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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
How do you know the lineup in two years?
- VANTEL

Is this a serious question? One would assume with current contract commitments and drafted players I could come up with a list of 70% of the players that'll be on the team in two years. It's not that difficult to figure out.

The other 30% is the caveat.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
Of course. But when you're at the bottom of the league, or near the bottom, which we have been for two years, drafting is all that much more important.
- LeftCoaster



I am nitpicking but drafting is important every year. That i how teams become bottom feeders is by not having players in the system ready to replace.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
Is this a serious question? One would assume with current contract commitments and drafted players I could come up with a list of 70% of the players that'll be on the team in two years. It's not that difficult to figure out.

The other 30% is the caveat.

- LeftCoaster



I will imagine Canucks will have made 2 significant trades by then and 2 significant draft picks . Plus the fact they will have 14 mil in cap space . That could be 6 significant players plus maybe Boeser Demko or OJ .

A lot can happen in two years.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
I will imagine Canucks will have made 2 significant trades by then and 2 significant draft picks . Plus the fact they will have 14 mil in cap space . That could be 6 significant players plus maybe Boeser Demko or OJ .

A lot can happen in two years.

- VANTEL

I don't know about a lot in terms of being impactful players, but a lot it terms of the poop at the bottom. They've replaced last years poop with this years poop, Megna, Chaput, Skille, Gaunce, Larsen, Rodin, Gudbranson, Boucher etc. etc.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
I am nitpicking but drafting is important every year. That i how teams become bottom feeders is by not having players in the system ready to replace.
- VANTEL

Something the Canucks know all too well over their 46 years #noCups
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:29 PM ET
I don't know about a lot in terms of being impactful players, but he's a lot it terms of the poop at the bottom. They've replaced last years poop with this years poop, Megna, Chaput, Skille, Gaunce, Larsen, Rodin, Boucher etc. etc.
- LeftCoaster



I think Benning may have drafted someone to replace the fourth liners.

Your comment stated when the Sedins leave we will be the worst team. That is right up their with the experts prediction Canucks will end with 63 points this year.

You can't fix everything in one year. Benning has been fixing a little bit every year so lets wait until two more years comes around.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:29 PM ET
Something the Canucks know all too well over their 46 years #noCups
- LeftCoaster



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
I will imagine Canucks will have made 2 significant trades by then and 2 significant draft picks . Plus the fact they will have 14 mil in cap space . That could be 6 significant players plus maybe Boeser Demko or OJ .

A lot can happen in two years.

- VANTEL


A ton can happen in two years with our beginnings we have.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:35 PM ET
I think Benning may have drafted someone to replace the fourth liners.

Your comment stated when the Sedins leave we will be the worst team. That is right up their with the experts prediction Canucks will end with 63 points this year.

You can't fix everything in one year. Benning has been fixing a little bit every year so lets wait until two more years comes around.

- VANTEL

That was my point exactly, it takes multiple years of building to produce a competitive team, something I was trying to convey to Hawk. His stance was we're fine right where we sit, I call bullpoop, we're not fine, there's plenty of work to be done.

It's gonna take another three to five years of drafting to even be remotely competitive post Sedin. The chances of signing a ufa in his prime, like Tavares, is almost nil, thus I stand by my prediction.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:36 PM ET
I am not complaining at all even though it may come across as it on here.

Manvanfan said today he hopes the Canucks become the CBJs . Their players are faster and meaner and play a different style. It is not going to happen

Posters on here saying we will get a top 5 pick. The Sedins will keep us in the .500 range not the .300 range . That is actually a compliment

I said they create as much scoring chances as they give up. That is fact everyone gets old .

I see the Canucks honoring the existing contracts of all the vets. So people hoping for top picks IMO is pretty unlikely and we will change our style and culture in three years.

- VANTEL



It's hard to convey everything across a keyboard and screen, I understand. A lot of these conversations would be more fun around a table with several drinks although I would worry about the safety of some including myself.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:38 PM ET
Anything top five is a positive for the clubs future. Unless Aquilini picks Virtanen again
- LeftCoaster


Fixed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:38 PM ET
Fixed.
- Marwood

fair...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:41 PM ET
I'm not wearing panties
- CanuckDon

Commando!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:42 PM ET
That was my point exactly, it takes multiple years of building to produce a competitive team, something I was trying to convey to Hawk. His stance was we're fine right where we sit, I call bullpoop, we're not fine, there's plenty of work to be done.

It's gonna take another three to five years of drafting to even be remotely competitive list Sedin. The chances of signing a ufa in his prime, like Tavares, is almost nil, thus I stand by my prediction.

- LeftCoaster



Definitely a lot to be done , but we do have more in place than people think we do.

I imagine in 2018 -2019 when the Twins leave Jake will be ready at least to be a third liner to replace Megna . Maybe Lebate might be a fourth liner by then . Dorsett will be better choice than one of our current fourth liners.

I am sure Bo will be more dominant. Maybe by then Ericksson might be comfortable with the Canucks and find his rythym by then?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:44 PM ET


It's hard to convey everything across a keyboard and screen, I understand. A lot of these conversations would be more fun around a table with several drinks although I would worry about the safety of some including myself.

- Marwood



LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:45 PM ET
Definitely a lot to be done , but we do have more in place than people think we do.

I imagine in 2018 -2019 when the Twins leave Jake will be ready at least to be a third liner to replace Megna . Maybe Lebate might be a fourth liner by then . Dorsett will be better choice than one of our current fourth liners.

I am sure Bo will be more dominant. Maybe by then Ericksson might be comfortable with the Canucks and find his rythym by then?

- VANTEL

You need highend players to win, not plugs like Virtanen and Labate, something in short supply when you're talking about the Canucks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:47 PM ET
You need highend players to win, not plugs like Virtanen and Labate, something in short supply when you're talking about the Canucks.
- LeftCoaster



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:48 PM ET
Londons team and goalie is horrible
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 28 @ 4:50 PM ET
Londons team and goalie is horrible
- VANTEL

Is that why they have the second best win percentage in the OHL? London's regular goalie is out.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:51 PM ET
Is that why they have the second best win percentage in the OHL? London's regular goalie is out.
- manvanfan



They suck today
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
They suck today
- VANTEL

They have not played a very good game. OJ is never ever going to clear the front of the net. Better keep Gudbranson.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
I will imagine Canucks will have made 2 significant trades by then and 2 significant draft picks . Plus the fact they will have 14 mil in cap space . That could be 6 significant players plus maybe Boeser Demko or OJ .

A lot can happen in two years.

- VANTEL




2 trades:
Tanev/Markstrom for Duchesne/2018 2nd
Hansen maybe fetches 2 2nds from the Habs of their 5 in the next 2 drafts

2 Drafts:
2017 1st BPA
........3-2nds ours CBJ Habs pick D mostly...JB's time to shine
2018 1st BPA
........3-2nds Ours, Av's, Habs once again the JB show

Potential lineup:
Sven BO BB
JV Duchesne LE
Granlund Sutter UFA/prospect
Gaunce Labate Dorsett
Gaudette

Edler/Stecher
OJ/EG
Hutton/Tree
Brisebois

Miller
Demko
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
They have not played a very good game. OJ is never ever going to clear the front of the net. Better keep Gudbranson.
- manvanfan



I hope we do keep Gudbrandson and Tryamkin
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
I hope we do keep Gudbrandson and Tryamkin
- VANTEL

I think I found out why London sucks today. They don't have Robert Thomas, Alex Formenton, Max Jones, Cliff Pu, Sam Meltic, and Victor Mete not playing.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
2 trades:
Tanev/Markstrom for Duchesne/2018 2nd
Hansen maybe fetches 2 2nds from the Habs of their 5 in the next 2 drafts

2 Drafts:
2017 1st BPA
........3-2nds ours CBJ Habs pick D mostly...JB's time to shine
2018 1st BPA
........3-2nds Ours, Av's, Habs once again the JB show


Potential lineup:
Sven BO BB
JV Duchesne LE
Granlund Sutter UFA/prospect
Gaunce Labate Dorsett
Gaudette

Edler/Stecher
OJ/EG
Hutton/Tree
Brisebois

Miller
Demko

- Nighthawk



Sorry NH I don't see anyof that happening.

Avs are looking for a young Dman , Tanev is not young

Habs won't give 2 seconds for Hansen. One maybe not two.
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