Wow - Schenn on the 4th line? I don't watch as much as I'd like, but is he in a slump or something?
- wolphnuts12

Fourth line but lead team in ice time last game...

Line number mean nothing in today's NHL.

CV has done nothing to lose his spot, though.
- Scoob

True, but you will need to sit someone to get a kid in. I'm not saying that CV should never play another game, I just want to see Leier get a shot.

He's among the team leaders in turnovers per touch, and one of the worst shot suppressing forwards in the NHL.

But he's one of our top PKer's on our subpar PK and a good soldier so he will never sit

You can say VDV isn't a huge concern, but to me it is. It shows that either Hak and co are extremely poor at evaluating talent, or talent evaluation does not trump all else.
- JFlyers00

I can cherry pick stats also. Vandevelde has a solid 52.54CF% and in GA/60 at 4 on 5, Vandevelde is second best among the regular PK forwards, surpassed by only Simmonds.

Your read on what it shows, is inaccurate. Talent is just that. Scott Laughton is a lot more talented than a number of players in the lineup, but that doesn't mean he automatically plays.

VDV will never approach 700+ NHL games played. Hakstol won't be a coach long enough in the League for that to happen. Anyway, if you are trying to defend a 4th line/AHL player being tied in goals scored with Giroux more than 1/4 of the way into the season then there isn't any point discussing it further. Giroux has been invisible the entire season at even strength and its unacceptable is my point.
- PLindbergh31

Your point has been the same literally every single post I have seen from you, but thanks for clarifying. You're the Vandevelde of this blog

I can cherry pick stats also. Vandevelde has a solid 52.54CF% and in GA/60 at 4 on 5, Vandevelde is second best among the regular PK forwards, surpassed by only Simmonds.

Your read on what it shows, is inaccurate. Talent is just that. Scott Laughton is a lot more talented than a number of players in the lineup, but that doesn't mean he automatically plays.
- MJL

CF is a team stat, sir

Your point has been the same literally every single post I have seen from you, but thanks for clarifying. You're the Vandevelde of this blog
- YuenglingJagr

So I'm tied with the Giroux of this blog. Nice!

True, but you will need to sit someone to get a kid in. I'm not saying that CV should never play another game, I just want to see Leier get a shot.
- BiggE

Hextall was asked about that, in a recent scrum with reporters. To paraphrase, Hextall said that they're in the business of winning games, and they don't need to audition players to know what they bring, if they're ready for the NHL, and if they'll improve the team. Fans want to see players "get a shot" NHL GM's and coaches know when a player is ready. If they thought Leier was ready, and could improve the team, he'd be on the team. It's not fool proof, but they have a pretty good idea.

CF is a team stat, sir
- YuenglingJagr

Yes, it is! So is shot suppression!

So I'm tied with the Giroux of this blog. Nice!
- PLindbergh31

yep...keep up the good work

Hextall was asked about that, in a recent scrum with reporters. To paraphrase, Hextall said that they're in the business of winning games, and they don't need to audition players to know what they bring, if they're ready for the NHL, and if they'll improve the team. Fans want to see players "get a shot" NHL GM's and coaches know when a player is ready. If they thought Leier was ready, and could improve the team, he'd be on the team. It's not fool proof, but they have a pretty good idea.
- MJL

Considering they've won 10 of 23 games, perhaps they should rethink their business model?

Wow - Schenn on the 4th line? I don't watch as much as I'd like, but is he in a slump or something?
- wolphnuts12

Clearly it's CV's fault

Hextall was asked about that, in a recent scrum with reporters. To paraphrase, Hextall said that they're in the business of winning games, and they don't need to audition players to know what they bring, if they're ready for the NHL, and if they'll improve the team. Fans want to see players "get a shot" NHL GM's and coaches know when a player is ready. If they thought Leier was ready, and could improve the team, he'd be on the team. It's not fool proof, but they have a pretty good idea.
- MJL

You're talking about the time Hextall defended the goalies on his team

Clearly it's CV's fault
- Scoob

True, but you will need to sit someone to get a kid in. I'm not saying that CV should never play another game, I just want to see Leier get a shot.
- BiggE

Sure, but he (any player) needs to earn it by kicking down the AHL door and forcing his way in. "Give a kid a chance" doesn't fly with me.

So I'm tied with the Giroux of this blog. Nice!
- PLindbergh31

LOL!!! well played

Sure, but he (any player) needs to earn it by kicking down the AHL door and forcing his way in. "Give a kid a chance" doesn't fly with me.
- Scoob

16 points in 18 games, +4, playing on the pp and pk and from all reports, he's playing extremely well. What more does he need to do?

Considering they've won 10 of 23 games, perhaps they should rethink their business model?
- BiggE

Definitely.

But CV is not the first item on the list of things that need to change. He's not even in the top 10.

16 points in 18 games, +4, playing on the pp and pk and from all reports, he's playing extremely well. What more does he need to do?
- BiggE

injure chris vandevelde

16 points in 18 games, +4, playing on the pp and pk and from all reports, he's playing extremely well. What more does he need to do?
- BiggE

Kick the door down. Can't you read? lol

Sorry if this is leight, but if you were wondering what Flyers '06 draftee Jakub Kovar's been up to lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7tf3etPGs

Definitely.

But CV is not the first item on the list of things that need to change. He's not even in the top 10.
- Scoob

list please

Sorry if this is leight, but if you were wondering what Flyers '06 draftee Jakub Kovar's been up to lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7tf3etPGs
- johndewar

I wasn't wondering at all, but that was a nice save for sure.

Sorry if this is leight, but if you were wondering what Flyers '06 draftee Jakub Kovar's been up to lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7tf3etPGs
- johndewar

what a feeling

Sorry if this is leight, but if you were wondering what Flyers '06 draftee Jakub Kovar's been up to lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7tf3etPGs
- johndewar

Been a starter for 2 pretty poor teams in the KHL, but putting up decent numbers.

In response to BiggE .......I have mixed feelings. I expected a 7-8 seed again for the playoffs and I ALWAYS root for the playoffs but part of me feels as tho missing the playoffs could be the best thing in the sense that they will try to move all of the UFAs like Streit and Schultz and call up kids like Morin and Leier to get some experience.