Wow finally someone said it. people have been dropping the ball with the first comment.
- SRam19

It is this lack of attention to detail that is so disappointing. It is also frustrating that some people only pay attention to these details when they are in certain threads.

You can't play only a fraction of the game and expect to be successful. You should strive to be fist in every blog situation you can, and not to forget to advise the appropriate people as to services they should begin offering.

I expect to see LeonKennedy be a much more popular fixture on these boards in the near future.

While I enjoyed the piece on accountable stats; wasn't there an Oilers game last night? Can anyone tell me how it ended?
- fry

McDavid has 2 assists. Nuff said.

Agree, especially with the luck statement. Luck is something that is too commonly used by armchair analytics people to explain discrepancies in data.

I think this is more likely a thing where Chiarelli misspoke or didnt fully understand the analytics given to him to be able explain it in an interview. I dont think thats a bad thing, it's not his job to fully understand all the analytics and explain it to someone, he just has to take all info given to him and make good choices. With the Oilers' record/stats as of now, I think he's done a decent job.
- 13sundin13

The analytics are never wrong. They are perfectly indicative of whatever the proponent wants them to be. If you do not agree you are stupid, do not understand math, the sample size is too small, or too big, or luck is to blame.

Today's analytics are perfect and I fully expect Corsi to be used to decide games in the near future.

McDavid has 2 assists. Nuff said.
- Wildschwein

Loved how he got 1st star. Can't think of one single Finnish defenseman who deserved it a little more.

Loved how he got 1st star. Can't think of one single Finnish defenseman who deserved it a little more.
- fry

Yeah that was a bit puzzling. Generational bias I suppose.

Yeah that was a bit puzzling. Generational bias I suppose.
- Wildschwein

I like watching the odd Oil game, but it drives me nuts how much the media loves McD.

They interviewed Gardiner last week and all they asked him about was McDavid.

I like watching the odd Oil game, but it drives me nuts how much the media loves McD.

They interviewed Gardiner last week and all they asked him about was McDavid.
- fry

Its getting to be a bit much for sure. Probably pisses off the other players as well.

I like watching the odd Oil game, but it drives me nuts how much the media loves McD.

They interviewed Gardiner last week and all they asked him about was McDavid.
- fry

How dare they ask Gardiner about Mickey's D. They should be asking how it feels to be a top-5 defenseman in the NHL.

How dare they ask Gardiner about Mickey's D. They should be asking how it feels to be a top-5 defenseman in the NHL.
- AdamFrench

That would be cruel.

It is this lack of attention to detail that is so disappointing. It is also frustrating that some people only pay attention to these details when they are in certain threads.

You can't play only a fraction of the game and expect to be successful. You should strive to be fist in every blog situation you can, and not to forget to advise the appropriate people as to services they should begin offering.

I expect to see LeonKennedy be a much more popular fixture on these boards in the near future.
- Aetherial

havent seen sluttager for a awhile.

That would be cruel.
- Wildschwein

The unabashed TRUTH can be cruel my porcine amigo.

The unabashed TRUTH can be cruel my porcine amigo.
- AdamFrench

I don't know if he or I for that matter, can handle such harsh truths.

Hall rocked the wrong Larsson

Hall rocked the wrong Larsson
- time2produce

THEE Larsson would have rocked Hall. It is known.

Said to try Cagg with Mc David. Looked good last night. Hope this happens more

Said to try Cagg with Mc David. Looked good last night. Hope this happens more
- time2produce

Ehhhh....who the (frank) doesn't?

Ehhhh....who the (frank) doesn't?
- AdamFrench

I guess you do to. called it weeks ago. Nice to be right i guess

If Peter Chiarelli was told by some analytics firm that Niklas Kronwall and Kris Russell ranked 1 & 2 respectively in passing that lead to zone entries and they were ahead of Keith, Letang, Suter, Giordano, Hjalmarsson, and Karlsson then once again red flags should have gone off.



Why? HERO Charts place PA Parenteau as a top tier second line player bordering on first...and yet he's waiver wire candy and puts up second line points playing heavily gifted offensive minutes with top tier players like Tavares and Duchene.

That's an analytics firm telling me that PA Parenteau is better than (randomly search a top players name) Claude Giroux. But that's the "truth" and gospel.
- AdamFrench

Analytics are for Chumps and Tanner.

If Peter Chiarelli was told by some analytics firm that Niklas Kronwall and Kris Russell ranked 1 & 2 respectively in passing that lead to zone entries and they were ahead of Keith, Letang, Suter, Giordano, Hjalmarsson, and Karlsson then once again red flags should have gone off.



Why? HERO Charts place PA Parenteau as a top tier second line player bordering on first...and yet he's waiver wire candy and puts up second line points playing heavily gifted offensive minutes with top tier players like Tavares and Duchene.

That's an analytics firm telling me that PA Parenteau is better than (randomly search a top players name) Claude Giroux. But that's the "truth" and gospel.
- AdamFrench

Hard to argue with that. Top quality post as usual, Frenchy

Wow finally someone said it. people have been dropping the ball with the first comment.
- SRam19

Someone has to carry all the weight around here.

Analytics are for Chumps and Tanner.
- LittleRickyV2

And meatspin is too.

SUCK IT JERO!!!!!!
- smellmyfinger

I think you mean Dyson

Great write up.

Why does Chia say these things? See my location ...

And the passing analytics back up what I see and what I've been saying.
Most specifically in regards to Larsson. He's not a good puck mover at all and dumps more pucks than anyone else on the team.
We've heard Chiarelli say these types of things about Russell, Larsson and Reinhart that just aren't true. If former oiler management said these things people would be publicly flogging them by now.
- Iggysbff

Yeah but like come on they didn't have Mcdavid then to cover up all the bad

While im not completely onside with analytics quite yet, I think a lot of people would disagree with this statement. The eye test alone has a ton of flaws as well.

Missing over arching trends and inherent bias are undoubtedly problems with the eye test. Rather big ones. And nearly impossible to argue against as well. I see it every day on posters evaluations. Myself included.
The differences of opinion in eberle immediately comes to mind. I'm forever defending his value. But am I bias ? He's one of my fav players, so potentially yes. Are the haters that put too much stock (imo anyways) in his defensive deficiencies looking for every little negative thing to point out because of bias ?
Potentially yes as wel
- HB77

I am not really a Russel fan per say. But my eyes tell me he is a top 4 defender that compliments the Oilers so far this year.

I am only saying taking the numbers without any context is far inferior to the eye test.

The best way to evaluate player performance would of course be using the eye test AND analytics. Unfortunately I do not believe there is currently any sure fire conclusive way to do that in the game of hockey either.

And meatspin is too.
- smellmyfinger

I feel like that needs to become an account