I think we need
- YuenglingJagr[big name I've heard of but rarely seen play] to help us do all the [things I really have no idea if he is good at]

He also has the luxury of having the highest on-ice save percentage.
- JFlyers00

Fair point. I better the increase the sample size to the past three seasons and only look at guys who have played multiple seasons for the Flyers since SV% can be volatile in small samples.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...oals&sort=A60&sortdir=ASC

His careless turnover led (eventually) to the 3rd goal.

But McDonald has already missed 8 games this season and 54 last season. Nobody was happy with the defense during those times, either.
- Feanor

I'm not happy with anyone not named Provorov, Gudas or Ghost this year on the blue line. Ghost even has me grumbling at times. I'm also sick of lazy forwards not back checking. This team leads the league in High Difficulty Chances Against. That should tell you something.

To add to this, adjusting using the league average save percentage, his GA per 60 dips to #6 among defensemen on the team.
- JFlyers00

league average save percentage would be higher if they gave up as many shots as he did

- Feanor

regressing to the mean.

I saw someone post about the Flyers 10 game win streak being an anomaly so I decided to look at what the Flyers would be like if it never happened...

If you change the Flyers 10 game win streak to fit the way the season has gone to date outside of that stretch, the Flyers would have 36 points.

In the 33 games outside of the stretch they go 11-16-6 or .84 points per game. Only 2 teams are worse.. Coyotes and Avalanche.

Thats pretty freaking bad.

I saw someone post about the Flyers 10 game win streak being an anomaly so I decided to look at what the Flyers would be like if it never happened...

If you change the Flyers 10 game win streak to fit the way the season has gone to date outside of that stretch, the Flyers would have 36 points.

In the 33 games outside of the stretch they go 11-16-6 or .84 points per game. Only 2 teams are worse.. Coyotes and Avalanche.

Thats pretty freaking bad.
- jak521

Sounds like those 20 points were the most important 20 points of the season

But I do think there are some things that could be done to maybe reshape the roster to help now and the future. I know you disagree with me there and that's fine. I am not against a big move of maybe moving Giroux if I can get back a young promising player who is on the brink of breaking out. I thought what the Rangers did was very solid in getting Zibanejad was very good in the now and future.
- J35Bacher

Why would a team trade a young player on the brink of breaking out for an $8M center on the brink of ending his prime?

Why would Giroux waive his NTC?

I'm not happy with anyone not named Provorov, Gudas or Ghost this year on the blue line. Ghost even has me grumbling at times. I'm also sick of lazy forwards not back checking. This team leads the league in High Difficulty Chances Against. That should tell you something.
- dragonoffrost

The Kane goal really bothered me. Giroux was lazy on that play. The Captain needs to hunker down and close out that period only down 2-0 at worst.

The rest of group was not good either.

They will go on another "run" after the All-Star break. That's kinda there thing.

His careless turnover led (eventually) to the 3rd goal.

But McDonald has already missed 8 games this season and 54 last season. Nobody was happy with the defense during those times, either.
- Feanor

MacDonald did turn the puck over earlier in the shift. Simmonds had clear control of the puck on the Kane goal, and turned it over at the blueline, leading to the counter attack. The captain, Claude Giroux, glided while Kane skated by and Giroux weakly waved his stick at him.

I saw someone post about the Flyers 10 game win streak being an anomaly so I decided to look at what the Flyers would be like if it never happened...

If you change the Flyers 10 game win streak to fit the way the season has gone to date outside of that stretch, the Flyers would have 36 points.

In the 33 games outside of the stretch they go 11-16-6 or .84 points per game. Only 2 teams are worse.. Coyotes and Avalanche.

Thats pretty freaking bad.
- jak521

But that's not what happened.... They won 10 games in a row.

The Flyers are a very polarizing team, they have some games like last night where they are not clicking for whatever reason, and they don't play as well as we know they can. They also have games/streches where they play very well, gaps are tightened, passes are more accurate, the neutral zone is actually defended well. Mistakes are minimized etc.

This has been the flyers for a long time, and it's not going to change until the personnel changes in key positions.

I just hate this roster construction.

It was kind of why I preferred moving Schenn instead of signing him. I feel there are too many redundant players just at different levels of skill. I feel like Schenn, Couturier, Read, Raffl, Weise, Bellemare, Lyubimov and Vandevelde are all basically the same player just at different levels of skill.
- J35Bacher

They have to continue to draft and develop players to improve the roster. If a trade that makes sense presents itself, then make it, otherwise stay on course.

I just hate this roster construction.

It was kind of why I preferred moving Schenn instead of signing him. I feel there are too many redundant players just at different levels of skill. I feel like Schenn, Couturier, Read, Raffl, Weise, Bellemare, Lyubimov and Vandevelde are all basically the same player just at different levels of skill.
- J35Bacher

Why would a team trade a young player on the brink of breaking out for an $8M center on the brink of ending his prime?

Why would Giroux waive his NTC?
- PhillySportsGuy

A team close to the playoffs who think they are player away could. Hartnell waived to go to Columbus so a player waiving his NTC/NMC is not something new.

But that's not what happened.... They won 10 games in a row.

The Flyers are a very polarizing team, they have some games like last night where they are not clicking for whatever reason, and they don't play as well as we know they can. They also have games/streches where they play very well, gaps are tightened, passes are more accurate, the neutral zone is actually defended well. Mistakes are minimized etc.

This has been the flyers for a long time, and it's not going to change until the personnel changes in key positions.
- VladDrag

My point is that, while they are bound to go on streaks (good or bad) 33 games is a bigger sample size than 10. They did win 10 straight games (despite playing well or not so well in some of those games). Now they are losing (despite playing well or not so well).

However, nearly half a season (33 games) had them at 28 points. That is down right awful. We are currently in the 8th spot for the playoffs, however Vegas has us at only 20% to make the playoffs. Its not looking good, and there dont seem to be any significant ways to change things barring a big move.

another 10 game win streak and everything will be okay
- YuenglingJagr

Yep, nothing like a dose of unrealism to calm the masses

My point is that, while they are bound to go on streaks (good or bad) 33 games is a bigger sample size than 10. They did win 10 straight games (despite playing well or not so well in some of those games). Now they are losing (despite playing well or not so well).

However, nearly half a season (33 games) had them at 28 points. That is down right awful. We are currently in the 8th spot for the playoffs, however Vegas has us at only 20% to make the playoffs. Its not looking good, and there dont seem to be any significant ways to change things barring a big move.
- jak521

With the make up of this team and given what they did last year, isn't this exactly what we should have expected?

But that's not what happened.... They won 10 games in a row.

The Flyers are a very polarizing team, they have some games like last night where they are not clicking for whatever reason, and they don't play as well as we know they can. They also have games/streches where they play very well, gaps are tightened, passes are more accurate, the neutral zone is actually defended well. Mistakes are minimized etc.

This has been the flyers for a long time, and it's not going to change until the personnel changes in key positions.
- VladDrag

I think you mean bi-polar

With the make up of this team and given what they did last year, isn't this exactly what we should have expected?
- johndewar

yes

They have to continue to draft and develop players to improve the roster. If a trade that makes sense presents itself, then make it, otherwise stay on course.
- MJL

That's a good idea but you eventually need to draft a guy who can really impact the team. They have some great defensive prospects but in regards to forwards they don't seem to be able to draft that forward type as they keep drafting near the middle to back end of the draft.

It's just my thoughts.

My point is that, while they are bound to go on streaks (good or bad) 33 games is a bigger sample size than 10. They did win 10 straight games (despite playing well or not so well in some of those games). Now they are losing (despite playing well or not so well).

However, nearly half a season (33 games) had them at 28 points. That is down right awful. We are currently in the 8th spot for the playoffs, however Vegas has us at only 20% to make the playoffs. Its not looking good, and there dont seem to be any significant ways to change things barring a big move.
- jak521

During the 10 game win streak, it was a fine line between winning and losing. They won a lot of close games if I remember correctly. They were never dominant in my opinion. Compare the goal differential to a team such as Columbus. Not to mention the GAA per game.

The Kane goal really bothered me. Giroux was lazy on that play. The Captain needs to hunker down and close out that period only down 2-0 at worst.

The rest of group was not good either.

They will go on another "run" after the All-Star break. That's kinda there thing.
- mickel25

This team for years has had the poor beginning to the season. Then went on a run. Fell apart around Christmas. Then another late season run. Everyone blamed Lavy, then Berube and now some are blaming Hakstol. If it lasts for 3 coaches more than likely not the coaching fault. Now we need to look where there is a common thread during those years. Yep my finger is pointed directly at G, Jake, Streit who were the people wearing letters on their sweaters for most of that time. They need to step up their games and hold others accoutable. Jake has been better this year himself and Streit being hurt didn't help him.

9 losses in 11 games. Impressive.

Averaging 1.8 goals per game over the last 13 games.
- PLindbergh31

Offense is not an issue

That's a good idea but you eventually need to draft a guy who can really impact the team. They have some great defensive prospects but in regards to forwards they don't seem to be able to draft that forward type as they keep drafting near the middle to back end of the draft.

It's just my thoughts.
- J35Bacher

It's a process. A player like Konecny may make that impact in a year or two. Things can change quickly.

Even after last night's bad game, MacDonald is still the Flyers defenseman giving up the fewest goals at 5 on 5.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...oals&sort=A60&sortdir=ASC

You can waive him, trade him, or fire him into the sun... but the team's defensive issues aren't going to change much this season when every other dman is conceding goals at a higher rate.
- Feanor

Kinda surprising Ghost is last in GF60.