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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 10 @ 12:45 AM ET
He's got be in shape now. So, whatever his stumble and who's to blame it begs a question. Would you take JV in this line up now over Skille, Chaput, Megna, Guance and Burrows? At the start of the season we would say yes. Even after what we have seen so far I would still say yes.

For me, I would rather see him playing with Sedins, Bo or Sutter over any of them. Add in Rodin and Boucher too while at it. Keep Burr and Guance/Skille rotating in. That would be the best forward line up I can see Canucks having now.

- Nuck4U


Virtanen stopped playing physical so no...he wouldn't help the team at the moment. If he could hit and score a few goals he would be useful but he doesn't hit anymore.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 10 @ 12:48 AM ET
LAK/Stars 4-4...what crap goaltending lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 10 @ 12:51 AM ET
What does that have to do with your original comment on squeaking into the playoffs and winning a Cup? Facts are you don't win 99.9% of the time unless you had a very good regular season.

Rarely? Almost 40% of PT winners make the finals and 26% of them win the Cup....that's not rarely in my books.

"Of the 30 recipients through 2016, eleven (38%) qualified for the Final and eight (26%) won the Stanley Cup"

- LeftCoaster



I said squeak in have a chance.
U added WINNING a CUP.

Facts r 15/16 teams come up short.
Goal is the 1st reason..without it its hopeless.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 10 @ 12:51 AM ET
5-4 in a horrible game lol
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 10 @ 12:52 AM ET
Wow watching Stars v Kings Dallas has real bad tending and suspect D.

Explains bubble status but not why they don't make a deal. Miller and Sbisa would be a huge improvement for them. Prospects and draft picks work coming back.

Also, hate to see both teams get a point on WC race
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 10 @ 12:54 AM ET
Wow watching Stars v Kings Dallas has real bad tending and suspect D.

Explains bubble status but not why they don't make a deal. Miller and Sbisa would be a huge improvement for them. Prospects and draft picks work coming back.

Also, hate to see both teams get a point on WC race

- Nuck4U


Nobody will take the Stars trash in goal.
LAK up against the cap & Quick makes them tick.
Without them just another team looking to squeak in.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 10 @ 12:57 AM ET


Or maybe he's just not ready yet and was rushed in or maybe just not as good of a player as JB thought.

I could of sworn you had McCann penciled in as #1C not that long ago...Not trying to be a huge Richard but my point being we don't know what these kids are yet or what they will be in the future.

Other than Horvat they are all still mysteries IMO.

- belcherbd


The only person I can remember who said that on occasion was bieksa03. There were others who had their fingers crossed that he would exceed expectations.

I watched him tonight. He doesn't look like he's improved this season. He did draw a couple of penalties... He was sloppy with the puck and really weak on the boards. That doesn't pass here with WD. The Canucks win most of their puck battles. It's impressive really. Tonight, McCann looked like it wasn't part of his job description.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 10 @ 12:58 AM ET
Virtanen stopped playing physical so no...he wouldn't help the team at the moment. If he could hit and score a few goals he would be useful but he doesn't hit anymore.
- CanuckDon



He can hit. I think he's doing more of that with Comets. Combination of shoulder injury, fitness and thinking he needed to just score took him away from that on many a night while he was here. But still don't see how the suspect 5 I mentioned are better then him now.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 10 @ 12:59 AM ET
sounds like a crappy magician's name
- SMBDragon


A French juggler.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:13 AM ET
Stars 6-4
Niemi gets the win in relief
Sad
Sad
Sad
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 10 @ 1:32 AM ET
Stars 6-4
Niemi gets the win in relief
Sad
Sad
Sad

- Nighthawk


Yes, but now that means if Canucks can beat Preds they can move into WC over Kings and one point back of Flames with same games. Big ask with depleted D but bubble life demands it

Guess we'll find out tomorrow if Tanev can go. Hutton is out. Pedan now up for insurance. What's the betting if Rodin and/or Boucher get a crack?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:41 AM ET
Back to my theory a team needs a bot goalie to lift the mug.
Yes higher ranked teams win more cups.
Simply put they get hot goalies & their stars show up.
Explains why teams rank high to begin with. Thats no secret.
Still if any key injuries they win nothing.

Now on to the anomaly...
Patty Roy sucked against us but Sakic beat us.
Somehow in the end Patty gets the Conn Smythe.
BS of all time IMO
I blame the eastern media as a whole on their ignorance.
I'm sure i'll get no argument on that 😂😂
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:01 AM ET




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBadAVsdixk



storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:13 AM ET
I liked the "rumor" Vantel posted a twitter about of Nylander + pick for Tanev.
- Retinalz


NO
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 10 @ 4:36 AM ET


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBadAVsdixk




- Marwood



Saw him at the Hard Rock in Vegas 2003.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 10 @ 7:53 AM ET
They are right up against the cap with a stack of prospects, they will need to make room for ELC.

I don't think it will take a lot to get him. He didn't have a good yr last yr and it's not like he's having a great yr this yr......kind of like Bennet.

- Kaynine


I wouldn't trade Bennett for that and Tyler Johnson is better than him
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 10 @ 8:22 AM ET
I said squeak in have a chance.
U added WINNING a CUP.

Facts r 15/16 teams come up short.
Goal is the 1st reason..without it its hopeless.

- Nighthawk


A hot goalie and health only get you so far if you a team who barely squeaks in ...depth is also important as it helps with injuries along with any struggles along the way
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 10 @ 9:47 AM ET
Yes, and he showed inmrovenent throughout the season. He was training under the Sedins all summer so perhaps they are at fault? Inadequate mentors. The only thing we can all agree on is that Jake is in no way at fault for his regression
- CanuckDon


You show up at camp overweight like that? Regardless of how he finished last season he didn't take his off season development seriously. So yes it's his fault. He needs to get his body and mind into NHL shape, if that's at all possible. And learn some humility. Train with the Sedins? doing what, eating Hot Dogs?

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 10 @ 10:36 AM ET
You show up at camp overweight like that? Regardless of how he finished last season he didn't take his off season development seriously. So yes it's his fault. He needs to get his body and mind into NHL shape, if that's at all possible. And learn some humility. Train with the Sedins? doing what, eating Hot Dogs?


- VanHockeyGuy


Sarcasm
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
Sarcasm
- CanuckDon


Demko has 6 less points than JV in 3 less AHL games, I think he need the call up soon
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jan 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
You show up at camp overweight like that? Regardless of how he finished last season he didn't take his off season development seriously. So yes it's his fault. He needs to get his body and mind into NHL shape, if that's at all possible. And learn some humility. Train with the Sedins? doing what, eating Hot Dogs?


- VanHockeyGuy


Hot Dog Horvats
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
EK is saying Kane to Calgary, that will make the division interesting.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 10 @ 11:15 AM ET
Sarcasm
- CanuckDon


All these other AHL players get called up except JV why?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:17 AM ET
Essentially losing Sbisa or Dorsett would be nice strictly for cap reasons. Sbisa has been playing some decent hockey lately so it would be much harder to lose him. Losing Granlund would be a loss, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over losing Gaunce.
-Codes1087


i've been noticing that a lot of the Sbisa hate has died down and no one complains about trading shink...

maybe, just maybe... trader JB isn't as bad as everyone was making him out to be... did well with Baertschi, Granlund, and Sbisa... not to mention Guddy
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
You show up at camp overweight like that? Regardless of how he finished last season he didn't take his off season development seriously. So yes it's his fault. He needs to get his body and mind into NHL shape, if that's at all possible. And learn some humility. Train with the Sedins? doing what, eating Hot Dogs?


- VanHockeyGuy

this guy needs to clue in... hopefully coach Green can wake him up...
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