worse was not planning to move him, Vrbata, Matthias, etc... over the last couple of seasons... they should have an exit plan for all their players coming up on RFA or UFA status...

even if the player has a NTC, they should at least ask if the player would entertain the idea of a trade if the team falls out of the playoff picture...

According to Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman, the NHL's salary cap will be remaining flat next year.

i don't think so either. just saying what i would like.

this team needs a total reset. hitchcock is a guy who can come in and do exactly that.

it won't happen b/c the team keeps wallowing in mediocrity.
- RealityChecker

agree

Yeah, if we can't move Edler Tanev is the next best choice.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I like Maury's idea, but yeah, Edler and Tanev should go...

Nice idea to move everything possible for picks and prospects, but we saw last TDL that JB and company are a bit ham fisted when it comes to the fine art of moving guys to maximize asset value....

Not taking the 3rd for Hamhuis was a waste of an asset when he just walked in the summer anyways. What's even worse was not planning to move him, Vrbata, Matthias, etc... over the last couple of seasons... they should have an exit plan for all their players coming up on RFA or UFA status...

even if the player has a NTC, they should at least ask if the player would entertain the idea of a trade if the team falls out of the playoff picture...
- kaptaan

I would take a third for Burrows and a second for Miller

Point
- WhiteLie

If TB wanted to make playoffs by getting top D like Tanev then Point or Howden should be starting points. I might go so far that SBisa could fetch one straight up given importance of D and his developed play.

Hutton won't get you Palat. Conversely, Hutton had a good season last year but is nothing more than a depth D.
- golfingsince

Kid has played 116 games. Let see where he's at in a season or two before making such a judgement.

Nice idea to move everything possible for picks and prospects, but we saw last TDL that JB and company are a bit ham fisted when it comes to the fine art of moving guys to maximize asset value....

Not taking the 3rd for Hamhuis was a waste of an asset when he just walked in the summer anyways. What's even worse was not planning to move him, Vrbata, Matthias, etc... over the last couple of seasons... they should have an exit plan for all their players coming up on RFA or UFA status...

even if the player has a NTC, they should at least ask if the player would entertain the idea of a trade if the team falls out of the playoff picture...
- kaptaan

We were in contention for the PO's then later Edler/Sutter went down with season ending injuries. A 3rd was an insult. Vrbata was an idiot. Now can u move on.

If TB wanted to make playoffs by getting top D like Tanev then Point and Howden should be starting points. I might go so far that SBisa could fetch straight up given importance of D and his developed play.
- Nuck4U

I guess it depends on how they view their chances this year. Being as tight as they are to the cap, Point is cost certainty for the next couple years of his ELC, then possible bridge deal, etc. Moving on from Johnson/Palat before their big payday seems more reasonable, though it may set them back this year

I wouldnt call it collusion, to me its saying "hey we are going to leave Hansen exposed but really we want to keep him. What would it cost to trade for him?" And then they negotiate and agree that Vegas taking Gaunce and a 2nd round pick is what it would cost Van to trade for him and they go ahead and skip that extra step and pass on the pick when Vegas takes Gaunce in the draft instead - as an example
- WhiteLie

the point is to make Vegas viable as soon as possible and having this ability helps make that happen so they can stock their farm team with a range of prospects as well as the guys they get as UFA or from the expansion draft.

If TB wanted to make playoffs by getting top D like Tanev then Point and Howden should be starting points. I might go so far that SBisa could fetch straight up given importance of D and his developed play.
- Nuck4U

T.B's problem is cap.

They basically gave away a pretty decent Dman to MTL for scraps due to renewal concerns.

They got Hedman's 7.8 deal coming in next season with Drouin, Johnson and Palat becoming RFA's.

Kid has played 116 games. Let see where he's at in a season or two before making such a judgement.
- Whiskey-Tango

That's kind of the point.

Proclaiming he's a good 3-4 D is just as asinine.

Kid has played 116 games. Let see where he's at in a season or two before making such a judgement.
- Whiskey-Tango

I think he was commenting on the post saying Hutton was a solid 3-4, which he is definitely not at this time. He can be in a couple years, but on a decent team he is reasonably a 3rd pairing guy right now

My thought was could Hitch do this working or directing WD now? As in a managerial role that has him working with coaching. Then move onto doing same for Comets roster so future call ups are all on board.
- Nuck4U

are you suggesting a new role as "coaching manager"?

We were in contention for the PO's then later Edler/Sutter went down with season ending injuries. A 3rd was an insult. Vrbata was an idiot. Now can u move on.
- Nighthawk

Vrbata's wife was expecting. if they weren't planning on re-signing the guy, they should have moved on by talking to him over the summer or during the season so he could plan appropriately... he still had his place in AZ from what I recall...

T.B's problem is cap.

They basically gave away a pretty decent Dman to MTL for scraps due to renewal concerns.

They got Hedman's 7.8 deal coming in next season with Drouin, Johnson and Palat becoming RFA's.
- Whiskey-Tango

And its a real problem at that.
Nobody is going to do them any favours so I expect some more bargains.

That's kind of the point.

Proclaiming he's a good 3-4 D is just as asinine.
- golfingsince

My bad.
I suppose I'm too used to posters calling players a bust after a season and a half.

Hutton won't get you Palat. Conversely, Hutton had a good season last year but is nothing more than a depth D.
- golfingsince

A depth D playing top 4 minutes on a team that people are talking about how strong their depth is. I doubt that people are talking about Van's depth in the 6-7 depth defence position.

A depth D playing top 4 minutes on a team that people are talking about how strong their depth is. I doubt that people are talking about Van's depth in the 6-7 depth defence position.
- manvanfan

A young D @2.8m with promise for a talent that TBL cannot afford unless another talent is traded under the same circumstances is not about equality. Its about in between a rock & a hard place. Who else has D to offer that can afford resigning a Palat? I see what u r saying👍

And its a real problem at that.
Nobody is going to do them any favours so I expect some more bargains.
- Nighthawk

Sure, but they can't really take much salary back, thus they will likely be looking to ship one of those guys out for prospects or picks, which is what we should not be doing.

Unless we want to take back a bum like Garrison or Coburn

T.B's problem is cap.

They basically gave away a pretty decent Dman to MTL for scraps due to renewal concerns.

They got Hedman's 7.8 deal coming in next season with Drouin, Johnson and Palat becoming RFA's.
- Whiskey-Tango

Cap deals should be done off-season. MTL was a Vegas move as they can't protect. If TB wants to make playoffs then a TDL deal would cost exempt players going the other way as far as what makes sense to Nucks.

Sure, but they can't really take much salary back, thus they will likely be looking to ship one of those guys out for prospects or picks, which is what we should not be doing.

Unless we want to take back a bum like Garrison or Coburn
- Whiskey-Tango

Filpula more likely. Anchor contracts again r TBL problem & mess.

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Cap deals should be done off-season. MTL was a Vegas move as they can't protect. If TB wants to make playoffs then a TDL deal would cost exempt players going the other way as far as what makes sense to Nucks.
- Nuck4U

Thats just it i think TB is screwed if they don't make a move to get in yhe PO's.
They r struggling mightily. Cost exempt players could be packaged if we win the trade.