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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
I agree . The system gives fans hope longer in the year.


Last year I clearly wanted a last place finish for the Canucks. This year I was not on the tank wagon because

A ) The team still isn't ready to commit to full change
B ) There was no one on the draftlist that I thought was a game changer.

I think the top 5 are nice players in the Ehlers Tkachuck category and the rest of the top 20 are Boeser type players.

If there is a generational player available I am full in on it.

Leafs and Oilers this year are two teams making the biggest jumps . Neither team has deep mentorship and both are doing very good . Canucks need to learn from this and stop hanging on to the past.

- VANTEL




C'mon McDavid & Matthews #1OA is the ONLY reasons.
How do u learn how to get 1OA?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
I would take three drafts where we drafted six players of the "ilk" of Ehlers and Tkachuk over one elite player. Hockey is a team sport and one guy doesn't/can't win it all for you.
- LeftCoaster

If we land just outside of the playoffs. I think there is a coupe future NHLers around there. Popugyev or Rasmusen
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
I agree . The system gives fans hope longer in the year.


Last year I clearly wanted a last place finish for the Canucks. This year I was not on the tank wagon because

A ) The team still isn't ready to commit to full change
B ) There was no one on the draftlist that I thought was a game changer.

I think the top 5 are nice players in the Ehlers Tkachuck category and the rest of the top 20 are Boeser type players.

If there is a generational player available I am full in on it.

Leafs and Oilers this year are two teams making the biggest jumps . Neither team has deep mentorship and both are doing very good . Canucks need to learn from this and stop hanging on to the past.

- VANTEL

...have sucked goat balls for years if not a decade or two. The Canucks have sucked for 3 or 4, so I'm not buying into your 'we have to be just like the Leafs & Oilers' mantra. I, also, really don't understand your blatant Sedin hate, so what, they are a bit slower and not producing at a level we became accustom to but perhaps looking at their whole length of service to this team might be warranted. Hating them because they are not top ten in the league on the second to last year of a well earned contract is petulant. Change is happening but apparently not over night like you want. Hopefully you make through next season without having aneurysm.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:06 PM ET
If we land just outside of the playoffs. I think there is a coupe future NHLers around there. Popugyev or Rasmusen
- thundachunk

Top ten picks, multiple, are important for the clubs future, if they choose wisely! There are NHL players outside the top ten, obviously, but luck comes into play in a much bigger way.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
When BB arrives & we trade 1 D things will be much rosier.
JV is seasoning. Marinating.
OJ a year later with others potentially making a push eg Gaudette.
Add in this draft & who knows if trades for more picks.

Add it all up with the players already here & its reason for optimism.
All this 4-5yr crap is fiction.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
When BB arrives & we trade 1 D things will be much rosier.
JV is seasoning. Marinating.
OJ a year later with others potentially making a push eg Gaudette.
Add in this draft & who knows if trades for more picks.

Add it all up with the players already here & its reason for optimism.
All this 4-5yr crap is fiction.

- Nighthawk

???

The team has so many holes in it your blind if you can't see it! It's going to be 4 or 5 more years before the team is even remotely competitive again.

Having excellent prospects doesn't mean you're going to be good immediately. The Coyotes have the best prospect pool in the league, and have for a couple years, they're still years away from being a good NHL team.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
???

The team has so many holes in it your blind if you can't see it! It's going to be 4 or 5 more years before the team is even remotely competitive again.

Having excellent prospects doesn't mean you're going to be good immediately. The Coyotes have the best prospect pool in the league, and have for a couple years, they're still years away from being a good NHL team.

- LeftCoaster


Who are the Coyotes veterans? Hanzel? Doan? No wonder they suck. Everyone should think about that prior to endorsing a Leafs style rebuild. They got LUCKY with Mathews
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
???

The team has so many holes in it your blind if you can't see it! It's going to be 4 or 5 more years before the team is even remotely competitive again.

Having excellent prospects doesn't mean you're going to be good immediately. The Coyotes have the best prospect pool in the league, and have for a couple years, they're still years away from being a good NHL team.

- LeftCoaster



Yotes have weak D & not many mentors
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
Who are the Coyotes veterans? Hanzel? Doan? No wonder they suck. Everyone should think about that prior to endorsing a Leafs style rebuild. They got LUCKY with Mathews
- CanuckDon


Be nowhere without Matthews.
Tanked & got lucky. No skill needed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
Who are the Coyotes veterans? Hanzel? Doan? No wonder they suck. Everyone should think about that prior to endorsing a Leafs style rebuild. They got LUCKY with Mathews
- CanuckDon

Outside of Daniel and Henrik the Yotes forward vets are better than the Canucks, the point is they have a great prospect pool but still have several holes in their organization.

Just because we have two or three good prospects doesn't guarantee any type of success, there's a lot of work to be done post Sedin's.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
Yotes have weak D & not many mentors
- Nighthawk

You're missing the point entirely and deflecting the conversation. The Canucks future is not as rosey as you portray it to be.

IMO there's certainly four to five more years of "building" before the team is competitive.

If the Sedins didn't come back next year, the Canucks would 100% be at the bottom of the league for at least two years.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
Outside of Daniel and Henrik the Yotes forward vets are better than the Canucks, the point is they have a great prospect pool but still have several holes in their organization.

Just because we have two or three good prospects doesn't guarantee any type of success, there's a lot of work to be done post Sedin's.

- LeftCoaster



A floundering franchise like the Av's going nowhere fast.

Our vets r night n day better than the Coyotes.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:32 PM ET
You don't know that .

Teams like Habs Flyers CBJ have all come back down to earth. Canucks usually always play to the level of the opponents.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying this team is definitely going to make the playoffs nor am i saying we are a bottom 5 team . We have been a 500 team all year and I think we will maintain that pace.

I do welcome a high pick but I am not sure it will happen

- VANTEL


You're covering so many bases I don't think you even know what you're saying....

Carolinas 28th and they're 21-20....

4 points separates 28th from 15th so you can be a 500 team and pick 3rd overall or be 1 game over 500 (ei. Calgary) and sneak into a playoff spot....

strange times we live in
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:33 PM ET
You're covering so many bases I don't think you even know what you're saying....

Carolinas 28th and they're 21-20....

4 points separates 28th from 15th so you can be a 500 team and pick 3rd overall or be 1 game over 500 (ei. Calgary) and sneak into a playoff spot....

strange times we live in

- Brooks_Light



Prolly comes down to goaltending & injuries for all bubble teams.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
I would take three drafts where we drafted six players of the "ilk" of Ehlers and Tkachuk over one elite player. Hockey is a team sport and one guy doesn't/can't win it all for you.
- LeftCoaster



I get what you are saying but the teams that are winning cups have/had the superstar on them
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:39 PM ET
Prolly comes down to goaltending & injuries for all bubble teams.
- Nighthawk


With the schedule the Nucks have at the end of the season, theres a very real chance they finish 28th - no ones catching the Avs and Yotes, they're way too good at sucking.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:40 PM ET
...have sucked goat balls for years if not a decade or two. The Canucks have sucked for 3 or 4, so I'm not buying into your 'we have to be just like the Leafs & Oilers' mantra. I, also, really don't understand your blatant Sedin hate, so what, they are a bit slower and not producing at a level we became accustom to but perhaps looking at their whole length of service to this team might be warranted. Hating them because they are not top ten in the league on the second to last year of a well earned contract is petulant. Change is happening but apparently not over night like you want. Hopefully you make through next season without having aneurysm.
- Marwood



I don't hate the Sedins . I am saying the Canucks are in the middle with them. That is not hate.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
You're missing the point entirely and deflecting the conversation. The Canucks future is not as rosey as you portray it to be.

IMO there's certainly four to five more years of "building" before the team is competitive.

If the Sedins didn't come back next year, the Canucks would 100% be at the bottom of the league for at least two years.

- LeftCoaster


If everyone is wishing for the top 3 draft pick is that not the way to do it?

I am saying pick a side. If Canucks are going forward and letting players play out their contract like Tanev Edler Burrows Hansen Sutter and the twins then stop hoping for a bottom finish .

You can't have it both ways
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
With the schedule the Nucks have at the end of the season, theres a very real chance they finish 28th - no ones catching the Avs and Yotes, they're way too good at sucking.
- Brooks_Light

Anything top five is a positive for the clubs future. Unless Benning picks Virtanen again
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
If everyone is wishing for the top 3 draft pick is that not the way to do it?

I am saying pick a side. If Canucks are going forward and letting players play out their contract like Tanev Edler Burrows Hansen Sutter and the twins then stop hoping for a bottom finish .

You can't have it both ways

- VANTEL

I'm not sure what you're referring to but my response was to Hawk saying everything looks good in the next couple of years. I say complete BS! The Canucks need a lot more than what they've got in terms of prospects if they wanna win a Cup.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
You're covering so many bases I don't think you even know what you're saying....

Carolinas 28th and they're 21-20....

4 points separates 28th from 15th so you can be a 500 team and pick 3rd overall or be 1 game over 500 (ei. Calgary) and sneak into a playoff spot....

strange times we live in

- Brooks_Light



Of course I am covering so many bases. We are 4 points from the bottom and four points from the a playoff spot.

Do you know what moves we are making at TDL ? I haven't a clue what moves if any we will make.

I don't know how anyone can say we are going one way or the other?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
I'm not sure what you're referring to but my response was to Hawk saying everything looks good in the next couple of years. I say complete BS! The Canucks need a lot more than what they've got in terms of prospects if they wanna win a Cup.
- LeftCoaster



Sorry was not directed at you.

I am trying to point out one can't sit here and say you want a top 5 pick with this roster. It has too many vets who know just what to do to avoid being in the very bottom.


I think the Canucks will ride out the contracts . That is three years until Edler is gone and then you will see a change in the style of play.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 28 @ 3:03 PM ET
Sorry was not directed at you.

I am trying to point out one can't sit here and say you want a top 5 pick with this roster. It has too many vets who know just what to do to avoid being in the very bottom.


I think the Canucks will ride out the contracts . That is three years until Edler is gone and then you will see a change in the style of play.

- VANTEL

It's largely the same group that finished third last last year, so I'd have to disagree with you there. The season is 82 games, let's see where they fall at the conclusion of that.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jan 28 @ 3:03 PM ET
Be nowhere without Matthews.
Tanked & got lucky. No skill needed.

- Nighthawk

Theyre also an Anderson injury away from being bottom 3, defence is pretty suspect
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'm not sure what you're referring to but my response was to Hawk saying everything looks good in the next couple of years. I say complete BS! The Canucks need a lot more than what they've got in terms of prospects if they wanna win a Cup.
- LeftCoaster



Yes we r trending to looking good in 2yrs.
Solid in goal & D adding parts along the way.
U leap all the way to winning a cup.
Gotta walk before running.
Many teams r loaded in prospects & r scaring nobody.
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