How did Taylor Raddysh drop to 58OA last year? 6'2" 73 points in 68 games.
- manvanfan

Apparently his foot speed was an issue


When this was brought up to Tampa scouts they said he doesn't need to skate fast back to center ice after he scores

Did Rodin get re-injured or he is just scratched?

damn winning lineups are hard to get into...

Apparently his foot speed was an issue


When this was brought up to Tampa scouts they said he doesn't need to skate fast back to center ice after he scores
- Redmile247

Same thing about Mark Stone. Obviously foot speed isn't the end all be all.

The likes of Stecher and Hutton making jumps to the NHL in their first years. Picking up undrafted players from the CHL hasn't provided anyone good since Tyler Johnson. NCAA players though seem to be better.
JB should get himself a few more picks for 2018. This draft really does suck for talent. Nico Hischier or Nolan Patrick or bust.
- manvanfan

I don't understand this sentiment. Every single draft in the last 20+ years have produced more than 2 game changers. This one just looks like it is harder to find who that is. Mittlestadt also looks like someone who could be that legit 1C we need,though he would take longer to develop than Hischier or Patrick.

Did Rodin get re-injured or he is just scratched?

damn winning lineups are hard to get into...
- hillbillydeluxe

They probably don't want to play him VS Anh to avoid an injury. They hit hard.

I don't understand this sentiment. Every single draft in the last 20+ years have produced more than 2 game changers. This one just looks like it is harder to find who that is. Mittlestadt also looks like someone who could be that legit 1C we need,though he would take longer to develop than Hischier or Patrick.
- Retinalz

It's ridiculous when people say this draft sucks...interesting changes at the top in this most updated Dec list. As I suspected, Liljegren is tanking while Nico has almost passed Patrick.
https://www.hockeyprospec...-top-62-december-edition/

They probably don't want to play him VS Anh to avoid an injury. They hit hard.
- Retinalz

You could be right, he has a better chance of outrunning Lucic, Kassian and the other goon on Edmonton...Maroon

You could be right, he has a better chance of outrunning Lucic, Kassian and the other goon on Edmonton...Maroon
- Makita

easy on the moonlighting there Makita

They probably don't want to play him VS Anh to avoid an injury. They hit hard.
- Retinalz

I hope he is just practicing hard, getting rid of the rust, working on his timing so we see more of him.

If they were worried about a player getting injured, not sure why they signed Larsen, everyone looks big next to him.

I don't understand this sentiment. Every single draft in the last 20+ years have produced more than 2 game changers. This one just looks like it is harder to find who that is. Mittlestadt also looks like someone who could be that legit 1C we need,though he would take longer to develop than Hischier or Patrick.
- Retinalz

http://www.worldjunior201...om/en/statistics/#players

Just look at the drafted players on the website above and show me the draft eligible players on website below

http://www.worldjunior201...om/en/statistics/#players

It will literally show the difference between a strong draft and a weak one.

http://www.worldjunior2016.com/en/statistics/#players

Just look at the drafted players on the website above and show me the draft eligible players on website below

http://www.worldjunior201...om/en/statistics/#players

It will literally show the difference between a strong draft and a weak one.
- manvanfan

That's a hilarious over simplification. Last year was an anomaly not the norm

That's a hilarious over simplification. Last year was an anomaly not the norm
- CanuckDon

So you do realize the difference between a strong and weak good.
I'm not a scout but if you listen and read what scouts are saying, a lot are saying it's a weak draft. People paid to do it for a living.

So you do realize the difference between a strong and weak good.
I'm not a scout but if you listen and read what scouts are saying, a lot are saying it's a weak draft. People paid to do it for a living.
- manvanfan

Who said it's a weak draft? I haven't heard that. Take away Laine and Matthews from last year and they aren't that different. I have heard that this years draft has more depth in the later rounds but obviously no guaranteed superstars like last year at the top.

Who said it's a weak draft? I haven't heard that. Take away Laine and Matthews from last year and they aren't that different. I have heard that this years draft has more depth in the later rounds but obviously no guaranteed superstars like last year at the top.
- CanuckDon

http://www.usatoday.com/s...rdi-nick-suzuki/95849958/

Who said it's a weak draft? I haven't heard that. Take away Laine and Matthews from last year and they aren't that different. I have heard that this years draft has more depth in the later rounds but obviously no guaranteed superstars like last year at the top.
- CanuckDon

http://puckprose.com/2016...-round-december-rankings/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/draft/2016/12/26/2017-weak-class-nolan-patrick-gabriel-vilardi-nick-suzuki/95849958/
- manvanfan

Thanks for sharing but this is a lousy article that is using data and rankings that are over 2 months old. I am not saying it's a good draft but it's not terrible either. It's probably pretty average if compared to a 10 year average. It's pretty stupid to say Nico, Patrick or bust. There are lots of solid prospects in the top 20. But perhaps Benning should trade our 1st and 2nd round picks as there are only two worthwhile prospects Things would look a little better if Nolan and Vilardi weren't on the shelf.

That's a hilarious over simplification. Last year was an anomaly not the norm
- CanuckDon

This year sucks.

This year sucks.
- Whiskey-Tango

Sure thing master scout Whiskey

Sure thing master scout Whiskey
- CanuckDon

Anytime Don, its yet another opportunity to draft another crop of busts to add to our already large collection

http://www.worldjunior2016.com/en/statistics/#players

Just look at the drafted players on the website above and show me the draft eligible players on website below

http://www.worldjunior201...om/en/statistics/#players

It will literally show the difference between a strong draft and a weak one.
- manvanfan

You did not understand my post, and I do not have enough crayons to explain it to you.

Anytime Don, its yet another opportunity to draft another crop of busts to add to our already large collection


- Whiskey-Tango

You must be a real treat to hang out with. Is your local pub a cellar in your basement?

Edit. Nolan Bustrick

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/draft/2016/12/26/2017-weak-class-nolan-patrick-gabriel-vilardi-nick-suzuki/95849958/
- manvanfan

I have no idea who this is.

Thanks for sharing but this is a lousy article that is using data and rankings that are over 2 months old. I am not saying it's a good draft but it's not terrible either. It's probably pretty average if compared to a 10 year average. It's pretty stupid to say Nico, Patrick or bust. There are lots of solid prospects in the top 20. But perhaps Benning should trade our 1st and 2nd round picks as there are only two worthwhile prospects Things would look a little better if Nolan and Vilardi weren't on the shelf.
- CanuckDon

The only thing "weak" about this draft compared to the last couple of years is the lack of potential franchise players like Eichel, Mathews and Laine.

The sooner people accept that we are not going to get the opportunity to draft a single player that will single-handedly change this team's outlook the sooner the hand-wringing can stop.

The Canucks like most teams will have to draft a number of times in quality position and likely get lucky for them to significantly improve their roster.

We need to be looking at SJ, NSH, NYR, OTT, CAR, TBL, MIN, PHI, CLB, MTL as examples of teams not bottoming out for one or two game changers but slowly accumulating a number of solid prospects.

You did not understand my post, and I do not have enough crayons to explain it to you.
- Retinalz

Maybe the fact you are using crayons and not a pen or pencil probably means you are out of your depth.

The only thing "weak" about this draft compared to the last couple of years is the lack of potential franchise players like Eichel, Mathews and Laine.

The sooner people accept that we are not going to get the opportunity to draft a single player that will single-handedly change this team's outlook the sooner the hand-wringing can stop.

The Canucks like most teams will have to draft a number of times in quality position and likely get lucky for them to significantly improve their roster.

We need to be looking at SJ, NSH, NYR, OTT, CAR, TBL, MIN, PHI, CLB, MTL as examples of teams not bottoming out for one or two game changers but slowly accumulating a number of solid prospects.
- belcherbd

If we got Hischier/Patrick then Our future core is pretty well set. From there we would just hope to draft better players. I have read reports comparing Patrick to Getzlaf. 70-90 pts a season and solid Playoff performances. Teams can win cups without superstars like Crosby. LA has 2 of them, I would hardly call Kopitar a superstar ala Crosby or even Kane either. Just an extremely solid player with an elite skill set the performs very well on both ends of the ice. How many cups do Ovenchicken, or Tavares have?