Player -wise he's ok but we need to free up that salary of his to focus on better dmen
- LordHumungous

We aren't going to be competitive next year either...I am indifferent if Vegas takes Sbisa, Granlund or Bae

You guys need a new coach. Babcock is so (frank)ing annoying. His facial expressions and post game comments have to be top 5 worst all time for coaches.
- dshiddy

He's a good coach but people really need to start questioning his integrity. He’s not even hiding the fact that he’s throwing games. There are suggestions that Babcock is profiting greatly from leaf losses. Not only from hidden bonuses within his contract with MLSE but through questionable connections with Vegas.

It all just stinks.

We aren't going to be competitive next year either...I am indifferent if Vegas takes Sbisa, Granlund or Bae
- CanuckDon

As a Vegas fan shouldn't you care?

A true rebuild has begun, just not a cowardly one like Shanahan prefers
- CanuckDon

Yup, that was the shorthand version of my post. Its begun, they wont market it or announce it because it already started. They say "stay the course" because thats where they are

He is not even close to being a problem...
- CanuckDon

Sbisa and Gudbranson are basically the same player:

-Similar point totals
-Sbisa has slightly better possession numbers (still not good though)
-Gudbranson hits more
-Gudbranson has more giveaways (slightly)
-Sbisa is a better skater

Basically, management saw Sbisa last year and said "we need to double down on this sh!t"

Neither guy is suited for more than a 5/6 role, and yet Gudbranson is likely going to get paid like a 3/4 guy in the near future because of his "intangibles"

The funny thing is, Tryamkin is better than these two guys in almost every way (possession stats, hits per game, way fewer giveaways, salary)

it's an amusing post but there are separate camps. People that scream for a TO rebuild and then complain about the coach are idiots...true. I just think he is a bad coach and has worn out his welcome. I want the kids to learn in a positive environment. It is becoming toxic.
- CanuckDon

I understand that there are two schools of thought here.... rebuild slowly or tear it apart.

And I see everyone's logic that you MUST be in one camp or the other or it just wastes more time.

But If they let things get so bad, so embarrassing, that something must be done and this is an entertainment business.

Top 5 Replacements:

1. Doug Jarvis
2. Phil Collins
3. Ron Wood
4. Sammy Hagar
5. Whoever is the new singer of Journey.

I hope they go with Jarvis.

He's a good coach but people really need to start questioning his integrity. He’s not even hiding the fact that he’s throwing games. There are suggestions that Babcock is profiting greatly from leaf losses. Not only from hidden bonuses within his contract with MLSE but through questionable connections with Vegas.

It all just stinks.
- bloatedmosquito

Seriously? Si this a thing?

We aren't going to be competitive next year either...I am indifferent if Vegas takes Sbisa, Granlund or Bae
- CanuckDon

If you are given three piles of poop to choose from, is it really a choice?

Shouldn't he be banned for calling his fellow posters chumps?



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- dshiddy

Flagged for whining.

Seriously? Si this a thing?
- Beatle_john

It is if we want it to be. It is the internet after all...

I understand that there are two schools of thought here.... rebuild slowly or tear it apart.

And I see everyone's logic that you MUST be in one camp or the other or it just wastes more time.

But If they let things get so bad, so embarrassing, that something must be done and this is an entertainment business.

Top 5 Replacements:

1. Doug Jarvis
2. Phil Collins
3. Ron Wood
4. Sammy Hagar
5. Whoever is the new singer of Journey.

I hope they go with Jarvis.
- Beatle_john

Maybe it's time to bring up Travis Green.

Sbisa and Gudbranson are basically the same player:

-Similar point totals
-Sbisa has slightly better possession numbers (still not good though)
-Gudbranson hits more
-Gudbranson has more giveaways (slightly)
-Sbisa is a better skater

Basically, management saw Sbisa last year and said "we need to double down on this sh!t"

Neither guy is suited for more than a 5/6 role, and yet Gudbranson is likely going to get paid like a 3/4 guy in the near future because of his "intangibles"

The funny thing is, Tryamkin is better than these two guys in almost every way (possession stats, hits per game, way fewer giveaways, salary)
- nucks_94

Got to disagree.... Sbisa has no upside or room for improvement. Gudbranson, while not having an excellent season, shows upside.

Maybe it's time to bring up Travis Green.
- As_I_See_It

Ignorant Level 11.

Got to disagree.... Sbisa has no upside or room for improvement. Gudbranson, while not having an excellent season, shows upside.
- Beatle_john

What is this upside that he has shown?

We aren't going to be competitive next year either...I am indifferent if Vegas takes Sbisa, Granlund or Bae
- CanuckDon

I hope the team is so bad next year that the Sedins will not even consider an extension.

Got to disagree.... Sbisa has no upside or room for improvement. Gudbranson, while not having an excellent season, shows upside.
- Beatle_john

The guy has played close to 350 NHL games, not sure how much he's going to improve.

Sbisa and Gudbranson are basically the same player:

-Similar point totals
-Sbisa has slightly better possession numbers (still not good though)
-Gudbranson hits more
-Gudbranson has more giveaways (slightly)
-Sbisa is a better skater

Basically, management saw Sbisa last year and said "we need to double down on this sh!t"

Neither guy is suited for more than a 5/6 role, and yet Gudbranson is likely going to get paid like a 3/4 guy in the near future because of his "intangibles"

The funny thing is, Tryamkin is better than these two guys in almost every way (possession stats, hits per game, way fewer giveaways, salary)
- nucks_94

I was actually impressed with Tryamkin.

He's a very stable player.

I hope the team is so bad next year that the Sedins will not even consider an extension.
- Marwood

Henrik president and Daniel GM.

What is this upside that he has shown?
- nucks_94

OK.. again... while not having a stellar season.... who do you want in a fight?
Which one has leadership abilities?
Which one's name rhymes with Brudgumberson?
His speed and skating is good for a large man.
His positioning in front of the net is textbook good.

What is this upside that he has shown?
- nucks_94

He's a Dman with size, strength, and the ability to skate. For most GMs that's enough to work with.

Henrik president and Daniel GM.
- golfingsince

Lets be honest ---- is that not what is already happening???

I understand that there are two schools of thought here.... rebuild slowly or tear it apart.

And I see everyone's logic that you MUST be in one camp or the other or it just wastes more time.

But If they let things get so bad, so embarrassing, that something must be done and this is an entertainment business.

Top 5 Replacements:

1. Doug Jarvis
2. Phil Collins
3. Ron Wood
4. Sammy Hagar
5. Whoever is the new singer of Journey.

I hope they go with Jarvis.
- Beatle_john

Maybe it's time to bring up Travis Green.
- As_I_See_It

No. It won't change a thing.

OK.. again... while not having a stellar season.... who do you want in a fight?
Which one has leadership abilities?
Which one's name rhymes with Brudgumberson?
His speed and skating is good for a large man.
His positioning in front of the net is textbook good.
- Beatle_john

I remember reading out of training camp he was beating Hutton in all the skating drills

Henrik president and Daniel GM.
- golfingsince

I don't think they would have picked Jake.