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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I agree . The system gives fans hope longer in the year.
Last year I clearly wanted a last place finish for the Canucks. This year I was not on the tank wagon because
A ) The team still isn't ready to commit to full change
B ) There was no one on the draftlist that I thought was a game changer.
I think the top 5 are nice players in the Ehlers Tkachuck category and the rest of the top 20 are Boeser type players.
If there is a generational player available I am full in on it.
Leafs and Oilers this year are two teams making the biggest jumps . Neither team has deep mentorship and both are doing very good . Canucks need to learn from this and stop hanging on to the past. - VANTEL
C'mon McDavid & Matthews #1OA is the ONLY reasons.
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I would take three drafts where we drafted six players of the "ilk" of Ehlers and Tkachuk over one elite player. Hockey is a team sport and one guy doesn't/can't win it all for you. - LeftCoaster
If we land just outside of the playoffs. I think there is a coupe future NHLers around there. Popugyev or Rasmusen |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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I agree . The system gives fans hope longer in the year.
Last year I clearly wanted a last place finish for the Canucks. This year I was not on the tank wagon because
A ) The team still isn't ready to commit to full change
B ) There was no one on the draftlist that I thought was a game changer.
I think the top 5 are nice players in the Ehlers Tkachuck category and the rest of the top 20 are Boeser type players.
If there is a generational player available I am full in on it.
Leafs and Oilers this year are two teams making the biggest jumps . Neither team has deep mentorship and both are doing very good . Canucks need to learn from this and stop hanging on to the past. - VANTEL
...have sucked goat balls for years if not a decade or two. The Canucks have sucked for 3 or 4, so I'm not buying into your 'we have to be just like the Leafs & Oilers' mantra. I, also, really don't understand your blatant Sedin hate, so what, they are a bit slower and not producing at a level we became accustom to but perhaps looking at their whole length of service to this team might be warranted. Hating them because they are not top ten in the league on the second to last year of a well earned contract is petulant. Change is happening but apparently not over night like you want. Hopefully you make through next season without having aneurysm. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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If we land just outside of the playoffs. I think there is a coupe future NHLers around there. Popugyev or Rasmusen - thundachunk
Top ten picks, multiple, are important for the clubs future, if they choose wisely! There are NHL players outside the top ten, obviously, but luck comes into play in a much bigger way. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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When BB arrives & we trade 1 D things will be much rosier.
JV is seasoning. Marinating.
OJ a year later with others potentially making a push eg Gaudette.
Add in this draft & who knows if trades for more picks.
Add it all up with the players already here & its reason for optimism.
All this 4-5yr crap is fiction. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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When BB arrives & we trade 1 D things will be much rosier.
JV is seasoning. Marinating.
OJ a year later with others potentially making a push eg Gaudette.
Add in this draft & who knows if trades for more picks.
Add it all up with the players already here & its reason for optimism.
All this 4-5yr crap is fiction. - Nighthawk
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The team has so many holes in it your blind if you can't see it! It's going to be 4 or 5 more years before the team is even remotely competitive again.
Having excellent prospects doesn't mean you're going to be good immediately. The Coyotes have the best prospect pool in the league, and have for a couple years, they're still years away from being a good NHL team. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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The team has so many holes in it your blind if you can't see it! It's going to be 4 or 5 more years before the team is even remotely competitive again.
Having excellent prospects doesn't mean you're going to be good immediately. The Coyotes have the best prospect pool in the league, and have for a couple years, they're still years away from being a good NHL team. - LeftCoaster
Who are the Coyotes veterans? Hanzel? Doan? No wonder they suck. Everyone should think about that prior to endorsing a Leafs style rebuild. They got LUCKY with Mathews |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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The team has so many holes in it your blind if you can't see it! It's going to be 4 or 5 more years before the team is even remotely competitive again.
Having excellent prospects doesn't mean you're going to be good immediately. The Coyotes have the best prospect pool in the league, and have for a couple years, they're still years away from being a good NHL team. - LeftCoaster
Yotes have weak D & not many mentors |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Who are the Coyotes veterans? Hanzel? Doan? No wonder they suck. Everyone should think about that prior to endorsing a Leafs style rebuild. They got LUCKY with Mathews - CanuckDon
Be nowhere without Matthews.
Tanked & got lucky. No skill needed. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Who are the Coyotes veterans? Hanzel? Doan? No wonder they suck. Everyone should think about that prior to endorsing a Leafs style rebuild. They got LUCKY with Mathews - CanuckDon
Outside of Daniel and Henrik the Yotes forward vets are better than the Canucks, the point is they have a great prospect pool but still have several holes in their organization.
Just because we have two or three good prospects doesn't guarantee any type of success, there's a lot of work to be done post Sedin's. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Yotes have weak D & not many mentors - Nighthawk
You're missing the point entirely and deflecting the conversation. The Canucks future is not as rosey as you portray it to be.
IMO there's certainly four to five more years of "building" before the team is competitive.
If the Sedins didn't come back next year, the Canucks would 100% be at the bottom of the league for at least two years. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Outside of Daniel and Henrik the Yotes forward vets are better than the Canucks, the point is they have a great prospect pool but still have several holes in their organization.
Just because we have two or three good prospects doesn't guarantee any type of success, there's a lot of work to be done post Sedin's. - LeftCoaster
A floundering franchise like the Av's going nowhere fast.
Our vets r night n day better than the Coyotes. |
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You don't know that .
Teams like Habs Flyers CBJ have all come back down to earth. Canucks usually always play to the level of the opponents.
Don't get me wrong I am not saying this team is definitely going to make the playoffs nor am i saying we are a bottom 5 team . We have been a 500 team all year and I think we will maintain that pace.
I do welcome a high pick but I am not sure it will happen - VANTEL
You're covering so many bases I don't think you even know what you're saying....
Carolinas 28th and they're 21-20....
4 points separates 28th from 15th so you can be a 500 team and pick 3rd overall or be 1 game over 500 (ei. Calgary) and sneak into a playoff spot....
strange times we live in |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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You're covering so many bases I don't think you even know what you're saying....
Carolinas 28th and they're 21-20....
4 points separates 28th from 15th so you can be a 500 team and pick 3rd overall or be 1 game over 500 (ei. Calgary) and sneak into a playoff spot....
strange times we live in - Brooks_Light
Prolly comes down to goaltending & injuries for all bubble teams. |
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I would take three drafts where we drafted six players of the "ilk" of Ehlers and Tkachuk over one elite player. Hockey is a team sport and one guy doesn't/can't win it all for you. - LeftCoaster
I get what you are saying but the teams that are winning cups have/had the superstar on them |
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Prolly comes down to goaltending & injuries for all bubble teams. - Nighthawk
With the schedule the Nucks have at the end of the season, theres a very real chance they finish 28th - no ones catching the Avs and Yotes, they're way too good at sucking. |
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...have sucked goat balls for years if not a decade or two. The Canucks have sucked for 3 or 4, so I'm not buying into your 'we have to be just like the Leafs & Oilers' mantra. I, also, really don't understand your blatant Sedin hate, so what, they are a bit slower and not producing at a level we became accustom to but perhaps looking at their whole length of service to this team might be warranted. Hating them because they are not top ten in the league on the second to last year of a well earned contract is petulant. Change is happening but apparently not over night like you want. Hopefully you make through next season without having aneurysm. - Marwood
I don't hate the Sedins . I am saying the Canucks are in the middle with them. That is not hate. |
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You're missing the point entirely and deflecting the conversation. The Canucks future is not as rosey as you portray it to be.
IMO there's certainly four to five more years of "building" before the team is competitive.
If the Sedins didn't come back next year, the Canucks would 100% be at the bottom of the league for at least two years. - LeftCoaster
If everyone is wishing for the top 3 draft pick is that not the way to do it?
I am saying pick a side. If Canucks are going forward and letting players play out their contract like Tanev Edler Burrows Hansen Sutter and the twins then stop hoping for a bottom finish .
You can't have it both ways |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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With the schedule the Nucks have at the end of the season, theres a very real chance they finish 28th - no ones catching the Avs and Yotes, they're way too good at sucking. - Brooks_Light
Anything top five is a positive for the clubs future. Unless Benning picks Virtanen again |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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If everyone is wishing for the top 3 draft pick is that not the way to do it?
I am saying pick a side. If Canucks are going forward and letting players play out their contract like Tanev Edler Burrows Hansen Sutter and the twins then stop hoping for a bottom finish .
You can't have it both ways - VANTEL
I'm not sure what you're referring to but my response was to Hawk saying everything looks good in the next couple of years. I say complete BS! The Canucks need a lot more than what they've got in terms of prospects if they wanna win a Cup. |
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You're covering so many bases I don't think you even know what you're saying....
Carolinas 28th and they're 21-20....
4 points separates 28th from 15th so you can be a 500 team and pick 3rd overall or be 1 game over 500 (ei. Calgary) and sneak into a playoff spot....
strange times we live in - Brooks_Light
Of course I am covering so many bases. We are 4 points from the bottom and four points from the a playoff spot.
Do you know what moves we are making at TDL ? I haven't a clue what moves if any we will make.
I don't know how anyone can say we are going one way or the other? |
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I'm not sure what you're referring to but my response was to Hawk saying everything looks good in the next couple of years. I say complete BS! The Canucks need a lot more than what they've got in terms of prospects if they wanna win a Cup. - LeftCoaster
Sorry was not directed at you.
I am trying to point out one can't sit here and say you want a top 5 pick with this roster. It has too many vets who know just what to do to avoid being in the very bottom.
I think the Canucks will ride out the contracts . That is three years until Edler is gone and then you will see a change in the style of play. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Sorry was not directed at you.
I am trying to point out one can't sit here and say you want a top 5 pick with this roster. It has too many vets who know just what to do to avoid being in the very bottom.
I think the Canucks will ride out the contracts . That is three years until Edler is gone and then you will see a change in the style of play. - VANTEL
It's largely the same group that finished third last last year, so I'd have to disagree with you there. The season is 82 games, let's see where they fall at the conclusion of that. |
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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK Joined: 03.15.2014
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Be nowhere without Matthews.
Tanked & got lucky. No skill needed. - Nighthawk
Theyre also an Anderson injury away from being bottom 3, defence is pretty suspect |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I'm not sure what you're referring to but my response was to Hawk saying everything looks good in the next couple of years. I say complete BS! The Canucks need a lot more than what they've got in terms of prospects if they wanna win a Cup. - LeftCoaster
Yes we r trending to looking good in 2yrs.
Solid in goal & D adding parts along the way.
U leap all the way to winning a cup.
Gotta walk before running.
Many teams r loaded in prospects & r scaring nobody. |
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