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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 30 @ 10:24 PM ET
Jump on the bandwagon friend. You know what do to
- Codes1087


THought only Vantel had the lemming following with pie recipe included ....

Is fence sitting a non bandwagon act....
golfingsince
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Oct 30 @ 10:26 PM ET
You need booze my friend. That will help pass the time
- Codes1087


Yeah, went to the liquor store an hour ago. The problem is i'll probably be up till 4AM.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 30 @ 10:33 PM ET
Brett Connolly just popped one, man the Capitals make other teams chase the game a lot....speed and skill are not in short supply! I admire what George McPhee built there.
- LeftCoaster



They are an elite team. It's there window and they need to win more then a President's Trophy .... that extra winning in the playoffs ingredient is a test not yet passed .... and it seems the leadership of the team may not have it if you stack them up to the Pens....what do you see...?

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
Yeah, went to the liquor store an hour ago. The problem is i'll probably be up till 4AM.
- golfingsince



Just keep watching last weeks and tonight's episode of the "Walking Dead .... er Canucks v ????
A_SteamingLombardi
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Oct 30 @ 11:01 PM ET
golfingsince
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Oct 30 @ 11:17 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


(frank)ing Lefty.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:20 AM ET
No.....the poster I was responding to....stated........Horvat had 4 goals in 8 games......and I just pointed out.............that..............that wasn't good enough.
- A_SteamingLombardi

....price,,,,,,less........
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 31 @ 12:28 AM ET
I wonder where Deuce is tonight? He was in here bragging about how they turned the corner.3-1 SENS

golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 12:36 AM ET
I wonder where Deuce is tonight? He was in here bragging about how they turned the corner.3-1 SENS


- VANTEL


Anderson did make 37 saves. How the hell do you focus that much with what's going on at home?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 31 @ 12:37 AM ET
I wonder where Deuce is tonight? He was in here bragging about how they turned the corner.3-1 SENS


- VANTEL


Are there any corners left...? this season seems full of parallels ... with more parity

What does that make the Canucks now...? a bad team for losing to the Sens or a good team that didn't play well enough to win
Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:40 AM ET
Why give Bo more offensive zone starts if his line mates can't put the puck in the net. When it come to Bo don't change a thing.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Seriously, what do you know, it's obvious Bo is miscast, I've read that here so it must be true..
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 31 @ 12:40 AM ET
Anderson did make 37 saves. How the hell do you focus that much with what's going on at home?
- golfingsince



Isn't their D suppose to be outstanding? He said they were.
golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 12:44 AM ET
Isn't their D suppose to be outstanding? He said they were.
- VANTEL


2-0 game with an empty netter. Sens only had 21 shots on goal.

Goalie stole one the way I see it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 31 @ 12:48 AM ET
2-0 game with an empty netter. Sens only had 21 shots on goal.

Goalie stole one the way I see it.

- golfingsince



Well Leafs and Flames are just as bad as Canucks right now

Oilers are playing good
golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 12:59 AM ET
Well Leafs and Flames are just as bad as Canucks right now

Oilers are playing good

- VANTEL


I don't see the Leafs being a good team this year. I think the Flames will be better than us, and are also substantially younger.

This will take a few years Vantel.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 31 @ 1:05 AM ET
I don't see the Leafs being a good team this year. I think the Flames will be better than us, and are also substantially younger.

This will take a few years Vantel.

- golfingsince

Flames haven't proved nothing yet. Highest goals against in the league usually means bad goaltending or bad D
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
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Oct 31 @ 1:10 AM ET
I don't see the Leafs being a good team this year. I think the Flames will be better than us, and are also substantially younger.

This will take a few years Vantel.

- golfingsince



Substantially younger ...hmm...saw some stat that average age of teams relatively close.

Or are you saying their top players are much younger...?

What will take a few years the rebuild as in more draft picks for skill or developing what we have and what is coming ...?
golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 1:12 AM ET
Flames haven't proved nothing yet. Highest goals against in the league usually means bad goaltending or bad D
- VANTEL


No they haven't, yet they beat us in the playoffs amid their rebuild. Hell, we've barely begun. For every young piece we have, they have a better one.
golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 1:18 AM ET
Substantially younger ...hmm...saw some stat that average age of teams relatively close.? Or are you saying their top players are...?

What will take a few years the rebuild as in more draft picks for skill or developing what we have and what is coming ...?

- Nuck4U


Really?

Edler 30, LE 31, Twins 36, Hansen 30

Do you want to take a look at the core pieces on the Flames?

We are substantially older
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
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Oct 31 @ 1:31 AM ET
No they haven't, yet they beat us in the playoffs amid their rebuild. Hell, we've barely begun. For every young piece we have, they have a better one.
- golfingsince


Dragon will tell you that was WD's fault ....
Though they have been at the rebuild for a while .... so the young pieces do look nice over there .... still we took a couple youngish ones away in Baertchi and now Granlund showing more promise could it even out with some of the filler JB has added with these trades including Guddy and Sutty...?

Plus would Stecher and Tree tip it more for Canucks if they develop right ...? Also Hutton he has game too with more growth on the rise.

Well it's something and Bo, JV plus BB and OJ have potential there to go toe to toe with their group....

But I do like their centers and JG is a game breaker ....
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 31 @ 1:36 AM ET
Substantially younger ...hmm...saw some stat that average age of teams relatively close.? Or are you saying their top players are...?



Really?

Edler 30, LE 31, Twins 36, Hansen 30

Do you want to take a look at the core pieces on the Flames?

We are substantially older

- golfingsince


Okay so you are saying top players....

The stat had Canucks getting younger next year with Miller and Burrows out from 28. Something to 27. Something I believe as average age and Flaems were around that too just point something less cause of the Sendins, Le and Edler
golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 1:40 AM ET
Substantially younger ...hmm...saw some stat that average age of teams relatively close.? Or are you saying their top players are...?





Okay so you are saying top players....

The stat had Canucks getting younger next year with Miller and Burrows out from 28. Something to 27. Something I believe as average age and Flaems were around that too just point something less cause of the Sendins, Le and Edler

- Nuck4U


Does it really matter what age the role players are? They are the easiest to find and to draft and develop.

Hell, even a decent starting goalie can be found FA most years.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 31 @ 1:52 AM ET
Does it really matter what age the role players are? They are the easiest to find and to draft and develop.

Hell, even a decent starting goalie can be found FA most years.

- golfingsince


Correct .... I wasn't disagreeing with you .... why Pointed out in bold as point of clarity.

But do we not have a layer of players developing now to take over these top roles?
So that would change that reality.... somewhat.

Of course we are missing top 1lC .... Bo may develop that like Hank did as when he was coming up his label was 2/3 line center .... so you never know .... plus JB may squeeze one out of college or the draft like BB.... sooner then later .... but yeah that's a problem we have now ... some holes and question marks.
golfingsince
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Oct 31 @ 1:57 AM ET
Correct .... I wasn't disagreeing with you .... why Pointed out in bold as point of clarity.

But do we not have a layer of players developing now to take over these top roles?
So that would change that reality.... somewhat.

Of course we are missing top 1lC .... Bo may develop that like Hank did as when he was coming up his label was 2/3 line center .... so you never know .... plus JB may squeeze one out of college or the draft like BB.... sooner then later .... but yeah that's a problem we have now ... some holes and question marks.

- Nuck4U


The problem we have is that we have holes now and more to come. Even with a good draft where we grab say a top line winger, top four future D and a Hansen type (which should be considered an excellent draft) they are likely a few years away and by then we'll have even more holes to plug.

I'm personally targeting 2020 as a year for a return to relevancy.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 31 @ 2:14 AM ET
The problem we have is that we have holes now and more to come. Even with a good draft where we grab say a top line winger, top four future D and a Hansen type (which should be considered an excellent draft) they are likely a few years away and by then we'll have even more holes to plug.

I'm personally targeting 2020 as a year for a return to relevancy.

- golfingsince


That might be likely. But isn't that why JB made his trade and UFA deals and trying to add players like Rodin and Stecher to fill these holes? We don't know if it will work but they are trying to do that as drafting is a slow process like you point out.

But based on above let's identify what the holes are..? 1LC & 1LLW... D1.... what else?
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