Holden or Skjei
- airjan23

One is rookie, you would be playing out of position against the other teams top players. Let's see how the other would do when he goes up against top players.

At this point, I am all for giving it a shot, and see whether people are right or not.

Holden or Skjei
- airjan23

the fact that this is still a discussion is...

the fact that this is still a discussion is...
- mrn22

I think you look at things too simplistically. The fact that you can't see potential problems with playing either of those guys on the first pairing right side is

Poor player management by AV. Clendening should be rotated in regularly so he gets some ice time.
- Fenrir

I thought that was the whole point of having the guy. Play your top six one game, sit G the other, sit Staal the next, sit Klein the third, play top-six, rinse and repeat.

Poor player management by AV. Clendening should be rotated in regularly so he gets some ice time.
- Fenrir

esp when the coach comes out and says that he saw the game against Pitt coming because of the schedule...

I think you look at things too simplistically. The fact that you can't see potential problems with playing either of those guys on the first pairing right side is

- Pete V

Both are better than Girardi. Play Girardi where he belongs, sheltered mins

Poor player management by AV. Clendening should be rotated in regularly so he gets some ice time.
- Fenrir

I really think it's because the guys that would come out are penalty killers and up until the Pittsburgh game the PK was thriving

I thought that was the whole point of having the guy. Play your top six one game, sit G the other, sit Staal the next, sit Klein the third, play top-six, rinse and repeat.
- mames11

Exactly! Does AV think he is bruising egos sitting a player? Too bad! Clendening needs to play and players should have been rested with the brutal schedule.

Both are better than Girardi. Play Girardi where he belongs, sheltered mins
- mrn22

I think playing a rookie out of position against Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taveres, Giroux, etc. would be disaster and would set him back.

Nick Holden has played well, but he is a guy who the Rangers got for a fourth round pick. Do you ever question whether he would look as effective if he played huge minutes against the above listed type of players.

Honestly, I just want Girardi to get traded, so I don't have to hear his name anymore, anytime the Rangers have a clunker. And then we can see how much we all like Holden or Skjei on the top pair right side.

Remember, a good portion of this blog wanted McIlrath to play big minutes last year. The same guy that passed through waivers, and can't even play a few games for the Florida Panthers.

The backup quarterback is often the most popular guy in town.

I really think it's because the guys that would come out are penalty killers and up until the Pittsburgh game the PK was thriving
- jimbro83

No reason not to play him now.

I bet Tanner Glass has sparked more blogs in his NHL career than Crosby.
- Grinder47

But has he banged as many dudes?

I think playing a rookie out of position against Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taveres, Giroux, etc. would be disaster and would set him back.

Nick Holden has played well, but he is a guy who the Rangers got for a fourth round pick. Do you ever question whether he would look as effective if he played huge minutes against the above listed type of players.

Honestly, I just want Girardi to get traded, so I don't have to hear his name anymore, anytime the Rangers have a clunker. And then we can see how much we all like Holden or Skjei on the top pair right side.

Remember, a good portion of this blog wanted McIlrath to play big minutes last year. The same guy that passed through waivers, and can't even play a few games for the Florida Panthers.

The backup quarterback is often the most popular guy in town.
- Pete V

look im not trying to argue here.

just my opinion that Girardi shouldnt be playing top pair mins anymore and would take the bumps along the way of Skjei playing because he will get accustomed to it and we would potentially could see a future top pair with him and Mac

I also think Holden has gotten better and better as the season has progressed and he has gotten used to AV's system and would like to see another look with him paird with Mac

I think playing a rookie out of position against Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taveres, Giroux, etc. would be disaster and would set him back.

Nick Holden has played well, but he is a guy who the Rangers got for a fourth round pick. Do you ever question whether he would look as effective if he played huge minutes against the above listed type of players.

Honestly, I just want Girardi to get traded, so I don't have to hear his name anymore, anytime the Rangers have a clunker. And then we can see how much we all like Holden or Skjei on the top pair right side.

Remember, a good portion of this blog wanted McIlrath to play big minutes last year. The same guy that passed through waivers, and can't even play a few games for the Florida Panthers.



The backup quarterback is often the most popular guy in town.
- Pete V

It's more like; many wanted to rest G when he was just awful and we suspected he was injured. And McIlrath was a good option at that time.

look im not trying to argue here.

just my opinion that Girardi shouldnt be playing top pair mins anymore and would take the bumps along the way of Skjei playing because he will get accustomed to it and we would potentially could see a future top pair with him and Mac

I also think Holden has gotten better and better as the season has progressed and he has gotten used to AV's system and would like to see another look with him paird with Mac
- mrn22

vs Pittsburgh, Girardi played 17 minutes, almost 4 minutes of it killing PIMs

Holden played close to 22 minutes

I think playing a rookie out of position against Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taveres, Giroux, etc. would be disaster and would set him back.

Nick Holden has played well, but he is a guy who the Rangers got for a fourth round pick. Do you ever question whether he would look as effective if he played huge minutes against the above listed type of players.

Honestly, I just want Girardi to get traded, so I don't have to hear his name anymore, anytime the Rangers have a clunker. And then we can see how much we all like Holden or Skjei on the top pair right side.

Remember, a good portion of this blog wanted McIlrath to play big minutes last year. The same guy that passed through waivers, and can't even play a few games for the Florida Panthers.

The backup quarterback is often the most popular guy in town.
- Pete V

Don't you dare crap on my Holden.

vs Pittsburgh, Girardi played 17 minutes, almost 4 minutes of it killing PIMs

Holden played close to 22 minutes
- jimbro83

I think we also have to take into account how Mcdonaghs game could really rise with a different partner..

It's more like; many wanted to rest G when he was just awful and we suspected he was injured. And McIlrath was a good option at that time.
- 21peter

That's true. My only point of disagreement. McIlrath was never a good option. We just tried to convince ourselves that he was, and that AV was stupid for not playing him. I think the fact that every NHL team passed him up on waivers says something about the correctness of AV's evaluation.

I don't even disagree with you guys that Girardi shouldn't be a top pair defensemen anymore. But, I also still think he is the best option given the current roster.

even if they officially announced Girardi is not on the top pairing anymore, more likely than he is still going to kill penalties with McD

You want to see less Girardi? they need to stay out of the box, this is after a few days of crying that they need to play tougher, which would mean more penalties

Don't you dare crap on my Holden.
- mdw7413

I'm really not. But, believe me, you move him up to the first pair, the whole Rangers universe would be crapping on him after about 10 games.

I'm really not. But, believe me, you move him up to the first pair, the whole Rangers universe would be crapping on him after about 10 games.
- Pete V

like they did the first 10 games

even if they officially announced Girardi is not on the top pairing anymore, more likely than he is still going to kill penalties with McD

You want to see less Girardi? they need to stay out of the box, this is after a few days of crying that they need to play tougher, which would mean more penalties
- jimbro83

Not from me jimbo

I'm really not. But, believe me, you move him up to the first pair, the whole Rangers universe would be crapping on him after about 10 games.
- Pete V

I know

I'm with you though on Skjei, no way I want him on his off side against the other top players.

like they did the first 10 games
- jimbro83

Maybe he's more comfortable, maybe not, but you dont know till you try

like they did the first 10 games
- jimbro83

Me and you made up the Holden fan club at the time.

I know

I'm with you though on Skjei, no way I want him on his off side against the other top players.
- mdw7413

guess I disagree with you two jabronis