I'm not in favour of firing either of them this season, I don't see the point.
- CubanBuffet

Either am I, but unfortunately this is a results based business and all the arm chair experts were calling for Willies firing after the loss to Calgary. We see it almost everyday here and on 1040.

Omfg your comparing a actually cup contender with Crosby Malkin letang and kessel to a bottom feeder with the aging sedins and your prized goal-less sniper loui get real man...
- Bigalow

He may just be making a bold point about how a team can improve drastically by a coaching change mid season. As for Cup contention that would be akin to flying to the moon in a weather balloon.

Omfg your comparing a actually cup contender with Crosby Malkin letang and kessel to a bottom feeder with the aging sedins and your prized goal-less sniper loui get real man...
- Bigalow

where did I compare the teams? Nowhere.
The point was yes a coach can change the fortunes of the team in a short time. Even midseason. At no time did I compare their team to the canucks or any other team. Not sure where you got that from

Big change in standings.
We are now where we thought we'd be.

Big change in standings.
We are now where we thought we'd be.
- Scooby_Doo

I havent checked....where are we now?

more empty factless crap. Someone clearly is jealous.
The only pig is you....for your fact less negative venom in attempts to start fights.

Fight w yourself. No one wants to
- SMBDragon

I flagged you for hurting my feelings.

completely agree. Seems like his only daily agenda
- SMBDragon

Then others chime in trying to be funny. It's one thing to joke around and be funny and another to be dismissive and condescending

Has anyone noticed Bo has stopped using his linemates that much. Seems to be pulling a Kesler every game(the puck hog, not the diver)
- Retinalz

I'm a bit torn on this. Not scoring, we need guys to shoot. It was mentioned WD talked about guys looking for the perfect shot. I can handle Bo being a little selfish, but he also made a great pass to Baertschi tonight.

Wasn't that kind of brutal at the end, we had the extra skater and the puck was cycled around the perimeter, never got a good shot away.

I'm not sure if I am necessarily against Bo holding onto the puck a bit more, it seems like he is trying to do a bit more with it. If he finds some success, expect more, if he doesn't, maybe he will adjust and use his wingers more. He has to be seeing video and getting this pointed out.

where did I compare the teams? Nowhere.
The point was yes a coach can change the fortunes of the team in a short time. Even midseason. At no time did I compare their team to the canucks or any other team. Not sure where you got that from
- SMBDragon

I took it the same way. . .

where did I compare the teams? Nowhere.
The point was yes a coach can change the fortunes of the team in a short time. Even midseason. At no time did I compare their team to the canucks or any other team. Not sure where you got that from
- SMBDragon

Told him but seems he like others live to jump at a post and twist it into something else so they can try to come off as looking smarter ... a waste of space and defeats the purpose of discussion in a thread. But instead of asking what you meant it's easier to say something derogtove because they think it makes them look better

I took it the same way. . .
- CubanBuffet

but if you re read the post now maybe it would be more clear?
THe claim was a coaching change would have little impact....my response was no history has shown the change can be a difference maker.

I do feel the canucks can be playing much better with better results. Maybe not championships or anything but better.

Told him but seems he like others live to jump at a post and twist it into something else so they can try to come off as looking smarter ... a waste of space and defeats the purpose of discussion in a thread. But instead of asking what you meant it's easier to say something derogtove because they think it makes them look better
- Nuck4U

sometimes anyone can make an incorrect impression of something read. and true that some people also have a hard time interpretting something from text form too. Most posters here are pretty good that way though.

Ill certainly agree there are some here that live to twist things around into something negative. Youd think they were in grade 4 still

Either am I, but unfortunately this is a results based business and all the arm chair experts were calling for Willies firing after the loss to Calgary. We see it almost everyday here and on 1040.
- Makita

You are spot on about the results oriented. Tortella was given a year under a long term contract. WD had instant success and disappointed in the playoffs. That got him another season where team fell apart. JB improved what he could. But may have missed out on some secondary UFA's because he's thinking long term development.

The rebuild comes here with the notion there is a compete for playoffs. Is WD delivering that with this roster...? Maybe ... can someone do more ... that's the belief. However, who that someone is probably more important then just getting rid of WD. He hasn't lost this team. He's not causing harm to the players. They just aren't producing. The result is coaching ability aside their skills and development may not have much more then what is being shown.

sometimes anyone can make an incorrect impression of something read. and true that some people also have a hard time interpretting something from text form too. Most posters here are pretty good that way though.

Ill certainly agree there are some here that live to twist things around into something negative. Youd think they were in grade 4 still
- SMBDragon[/quote]

Look at the presidential election a lot of people just stay in negative mode all their life

Canucks suck, the sky is falling, dragon is a wimp, Nuck4U looks like he is guilty for farting, Marwood sucks farts out of dead seagulls, etc


Joking boys! I think we will turn it around. Maybe this is our one and only slump of the year? There is no way we lose to Toronto. I will punch my grandma in the face if we do! (Marwood style)

I'm a bit torn on this. Not scoring, we need guys to shoot. It was mentioned WD talked about guys looking for the perfect shot. I can handle Bo being a little selfish, but he also made a great pass to Baertschi tonight.

Wasn't that kind of brutal at the end, we had the extra skater and the puck was cycled around the perimeter, never got a good shot away.

I'm not sure if I am necessarily against Bo holding onto the puck a bit more, it seems like he is trying to do a bit more with it. If he finds some success, expect more, if he doesn't, maybe he will adjust and use his wingers more. He has to be seeing video and getting this pointed out.
- hillbillydeluxe

Good points though it seems the problem is the snake bit lack of scoring and he is trying to take the team on his back to break it out of its funk by doing it like that.... it may work for a Mcjesus from time to time but he's not the elite game breaker and this team is in a collective nose dive for offense.

but if you re read the post now maybe it would be more clear?
THe claim was a coaching change would have little impact....my response was no history has shown the change can be a difference maker.

I do feel the canucks can be playing much better with better results. Maybe not championships or anything but better.
- SMBDragon

Unless you edited it, it would be just as clear as the first time I read it. You discuss two teams, you imply that what worked for one could work for the other, it seems like a comparison. But it doesn't matter. If it's not what you meant it's not what you meant. Some people have more trouble writing with clarity than others.

You are spot on about the results oriented. Tortella was given a year under a long term contract. WD had instant success and disappointed in the playoffs. That got him another season where team fell apart. JB improved what he could. But may have missed out on some secondary UFA's because he's thinking long term development.

The rebuild comes here with the notion there is a compete for playoffs. Is WD delivering that with this roster...? Maybe ... can someone do more ... that's the belief. However, who that someone is probably more important then just getting rid of WD. He hasn't lost this team. He's not causing harm to the players. They just aren't producing. The result is coaching ability aside their skills and development may not have much more then what is being shown.
- Nuck4U

Yes I agree with the bolded part. We do have green in utica and its said he will be a HC somewhere by next season. If WD gets canned midseason Jarvis can be handed the interm duties

Canucks suck, the sky is falling, dragon is a wimp, Nuck4U looks like he is guilty for farting, Marwood sucks farts out of dead seagulls, etc


Joking boys! I think we will turn it around. Maybe this is our one and only slump of the year? There is no way we lose to Toronto. I will punch my grandma in the face if we do! (Marwood style)
- Bakwas

You did see Canada's team won tonight, beat that juggernaut Sabres team, we're (frank)ed and I hope your grandma can take a good punch.

Unless you edited it, it would be just as clear as the first time I read it. You discuss two teams, you imply that what worked for one could work for the other, it seems like a comparison. But it doesn't matter. If it's not what you meant it's not what you meant. Some people have more trouble writing with clarity than others.
- CubanBuffet

I read it and posted to the attacker exactly what Dragon did later clarify that's what he meant. Again ... if not sure just ask. Why attack and demean...?

Unless you edited it, it would be just as clear as the first time I read it. You discuss two teams, you imply that what worked for one could work for the other, it seems like a comparison. But it doesn't matter. If it's not what you meant it's not what you meant. Some people have more trouble writing with clarity than others.
- CubanBuffet

Today @ 1:02 AM ET
A new coach isn't going to change anything. When a bad team gets snake bitten you get what we've been witnessing for the last five games.
- CubanBuffet

history shows otherwise. twice the pens have changed the coach and gone to win the cup as a result. Once was mid season, which was dan blysma.
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that is exact copy of the original post. Where do you see reference to the canucks? and no comparison between teams either.

I read it and posted to the attacker exactly what Dragon did later clarify that's what he meant. Again ... if not sure just ask. Why attack and demean...?
- Nuck4U

thank you for helping.

for the record cuban has been a good poster over the years. He's ok. Maybe he's just having an off day. Everyone of us has had bad days here.

You did see Canada's team won tonight, beat that juggernaut Sabres team, we're (frank)ed and I hope your grandma can take a good punch.
- Makita

To be fair the leafs have a couple wins in a row where they were outplayed by the opposition but still won ....and the Canucks have been outplaying opposition and losing ... this game is trending to be 2-1 leafs where van out shoots them 46-17

For the sake of this thread I hope its a 5-1 Canucks win

Yes I agree with the bolded part. We do have green in utica and its said he will be a HC somewhere by next season. If WD gets canned midseason Jarvis can be handed the interm duties
- SMBDragon

I know you respect Jarvis but he's had no HC NHL experience. Green has been talked about and not hired by other teams. The Flames past on him over our own assistant coach. Plus what has he done in Utica that makes him so much better then WD? I am not saying Green isn't capable but I don't know what he will bring that will make a difference now?

thank you for helping.

for the record cuban has been a good poster over the years. He's ok. Maybe he's just having an off day. Everyone of us has had bad days here.
- SMBDragon

Yeah that wasn't meant against Cuban... it was a general retort ... he was just pointing out it wasn't clear enough for him.