As do I. Like I've said here countless times, It is very strange to me that before the season Ledecky was giving the rah rah talk to whoever would listen. Then they started losing and he quit talking. All of a sudden they string together a few games where they got points and he's busting out on twitter. Once they go back to the way they were playing he disappears again. That's what I don't like. If you're going to blow sunshine up our asses, then don't go away when it's not going right. Make some form of state of the team address, or state that you're not pleased with the direction and do something. Honestly, I'd rather he hadn't said anything at all and just make corrective moves when the season is over.
- Isleshockeyman

I think Ledecky has not handled things well this season. I've said many times I would not want to start my first year as an owner like this. He should have at least pressured Garth to fire Cappy during the early season struggles. Letting the season fall apart without any moves cannot happen when you are coming off the first playoff win in 23 years. Some bold type of moves were needed from Ledecky. He needed to show this is not Wang's Isles anymore. He better get this offseason right.

I think Ledecky has not handled things well this season. I've said many times I would not want to start my first year as an owner like this. He should have at least pressured Garth to fire Cappy during the early season struggles. Letting the season fall apart without any moves cannot happen when you are coming off the first playoff win in 23 years. Some bold type of moves were needed from Ledecky. He better get this offseason right.
- ses111

That's what I was saying in early October, fire Crappy and make Weight the interim. I also did say to get rid of Snow and make Lou's kid the interim GM. Of course I got blasted by a few people here, but, such is life in the Isles thread. There is absolutely no reason that Ernie should still be coaching right now. As the new owners, if you're going to make statements about accountability and then let this moron still coach, then you're 100% culpable for how this season has played out. I can wrap my head around letting Snow finish out the season in the GM chair, but for Crappy to still be a part of the organization is unfathomable.

That's what I was saying in early October, fire Crappy and make Weight the interim. I also did say to get rid of Snow and make Lou's kid the interim GM. Of course I got blasted by a few people here, but, such is life in the Isles thread. There is absolutely no reason that Ernie should still be coaching right now. As the new owners, if you're going to make statements about accountability and then let this moron still coach, then you're 100% culpable for how this season has played out. I can wrap my head around letting Snow finish out the season in the GM chair, but for Crappy to still be a part of the organization is unfathomable.
- Isleshockeyman

I said the same thing about Weight and Lou's kid. It could not be worse than Garth and Cappy. Lou's kid does have some experience and it's not his 1st year in hockey. Maybe Lou's kid shows something and the new president can work with him? Doing nothing this year and keeping Garth and Cappy in charge is not the right thing to do. L&M needed a better first impression.

I said the same thing about Weight and Lou's kid. It could not be worse than Garth and Cappy. Lou's kid does have some experience and it's not his 1st year in hockey. Maybe Lou's kid shows something and the new president can work with him? Doing nothing this year and keeping Garth and Cappy in charge is not the right thing to do. L&M needed a better first impression.
- ses111

I wouldn't give Lou's give kid free reign to do what he wanted, but maybe some minor moves. I'd definitely let him fire Crappy though.

I said the same thing about Weight and Lou's kid. It could not be worse than Garth and Cappy. Lou's kid does have some experience and it's not his 1st year in hockey. Maybe Lou's kid shows something and the new president can work with him? Doing nothing this year and keeping Garth and Cappy in charge is not the right thing to do. L&M needed a better first impression.
- ses111

And what will be really scary is having Snow handle the trade deadline coming up.

loved pierre, great player.

Nice catch for an interview Dan

My favorite line in the interview:

Pierre: the team we had was just amazing. On paper, we weren’t suppose to do what we did against Pittsburgh. We moved on to face Montreal (Canadiens) in the conference finals. I think the biggest reason was Al. He was able to put the puzzle together and believed in us even if we did not have the team to do what we did on paper. I loved playing for him. It’s where I learned the most when I was younger.

In my mind the exact opposite of Crappy.

I wouldn't give Lou's give kid free reign to do what he wanted, but maybe some minor moves. I'd definitely let him fire Crappy though.
- Isleshockeyman

I agree. I would not let him trade all the prospects just to try to make the playoffs and I doubt he would even do that.

loved pierre, great player.

Nice catch for an interview Dan

My favorite line in the interview:

Pierre: the team we had was just amazing. On paper, we weren’t suppose to do what we did against Pittsburgh. We moved on to face Montreal (Canadiens) in the conference finals. I think the biggest reason was Al. He was able to put the puzzle together and believed in us even if we did not have the team to do what we did on paper. I loved playing for him. It’s where I learned the most when I was younger.
- nyisles7

I liked the comments about Al as well 7. Just goes to show coaching matters. That Isles team did not have Cup type talent, but that had a great coach.

And what will be really scary is having Snow handle the trade deadline coming up.
- roadworker

Very scary. I would take my changes with Lou's kid over Garth handling the trade deadline.

I liked the comments about Al as well 7. Just goes to show coaching matters. That Isles team did not have Cup type talent, but that had a great coach.
- ses111

Agreed Ses. Where were the super stars on that team?
Al was unbelievable in evaluating talent and coaching a team to their strength.

loved pierre, great player.

Nice catch for an interview Dan

My favorite line in the interview:

Pierre: the team we had was just amazing. On paper, we weren’t suppose to do what we did against Pittsburgh. We moved on to face Montreal (Canadiens) in the conference finals. I think the biggest reason was Al. He was able to put the puzzle together and believed in us even if we did not have the team to do what we did on paper. I loved playing for him. It’s where I learned the most when I was younger.

In my mind the exact opposite of Crappy.
- nyisles7

100% agree. Al would knock the crap out of Snow in his day.

And what will be really scary is having Snow handle the trade deadline coming up.
- roadworker

Definitely a scary thought. If he thinks his job is gone at the end of the season does he trade everything away to try to save the season and make the playoffs? Trade everything as a sabotage? Scary thought.

Agreed Ses. Where were the super stars on that team?
Al was unbelievable in evaluating talent and coaching a team to their strength.
- nyisles7

It's valid this current Isles team needs more talent, but to me coaching is the biggest issue. We had someone with talent in Barzal and Cappy put him in the pressbox and he is doing the same with Beau.

Definitely a scary thought. If he thinks his job is gone at the end of the season does he trade everything away to try to save the season and make the playoffs? Trade everything as a sabotage? Scary thought.
- Isleshockeyman

This season is already toast. Too late for Garth to start making trades now even if other teams were looking to deal.

And what will be really scary is having Snow handle the trade deadline coming up.
- roadworker

I give L&M a pass for not firing Garth and Cappy in July. The timing was bad to make moves in July. Now L&M have no excuse not to make moves and I have to think a new president before they even take the job will want to know if they have the power to make changes as they see fit.
- ses111

Why would they fire them? Coming off back to back playoffs and the first playoff round win in 23 years things were trending up and then they opened their wallets and we're blindsided by pure stupidity. Probably thought they had a legit shot at Stamkos

Why would they fire them? Coming off back to back playoffs and the first playoff round win in 23 years things were trending up and then they opened their wallets and we're blindsided by pure stupidity. Probably thought they had a legit shot at Stamkos
- Upstate_isles

There was no reason to fire them and especially not in July with FA starting. You get the sense Garth really did waste time with this Stamkos fantasy. Stamkos has had a lot of success in Tampa and his parents just got a place there. He was not going to leave to go play for the Islanders.

Why would they fire them? Coming off back to back playoffs and the first playoff round win in 23 years things were trending up and then they opened their wallets and we're blindsided by pure stupidity. Probably thought they had a legit shot at Stamkos
- Upstate_isles

He's talking about canning Bert & Ernie now, not back then. I'd be willing to bet 7's left nut that Snow thought he had at least a 95% chance at getting Stamkos. That's why he didn't try to retain KO and he figured that Frans was an automatic re-sign so no need in persuing him. Then he tried a last ditch blowj, I mean effort at Frans and he, rightfully, told Snow to fvck off.

loved pierre, great player.

Nice catch for an interview Dan

My favorite line in the interview:

Pierre: the team we had was just amazing. On paper, we weren’t suppose to do what we did against Pittsburgh. We moved on to face Montreal (Canadiens) in the conference finals. I think the biggest reason was Al. He was able to put the puzzle together and believed in us even if we did not have the team to do what we did on paper. I loved playing for him. It’s where I learned the most when I was younger.

In my mind the exact opposite of Crappy.
- nyisles7

In your mind and everyone else's you can't even put those two in the same sentence

He's talking about canning Bert & Ernie now, not back then. I'd be willing to bet 7's left nut that Snow thought he had at least a 95% chance at getting Stamkos. That's why he didn't try to retain KO and he figured that Frans was an automatic re-sign so no need in persuing him. Then he tried a last ditch blowj, I mean effort at Frans and he, rightfully, told Snow to fvck off.
- Isleshockeyman

Well I thought Dan said all decisions have to go through them now could be wrong but the guys they want are not coming to off season however this is very scary for trade deadline

He's talking about canning Bert & Ernie now, not back then. I'd be willing to bet 7's left nut that Snow thought he had at least a 95% chance at getting Stamkos. That's why he didn't try to retain KO and he figured that Frans was an automatic re-sign so no need in persuing him. Then he tried a last ditch blowj, I mean effort at Frans and he, rightfully, told Snow to fvck off.
- Isleshockeyman

Right. Firing them after the lousy start to the season and not in July. FA was starting and there was no time to bring someone else in. I do think L&M should have had a president in place in July though. I think Garth never thought Frans would leave and he did seem like someone who wanted to be a lifelong Islander.

Well I thought Dan said all decisions have to go through them now could be wrong but the guys they want are not coming to off season however this is very scary for trade deadline
- Upstate_isles

It is indeed, Upstate. I do remember hearing something about needing owners approval for trades. Hope that's true. Hope Snow doesn't get a chance to (frank) things up more than he has.

Btw, did Capt. say he was in Minnesota?

It is indeed, Upstate. I do remember hearing something about needing owners approval for trades. Hope that's true. Hope Snow doesn't get a chance to (frank) things up more than he has.

Btw, did Capt. say he was in Minnesota?
- Isleshockeyman

He is there all week I guess

He's talking about canning Bert & Ernie now, not back then. I'd be willing to bet 7's left nut that Snow thought he had at least a 95% chance at getting Stamkos. That's why he didn't try to retain KO and he figured that Frans was an automatic re-sign so no need in persuing him. Then he tried a last ditch blowj, I mean effort at Frans and he, rightfully, told Snow to fvck off.
- Isleshockeyman

Don't bet with my nutz! Gamble with your own sack!

Regardless of what Snow thought or assumed, he got it wrong all wrong.

Unless he and Zippy are gone I'm done with this team. I'll route for them to lose!

Don't bet with my nutz! Gamble with your own sack!

Regardless of what Snow thought or assumed, he got it wrong all wrong.

Unless he and Zippy are gone I'm done with this team. I'll route for them to lose!
- nyisles7

It makes no difference for me whether they win or lose. However, I do find it more entertaining when they lose.