Edler took Tanev's job of blocking shots. Tanev isn't going to score anytime soon. Trade him. Tryamkin is the same as Sergachev in MTL, likes and plays better on his offside. It's a russian thing because i'm pretty sure Markov does it also.
- manvanfan

I agree with trading Tanev. If you can get good value for him absolutely

Juolevi is not playing in the NHL either and he is better than Sbisa Larssen.
- VANTEL

No he's not or he would be playing here.

This is accurate but so is Pedan >Sbisa>Larssen
- VANTEL

They all provide different types of games.

Pedan is the most physical.
Sbisa is the middle ground physical and decent skater.
Larsen is the puck mover.

As you said a puck mover with a stay at home physical D.

I agree with trading Tanev. If you can get good value for him absolutely
- VANTEL

What? Trade Tanev to make room for Mcilrath?

I agree with trading Tanev. If you can get good value for him absolutely
- VANTEL

IF he could ever stay healthy! It frees up contract money or maybe gets someone who can help score. Man Taylor Hall would be nice right now!

I care about winning.

Pecan and Tryamkin provide that threat of coming into vans zone. They told Larsen he would get a chance that's why he's out there.

As for forwards Henrik, Daniel, Sven, Loui, Granlund, Hansen, Sutter, Burrows are all less 1 hit per game.

Kassian, Lucic, Maroon all credited with 4 hits each last night.

I actually thought Megna was having an effective 4th liner game last night. Good on the forecheck. Credited with 4 hits in 6 minutes of ice time.
- manvanfan

What does that tell you

IF he could ever stay healthy! It frees up contract money or maybe gets someone who can help score. Man Taylor Hall would be nice right now!
- manvanfan

Point a game guy. That's what we need.

What does that tell you
- VanHockeyGuy

That Van was missing 6'5" Pedan and 6'7" Tryamkin. 6'5" Joseph Labate.

The grass is always greener looking from a distance till you get an up close look and maybe it isn't so green. Lol sorry don't know how to put it any other way but I agree with you.

There hasn't been any on waivers so far this season that I would like. If things don't go right this year then I would suggest a change over in some roster player because clearly adding to the core of the team isn't helping it win.
- manvanfan

First of all no one is flipping out or screaming . Discussing a different point of view is not an overreaction .

McIlrath was a free look. Cost nothing, nada.

A big tough 24 yr old that is slow. He played last year in the playoffs . Rangers are a deep team with no room on D.

We have Biega who hasn't played one second this year. What was there to lose by taking a look at him on your team?

Play burrows with the twins tonight see if he can make them score

No he's not or he would be playing here.
- Marwood

Burrows plays here too and he stinks . I would take Boeser over him .

If we had real NHL bottom players here Burrows Larssen And Sbisa would be out of a job

Burrows plays here too and he stinks . I would take Boeser over him .

If we had real NHL bottom players here Burrows Larssen And Sbisa would be out of a job
- VANTEL

Larsen has triple the points of anyone else on our blue line doesn't help he's -5

First of all no one is flipping out or screaming . Discussing a different point of view is not an overreaction .

McIlrath was a free look. Cost nothing, nada.

A big tough 24 yr old that is slow. He played last year in the playoffs . Rangers are a deep team with no room on D.

We have Biega who hasn't played one second this year. What was there to lose by taking a look at him on your team?
- VANTEL

I didn't say they were.

Burrows plays here too and he stinks . I would take Boeser over him .

If we had real NHL bottom players here Burrows Larssen And Sbisa would be out of a job
- VANTEL

Burrows contract is up, Sbisa could be a buy out. Larsen's contract will be up. Another year of fill in's until prospects can gain experience.

First of all no one is flipping out or screaming . Discussing a different point of view is not an overreaction .

McIlrath was a free look. Cost nothing, nada.

A big tough 24 yr old that is slow. He played last year in the playoffs . Rangers are a deep team with no room on D.

We have Biega who hasn't played one second this year. What was there to lose by taking a look at him on your team?
- VANTEL

He costs a roster spot, cap space and a contract. None of those are nada.

First of all no one is flipping out or screaming . Discussing a different point of view is not an overreaction .

McIlrath was a free look. Cost nothing, nada.

A big tough 24 yr old that is slow. He played last year in the playoffs . Rangers are a deep team with no room on D.

We have Biega who hasn't played one second this year. What was there to lose by taking a look at him on your team?
- VANTEL

I guess Benning's rationale is he currently has better players on the team.

I care about winning.

Pecan and Tryamkin provide that threat of coming into vans zone. They told Larsen he would get a chance that's why he's out there.

As for forwards Henrik, Daniel, Sven, Loui, Granlund, Hansen, Sutter, Burrows are all less 1 hit per game.

Kassian, Lucic, Maroon all credited with 4 hits each last night.

I actually thought Megna was having an effective 4th liner game last night. Good on the forecheck. Credited with 4 hits in 6 minutes of ice time.
- manvanfan

I always get mad at the TV when I watch Hank or Dank get yet another hooking or holding penalty because they can't finish a check to save their lives.

The roster still needs a bit of team toughness.

What? Trade Tanev to make room for Mcilrath?
- Marwood

Cmon never even came close to saying that.

Two different subjects

He costs a roster spot, cap space and a contract. None of those are nada.
- Marwood

and how has Biega contributed so far?

For a team that lacks Depth on D and has a struggling farm system Biega could have been sent down while McIlrath sees if he can earn a spot here.

I always get mad at the TV when I watch Hank or Dank get yet another hooking or holding penalty because they can't finish a check to save their lives.

The roster still needs a bit of team toughness.
- bloatedmosquito

Henrik is much more physical then Daniel. I noticed last night that when Van did get in on the forecheck and henrik would bump into a D that there was some sustained pressure. Times they skated by it seemed to be an easy out for the oilers D. Not even a "hit" just more like shock because the Sedins didn't just skate by. Same for a lot of other van's forwards.

I guess Benning's rationale is he currently has better players on the team.
- VanHockeyGuy

Bennings rational also sent Stecher down over Larssen . Who is really the better of the two?

Here is a recent quote from ARI GM John Chayka. The ironic thing is that's exactly what JB & Co are doing right now. Let's see how that works for ya boys!

“My urgency isn’t looking externally at this point,” he said. “My urgency is looking internally and what are we doing. How are we doing it? And how do we make it better? And at the same time, supporting our players. It’s frustrating. It’s not fun for anybody but just making sure everyone’s on the same page and pulling the right direction and doing what they can and a soon as everyone is playing the way they can and focusing on their own games, then we’ll be successful.”

I honestly thought they played Lucic really well last night and he wasn't that big of a factor. He had the puck stripped multiple times, I liked that Sbisa didn't fight him, we got a pp and it got him off his game.

I don't see why people are upset with last night's game, they limited the best offensive team in the nhl to few chances and would of scored a few with a bit of puck luck.

The same people who were lovimg this team at 4-0 and praising their defensive system are now female doging that they suck?

They played really well last night, in fact I think it was their best game of the season.
- belcherbd

I think it's the shock of realizing the oil might be finally turning that corner and we're laying on the curb begging for scraps.

I still not a fan of the 6 D-men mix we have regardless of how they played in the game last night. I don't see the long term potential in this group. I like Hutton but he's not going to be a difference maker but will be a solid addition to a competitive team. Grabs will be interesting to watch. Tanev, meh. Prospects we'll have to wait and see. That's it right? Not a lot to get excited about.

Bennings rational also sent Stecher down over Larssen . Who is really the better of the two?
- VANTEL

I still think he needs help/guidance, a senior VP that knows hockey management.

He costs a roster spot, cap space and a contract. None of those are nada.
- Marwood

He cost 200 K more than Biega who is currently occupying an unused roster spot , and we have unused contracts

He had in 34 games last year 2 goals 2 assists 64 PIM and was plus 7 . That would have been third best on Canucks