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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
Up to the neutral zone in the air. I'm not NHL defenseman, but even with a forechecker, I can probably do this competently, maybe 3/10 times.

Even if he fails, the option he chose was the worst of the possible choices.

- jmatchett383


Alright keep believing that. I guess all icings and delay of game penalties are completely unavoidable with this simple safe play available.

I do not endorse the play he made. It was reckless. I'm just saying he's not alone in what lead to a terrible sequence of events.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
Plus most players get a bye week for the AS break anyway.
And why have a bye week when the schedule is already compressed due to the WCoH?

- Scoob

sure...scapegoat the WCoH
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
Plus most players get a bye week for the AS break anyway.
And why have a bye week when the schedule is already compressed due to the WCoH?

- Scoob



all of this
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
There are 4 Sabres in the lane he needs to send that through and one directly behind him creating pressure. Everyone is acting like the sky high dump out of the zone is some easy play that can be made under pressure. It's not, that's why a lot of delay of game penalties happen.
- Baxter27

It's easy if you're good
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
Plus most players get a bye week for the AS break anyway.
And why have a bye week when the schedule is already compressed due to the WCoH?

- Scoob


Didn't they say on the broadcast the NHLPA asked for it due to the WCOH participation? If I'm a player I'd want the week off too and deal with the compressed schedule.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 4:42 PM ET
I am a mens league d-man
- jak521


same
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
Alright keep believing that. I guess all icings and delay of game penalties are completely unavoidable with this simple safe play available.

I do not endorse the play he made. It was reckless. I'm just saying he's not alone in what lead to a terrible sequence of events.

- Baxter27


Then ice it. Fire it down the ice if you have no better options. But one of the first things I learned when I played roller hockey as a 10-year-old was that you never throw the puck in the middle of your own zone unless you're 100% sure. I guess they didn't teach that to AMac at any point during his career.

Again, I don't think the play was as egregious and terrible as people say. And I don't think he's the worst player in the NHL. But on this particular play, he made the worst choice presented to him, and I think that has to do with his ability to make quick decisions at the NHL level. That is why I don't want him getting the minute she gets.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
Didn't they say on the broadcast the NHLPA asked for it due to the WCOH participation? If I'm a player I'd want the week off too and deal with the compressed schedule.
- Just5


Makes sense...compress the schedule for the WCoH....then compress it again for the AS game....then compress it again for a week off.

Two Fonzie thumbs up!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
Alright keep believing that. I guess all icings and delay of game penalties are completely unavoidable with this simple safe play available.

I do not endorse the play he made. It was reckless. I'm just saying he's not alone in what lead to a terrible sequence of events.

- Baxter27



and as I said I don't believe people are blaming him completely. What irked people was his statement after the game which pretty much made it seem like he didn't acknowledge his play that started the whole thing
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
If my choices are Mason or Neuvy I am going with Mason. I just am not sold on Neuvy holding up. I feel good about Stolie being the backup.
- nastyflyergirl


I think if Nuevirth played 60 games he would spontaneously combust.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
I want to see more Stolarz on the Flyers this year. We talk about bringing kids like Morin, Sanheim, etc. up. But they have a prospect that is ready to see NHL ice right now and it's Stolarz. He'll be 23 in a week. I want him to get 15 -20 games in but its not going to happen. Need to find out more about him. Mason is going to get a long term contract with serious money and while I like him, I don't know if that's the right move for the Flyers. Time to take the diapers off hopefully Neuvirth gets moved if he can get some games in and show his worth
- Just5


Stolarz has looked very good when he's been in the net.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 4:49 PM ET
and as I said I don't believe people are blaming him completely. What irked people was his statement after the game which pretty much made it seem like he didn't acknowledge his play that started the whole thing
- nastyflyergirl


I blame BiggE.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 11 @ 4:49 PM ET
Then ice it. Fire it down the ice if you have no better options. But one of the first things I learned when I played roller hockey as a 10-year-old was that you never throw the puck in the middle of your own zone unless you're 100% sure. I guess they didn't teach that to AMac at any point during his career.
- jmatchett383


Icing the puck late in the period. I'm sure he wouldn't have been scrutinized for that.

I was taught the same thing, I agree with you. But plays are made out of desperation at speeds we can't even imagine. If that pass make's it to Simmonds who is off to the races, everyone loves it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:51 PM ET
Makes sense...compress the schedule for the WCoH....then compress it again for the AS game....then compress it again for a week off.

Two Fonzie thumbs up!

- Scoob


For the players...82 games is 82 games. Still the same amount they have to play. Would they go for having extra days off on long road trips or shorten everything up and be guaranteed a week off during the season to have on their own. Choice would be easy for me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 4:51 PM ET
Icing the puck late in the period. I'm sure he wouldn't have been scrutinized for that.

I was taught the same thing, I agree with you. But plays are made out of desperation at speeds we can't even imagine. If that pass make's it to Simmonds who is off to the races, everyone loves it.

- Baxter27


Yes, he would have been. But I'd rather him ice it than to hastily throw it to the middle. Hell, even if he (frank)s up a chip and it becomes a penalty, that happens, and it's just an error in execution. It's an example of the type of bad decisions that he makes when under pressure why I don't want him given the minutes he's given. If he's playing bottom-pair minutes against lower competition, I'm fine with him.

And yes, in the 1 out of 50 times that pass succeeds if it's (frank)ing Wayne Gretzky passing it, it's a great play.

Edit: Your avatar rocks. Fav. episode.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
and as I said I don't believe people are blaming him completely. What irked people was his statement after the game which pretty much made it seem like he didn't acknowledge his play that started the whole thing
- nastyflyergirl


Agreed he should acknowledge a terrible turnover.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 5:08 PM ET
For the players...82 games is 82 games. Still the same amount they have to play. Would they go for having extra days off on long road trips or shorten everything up and be guaranteed a week off during the season to have on their own. Choice would be easy for me.
- Just5


Or...stop with all the in-season interruptions and simply schedule appropriately
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
Everything is litrilly turrible.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
Everything is litrilly turrible.
- Pixote Andolini

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 11 @ 5:22 PM ET
last time we won a game was with neuvirth in net
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 5:41 PM ET
So they made it to the Stanley Cup Finals both years? Sweet, I hope that happens on the 60th.
- jmatchett383

Hakstol still on board and Amac is assistant GM
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 5:43 PM ET
last time we won a game was with neuvirth in net
- 2Real

But Mason plays so bad when he have to be the second banana
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 5:47 PM ET
he almost turns it over twice in a row there. First on that god awful pass to whoever. Next on what should have been a fairly simple d-to-d pass to Provy behind the net that he smashed up the boards. He was just very very bad last night. How he lets that man behind him like that on the PK EVERYTIME drives me nuts.
- jak521


It was a simple d to d pass and he made it. Provorov either missed it, or it jumped over his stick. The Sabres isolated a mini 2 on 1 down low. Difficult for one defenseman to cover two players.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
Anyone finally done with 47 yet?
- hammarby31


The Flyers aren't
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 5:51 PM ET
The Flyers aren't
- ob18

Could he be snapped up in the expansion draft
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