Bring back Sestito!!

First of all no one is flipping out or screaming . Discussing a different point of view is not an overreaction .

McIlrath was a free look. Cost nothing, nada.

A big tough 24 yr old that is slow. He played last year in the playoffs . Rangers are a deep team with no room on D.

We have Biega who hasn't played one second this year. What was there to lose by taking a look at him on your team?
- VANTEL

Biega played in the Ducks game and may play tonight

Bring back Sestito!!
- golfingsince

Sbisa's cousin

It seems to me we've seen this ideology before.
- golfingsince

When comments get twisted around you cam make anything seem stupid right?

Same as if I take your comment and twist it to I believe in this ideology .

I said move Biega for for McIlrath

I said I would be in favour of trading Tanev for an upgrade.

But you two want to twist it to let's trade Tanev to make room for McIlrath then have at it.

Bring back Sestito!!
- golfingsince

You're a good poster 👍🏻


(Still not sure what that means but apparently it's funny?)

Nor did I , but part of the problem is this team gets bullied. Keeping the same players around won't change that
- VANTEL

Biega played in the Ducks game and may play tonight
- Nuck4U

True I forgot the night he played as an ineffective forward

Bring back Sestito!!
- golfingsince

Rypien

How's everything guys, what a great morning, woke up with the Mrs beside me, could smell the sea air coming through the open windows, green grass that needs cutting.

Great day today, so how's everything, team still living up to expectations, still all lovey dovey in here?
- Makita

Welcome home boss

Nor did I , but part of the problem is this team gets bullied. Keeping the same players around won't change that
- VANTEL

That's not true.

According to some posters during the preseason, everyone was just going to get better and expecting anything less was just being a negative nelly.

Career years for all!

I honestly thought they played Lucic really well last night and he wasn't that big of a factor. He had the puck stripped multiple times, I liked that Sbisa didn't fight him, we got a pp and it got him off his game.

I don't see why people are upset with last night's game, they limited the best offensive team in the nhl to few chances and would of scored a few with a bit of puck luck.

The same people who were lovimg this team at 4-0 and praising their defensive system are now female doging that they suck?

They played really well last night, in fact I think it was their best game of the season.
- belcherbd

I think it's the shock of realizing the oil might be finally turning that corner and we're laying on the curb begging for scraps.

I still not a fan of the 6 D-men mix we have regardless of how they played in the game last night. I don't see the long term potential in this group. I like Hutton but he's not going to be a difference maker but will be a solid addition to a competitive team. Grabs will be interesting to watch. Tanev, meh. Prospects we'll have to wait and see. That's it right? Not a lot to get excited about.
- bloatedmosquito

D has improved and will keep improving but we don't have a #1 stud D .... OJ may be it but years from now so it's not going to change.

Basically, there are no #1 stud players at any position that's the sad reality and won't change.

We had what one guy Bure in franchise history that's it. Neely we let go too soon that may have been the other one. Bertuzzi for a brief period until he was broken. Other then that we have had elite or some great players but nothing exceptional.

Only way this team is going to win is by committee and that means every one has to chip in every other game no droughts or dry spells or we are stuck in the mud.

When comments get twisted around you cam make anything seem stupid right?

Same as if I take your comment and twist it to I believe in this ideology .

I said move Biega for for McIlrath

I said I would be in favour of trading Tanev for an upgrade.

But you two want to twist it to let's trade Tanev to make room for McIlrath then have at it.
- VANTEL

Please. You always want to get meaner, tougher, bigger.

If we were to bring in McIlrath and move Tanev then who do you think would get a bulk of the ice time? If not Dylan then Pedan or Tree?

How many big Dmen do we need that can't make our top 6 ?

If it were solely to your discretion we'd probably have Tree, Pedan, Guddy, McIlrath, Stetcher and ? because you also want Edler gone.

I don't know why everyone is so pissed, it's been well documented the Canucks aren't a very good team, even if they play well defensively they're a middling team.

They've got a ton of holes to fill, the building has just started, buckle up, because this is gonna be a three to five year run at the bottom half of the league until they draft their way out of it.

Even though Vantel says "the heavy lifting has been done", which is absolutely preposterous, they've got a ton of work to do.

I do agree with you Vantel in that if they're going to be a poop team, at least be a difficult team to play against!

Please. You always want to get meaner, tougher, bigger.

If we were to bring in McIlrath and move Tanev then who do you think would get a bulk of the ice time? If not Dylan then Pedan or Tree?

How many big Dmen do we need that can't make our top 6 ?

If it were solely to your discretion we'd probably have Tree, Pedan, Guddy, McIlrath, Stetcher and ? because you also want Edler gone.
- golfingsince

They don't need McIlrath, just play Pedan & Tryamkin as your third pair.

I don't know why everyone is so pissed, it's been well documented the Canucks aren't a very good team, even if they play well defensively they're a middling team.

They've got a ton of holes to fill, the building has just started, buckle up, because this is gonna be a three to five year run at the bottom half of the league until they draft their way out of it.

Even though Vantel says "the heavy lifting has been done", which is absolutely preposterous, they've got a ton of work to do.

I do agree with you Vantel in that if they're going to be a poop team, at least be a difficult team to play against!
- LeftCoaster

I'm not pissed, they are what they are.

Blaming where they are at on being too soft is ridiculous, a much softer team won the PT and played game 7 of the finals.

They lack talent.

They don't need McIlrath, just play Pedan & Tryamkin as your third pair.
- LeftCoaster

If either is in the lineup, they are nastier on the back end. If both are in the lineup, it should come at the expense of Sbisa.

I'm not pissed, they are what they are.

Blaming where they are at on being too soft is ridiculous, a much softer team won the PT and played game 7 of the finals.

They lack talent.
- golfingsince

It has nothing to do with being soft, it has everything to do with not being talented enough. Those players come from drafting!!

It has nothing to do with being soft, it has everything to do with not being talented enough. Those players come from drafting!!
- LeftCoaster

I agree wholeheartedly. There may be a young guy or two available through trade, but unless we're shipping out vets for prospects then we're creating a hole to plug another.

I'm not pissed, they are what they are.

Blaming where they are at on being too soft is ridiculous, a much softer team won the PT and played game 7 of the finals.

They lack talent.
- golfingsince

Are you talking canucks in 2011? I thought they played an aggressive style that season. Faced big nasty teams in the playoffs and still competed physically against them.

They don't need McIlrath, just play Pedan & Tryamkin as your third pair.
- LeftCoaster

But they are not playing them as our third pair. I would prefer Tryamkin Pedan as our third pair

I agree wholeheartedly. There may be a young guy or two available through trade, but unless we're shipping out vets for prospects then we're creating a hole to plug another.
- golfingsince

Other teams scraps won't put you on the path to success, they'll supplement your own higher end players you draft but it's not like the old days, you've gotta build through the draft and that takes time.....period!

But they are not playing them as our third pair. I would prefer Tryamkin Pedan as our third pair
- VANTEL

I know, I wish they would, but they're still of the belief they can win. Come January they may be singing a different tune.

Are you talking canucks in 2011? I thought they played an aggressive style that season. Faced big nasty teams in the playoffs and still competed physically against them.
- bloatedmosquito

They were a skilled team that didn't back down. Winning does that for you.

Other teams scraps won't put you on the path to success, they'll supplement your own higher end players you draft but it's not like the old days, you've gotta build through the draft and that takes time.....period!
- LeftCoaster

Yes, but the question is 'how much time?'

Is it 4-5 years?
Is it 8-10 years?

Can a management team quicken the pace with shrewd dealings and quality drafting?

I don't know why everyone is so pissed, it's been well documented the Canucks aren't a very good team, even if they play well defensively they're a middling team.

They've got a ton of holes to fill, the building has just started, buckle up, because this is gonna be a three to five year run at the bottom half of the league until they draft their way out of it.

Even though Vantel says "the heavy lifting has been done", which is absolutely preposterous, they've got a ton of work to do.

I do agree with you Vantel in that if they're going to be a poop team, at least be a difficult team to play against!
- LeftCoaster

Sure... but can't hit what you can't catch and this league is getting faster not tougher Scot Stevens Like....

Also the drafting will fall short on expectation if everyone is thinking there are saviors out there like McDavid, Mathews or Laine.... just not realistic.... with this lotto system to picking higher then 4/5 is not easy.... so we'll get talent that needs years of development and support ... which means needing vets and UFA's.