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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
The game. He was shooting a lot but was a disaster in his own end.
- Mononoke



You watched a different game than I did. He was strong in his own end. Defending rushes well, key shot blocks. Won puck battles, moved the puck well. He had one poor shift where he made a couple of bad turnovers that led to extended zone attack time, but he played a solid game overall.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:07 PM ET
Provorov carries his ass.

- Just5



Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
Yes, it is.
- MJL

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
Weise out there was garbage. After playing like ass all game and of course he flubs a perfect pass in the slot. Guy has serious cement hands
- Just5

Ohhh I agree.

I don't know where the notion came from that defensively responsible guys can't have speed or some creativity. Flyers need to focus on a culture change away from slow players with questionable puck skill.

Weise doesn't make the US or Can junior team.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
And weise's puck management skills are better?
- Dkos


Weise is excellent puck manager! He delegates by dumping it off the boards
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
Konecny has made a lot of bad decisions with the puck and has been scratched a couple of times, due to some deficiencies in his game. He's young and 19. It's understandable. It's also reasonable to state that in the situation on the road, put out your best offensive players. I can see both sides of it.
- MJL



Actually 3-3 is a lot easier to play defense .. ....man on man coverage....tough bounces tonight. It could have gone either way. Bob was the difference.
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:09 PM ET
Yes, they are.
- MJL

Not seeing it myself
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:10 PM ET
Weise is excellent puck manager! He delegates by dumping it off the boards
- Just5



I don't get him playing in OT...perhaps a reward from the coach for something....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:10 PM ET
Actually 3-3 is a lot easier to play defense .. ....man on man coverage....tough bounces tonight. It could have gone either way. Bob was the difference.
- landros 2


Flyers play man to man defense at 5 on 5. 3-3 is harder, because there is a lot more open ice. Why do you think the game at 3-3 is wide open. If it's easier to defend, why did the league go to 3-3 in OT to increase scoring?

Agreed on the game.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 8 @ 9:11 PM ET
Not seeing it myself
- Dkos

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:11 PM ET
See my avatar, Im with you.
- opeth_pa

Noticed it yesterday and as the founder of this club I am thrilled.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:11 PM ET
Weise is excellent puck manager! He delegates by dumping it off the boards
- Just5

Plays hockey like a Neanderthal
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
With the exception of the one shift where MacDonald had a couple of turnovers, he played a real strong game, just as he has for a considerable amount of time. I have no idea what you're watching.
- MJL


He's been way better this year...still has the odd gaf and bad period....but he is atleast serviceable again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
Not seeing it myself
- Dkos


Wiese is a veteran player, who plays well away from the puck. The issue is the guy has shown zero offense pretty much all season, so I think the criticism of putting him out in 3-3 in OT is valid. I also think in some situations, you should say screw matchups and playing defense, and go for the win. That's when Konecny should see some 3-3 OT ice time.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:13 PM ET
Noticed it yesterday and as the founder of this club I am thrilled.
- Giroux_Is_God



All credit to GiG, I actually said "everything is terrible" at work this week.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
Wiese is a veteran player, who plays well away from the puck. The issue is the guy has shown zero offense pretty much all season, so I think the criticism of putting him out in 3-3 in OT is valid. I also think in some situations, you should say screw matchups and playing defense, and go for the win. That's when Konecny should see some 3-3 OT ice time.
- MJL




Which is exactly what should have happened with a point already in the bank on the road.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
All credit to GiG, I actually said "everything is terrible" at work this week.
- opeth_pa

Literally is a clutch part of the phrase, young padawan.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
Flyers play man to man defense at 5 on 5. 3-3 is harder, because there is a lot more open ice. Why do you think the game at 3-3 is wide open. If it's easier to defend, why the league go to 3-3 in OT to increase scoring?

Agreed on the game.

- MJL


Because theres more ice and more room to make plays...it opens up space. Defence in 3-3 is simple man on man...nothing easier then that. I'm sure the coach has a reason for not playing Konecny but it sure can't be because it's a hard concept to grasp 3-3 play.....that makes zero sense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
Which is exactly what should have happened with a point already in the bank on the road.
- MBFlyerfan


I agree.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:17 PM ET
Because theres more ice and more room to make plays...it opens up space. Defence in 3-3 is simple man on man...nothing easier then that. I'm sure the coach has a reason for not playing Konecny but it sure can't be because it's a hard concept to grasp 3-3 play.....that makes zero sense.
- landros 2


More ice, and more room to make plays, makes it harder to defend, not easier. It's about trust, based on the Konecny's play during the season.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:18 PM ET
Flyers play man to man defense at 5 on 5. 3-3 is harder, because there is a lot more open ice. Why do you think the game at 3-3 is wide open. If it's easier to defend, why did the league go to 3-3 in OT to increase scoring?

Agreed on the game.

- MJL


Why isn't one of our best defenders Gudas out there instead of a player like Ghost if its harder to defend?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 8 @ 9:19 PM ET
All credit to GiG, I actually said "everything is terrible" at work this week.
- opeth_pa

Give this man a medal
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
Literally is a clutch part of the phrase, young padawan.
- Giroux_Is_God


litrilly
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
Which is exactly what should have happened with a point already in the bank on the road.
- MBFlyerfan


Exactly. I wont excuse it. Its the wrong decision
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:22 PM ET
Why isn't one of our best defenders Gudas out there instead of a player like Ghost if its harder to defend?
- Just5


You don't know why? It's about matchups. Hakstol uses Gostisbehere with Giroux and Voracek in OT. You're not going to play a defensive posture for the entire 5 minutes of 3 on 3 OT.
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