Horvat plays second unit PP .

Putting him on with the twins is a waste of time. THEY ONLY PASS TO EACH OTHER

How well did 30 goal scorer Eriksson do with the twins . They seriously need to be split up if they are sticking around
- VANTEL

There's better choices than Megma, he's just doing what he's told, I have no issues with him. When you don't put your best players out there it's baffling to say the least.

As a general rule, even back in the 80's and 90's, your best players don't fight, don't be such a jackass. Joe Sakic's career fights, zero, Mike Modano, zero, Anze Kopitar, zero, I could go on and on and on.

Just because you named three guys doesn't make it the norm.
- LeftCoaster

You list individuals that had linemates do it for them . We have a whole group that doesn't fight back.

You are the one that is being the jackass . You are complaining that we traded an AHL prospect for a Dman

There's better choices than Megma, he's just doing what he's told, I have no issues with him. When you don't put your best players out there it's baffling to say the least.
- LeftCoaster

Was Megna the problem last year also and the year before?

The only constant to the 4 year stagnant PP is Edler and the Twins

You list individuals that had linemates do it for them . We have a whole group that doesn't fight back.

You are the one that is being the jackass . You are complaining that we traded an AHL prospect for a Dman
- VANTEL

He's just not that good from what I've seen, I don't think they acquired him to be a fighter. To be honest he plays soft for a big man. I'd rather have McCann, but that's just me.

Sbisa has actually been better than Gudbranson this year, who'da thought that!

He's just not that good from what I've seen, I don't think they acquired him to be a fighter. To be honest he plays soft for a big man. I'd rather have McCann, but that's just me.

Sbisa has actually been better than Gudbranson this year, who'da thought that!
- LeftCoaster

He plays with Ben Hutton on a team that doesn't back check . How good do you want him to be?

Was Megna the problem last year also and the year before?

The only constant to the 4 year stagnant PP is Edler and the Twins
- VANTEL

That's squarely on management, they need to get better players that'll push the Sedins aside. That hasn't happened yet, sadly, thus they keep putting them out there because they're the most talented guys on the team still....which is really really sad.

He plays with Ben Hutton on a team that doesn't back check . How good do you want him to be?
- VANTEL

Better than he has been!

That's squarely on management, they need to get better players that'll push the Sedins aside. That hasn't happened yet, sadly, thus they keep putting them out there because they're the most talented guys on the team still....which is really really sad.
- LeftCoaster

How can you get better players when you chew up 50% of your budget for mediocrity
for 6 players

Horvat plays second unit PP .

Putting him on with the twins is a waste of time. THEY ONLY PASS TO EACH OTHER

How well did 30 goal scorer Eriksson do with the twins . They seriously need to be split up if they are sticking around
- VANTEL

If vantel was coach hank would be 3rd pairing D and Danny back up goalie

In the words of the great Denis Lemieux "trade me right (frank)ing now!"

As a general rule, even back in the 80's and 90's, your best players don't fight, don't be such a jackass. Joe Sakic's career fights, zero, Mike Modano, zero, Anze Kopitar, zero, I could go on and on and on.

Just because you named three guys doesn't make it the norm.
- LeftCoaster

Mike Bossy

How can you get better players when you chew up 50% of your budget for mediocrity
for 6 players
- VANTEL

You draft them and wait it out, or, you trade the Sedins and Edlers, which is what I'd do, but they won't.

If vantel was coach hank would be 3rd pairing D and Danny back up goalie

In the words of the great Denis Lemieux "trade me right (frank)ing now!"


- Redmile247

Torts did sit Johansen and look how that has worked out?

Torts did sit Johansen and look how that has worked out?
- VANTEL

All or none coach. You buy in to the program or you're out.

You draft them and wait it out, or, you trade the Sedins and Edlers, which is what I'd do, but they won't.
- LeftCoaster

Do you think if you played Bo's line 20 min , Sutters line 18 minutes , Hanks line 12 minutes Gaunces line 10 minutes. Do you not think they would ask to be traded at the deadline? No hard feelings seeing they requested?

Edler ask him for a list , if he refuses then expose him at the draft.

All or none coach. You buy in to the program or you're out.
- thundachunk

- VANTEL

My problem with Torts wasnt his coaching or his systems it was his antics.

Do you think if you played Bo's line 20 min , Sutters line 18 minutes , Hanks line 12 minutes Gaunces line 10 minutes. Do you not think they would ask to be traded at the deadline? No hard feelings seeing they requested?

Edler ask him for a list , if he refuses then expose him at the draft.
- VANTEL

You said it yourself many times. When your boss is your pal.(Linden) it will never happen.

My problem with Torts wasnt his coaching or his systems it was his antics.
- thundachunk

Winning changes everything. I look at him as a two year coach. You get tired of his gimmick quickly

Do you think if you played Bo's line 20 min , Sutters line 18 minutes , Hanks line 12 minutes Gaunces line 10 minutes. Do you not think they would ask to be traded at the deadline? No hard feelings seeing they requested?

Edler ask him for a list , if he refuses then expose him at the draft.
- VANTEL

The question is really irrelevant, Desjardins is trying to win games, that's his job, thus he puts the best players out there. And like I said, the Sedins are sadly still the best players.

You said it yourself many times. When your boss is your pal.(Linden) it will never happen.
- thundachunk

Probably not , that is why losing is the best scenario right now

The question is really irrelevant, Desjardins is trying to win games, that's his job, thus he puts the best players out there. And like I said, the Sedins are sadly still the best players.
- LeftCoaster

But he is not winning . He is in 28 th place

They are not their best players.

Probably not , that is why losing is the best scenario right now
- VANTEL

Absolutely, losing is winning. If Linden and Benning don't trade expiring contracts for picks they should be fired, immediately.

He plays with Ben Hutton on a team that doesn't back check . How good do you want him to be?
- VANTEL

Hutton has looked much, much better without Gud.
Who's dragging who down...

But he is not winning . He is in 28 th place

They are not their best players.
- VANTEL

Obviously he's not winning, but he's trying, that's my point. And yes they are still the best forwards on the team. Horvat is right there with them but no one has shown to be as offensively talented, yet.

Every move Benning has made has turned out to be a meh move or a bad move. Hopefully he stops that and concentrates on the draft.

Hutton has looked much, much better without Gud.
Who's dragging who down...
- Whiskey-Tango

I can't sell Gudbrandson . This is a sh1tty team and every mistake is glaring. I would do the trade again .