Not talking about running around looking for a hit, but finishing your hit. Doesn't need to be a thundering hit, just to jar the D a bit.
- manvanfan

I wasn't talking about the thunder hit. If you go looking for it that's exactly what will get you a penalty or injured.

I remember when Hamhuis went for that hip check on Lucic. Almost broke his own back trying to complete it. If you are going to try that on players like Milan then you have to meet that force with an equal or greater force if you want to be effective.

I would love to see Larssen try that move on Milan. He would implode.

I wasn't taking about the thunder hit. If you go looking for it that's exactly what will get you a penalty or injured.

I remember when Hamhuis went for that hip check on Lucic. Almost broke his own back trying to complete it. If you are going to try that on players like Milan then you have to meet that force with an equal or greater force if you want to be effective.

I would love to see Larssen try that move on Milan. He would implode.
- bloatedmosquito

I would classify a hip check as a thundering hit. I'm talking bump the guy of his stride. 50/50 on a guy like Lucic it will work. That's better then watching him carry the puck into their own end without trouble.

I understand what you are saying.

Rangers have a very deep blue line. Their scraps may be better than our third pairing.

We basically have an AHL third pair D.
- VANTEL

It could be worse. You could have an AHL bottom 4 on D.

https://vimeo.com/189402803

A buddy made this commercial.
- Scooby_Doo

Utica are doing worse then the canucks this season.

It could be worse. You could have an AHL bottom 4 on D.


- Aetherial

Are you talking Matt Hunwick?

I would classify a hip check as a thundering hit. I'm talking bump the guy of his stride. 50/50 on a guy like Lucic it will work. That's better then watching him carry the puck into their own end without trouble.
- manvanfan

The reason lucic can carry the puck in without impediment is because our players are terrified of him. The canucks still don't have an answer for that type of player.

There are many players now that have no trouble playing through the bumps and the clutching. Twins are a perfect example.

Yes I agree that the neutral zone bump, clutch and grab is the best way to eliminate threats, but that's so (frank)ing boring to watch. I think the threat of being creamed when you enter the offensive zone is an effective way of slowing the opposing team's attach.

Utica are doing worse then the canucks this season.
- manvanfan

One of Benning's strengths (and successes according to many here) is creating organizational depth. Thank god eh.

I don't think you can ask a player who is not physical to start playing physical. There's a skill in being an effective physical player. Running around and just hitting people will not get your team anywhere other than the penalty box.

There must be a better alternative out there than Larssen.
- bloatedmosquito

Sbisa Larssen is no better than Bartowski Weber last year. You can't go out and repeat that this year

I was never a Paris Hilton fan, found her to be annoying, but she's really growing on me.

The reason lucic can carry the puck in without impediment is because our players are terrified of him. The canucks still don't have an answer for that type of player.

There are many players now that have no trouble playing through the bumps and the clutching. Twins are a perfect example.

Yes I agree that the neutral zone bump, clutch and grab is the best way to eliminate threats, but that's so (frank)ing boring to watch. I think the threat of being creamed when you enter the offensive zone is an effective way of slowing the opposing team's attach.
- bloatedmosquito

I care about winning.

Pecan and Tryamkin provide that threat of coming into vans zone. They told Larsen he would get a chance that's why he's out there.

As for forwards Henrik, Daniel, Sven, Loui, Granlund, Hansen, Sutter, Burrows are all less 1 hit per game.

Kassian, Lucic, Maroon all credited with 4 hits each last night.

I actually thought Megna was having an effective 4th liner game last night. Good on the forecheck. Credited with 4 hits in 6 minutes of ice time.

One of Benning's strengths (and successes according to many here) is creating organizational depth. Thank god eh.
- bloatedmosquito

It looked good during pre season.

The reason lucic can carry the puck in without impediment is because our players are terrified of him. The canucks still don't have an answer for that type of player.

There are many players now that have no trouble playing through the bumps and the clutching. Twins are a perfect example.

Yes I agree that the neutral zone bump, clutch and grab is the best way to eliminate threats, but that's so (frank)ing boring to watch. I think the threat of being creamed when you enter the offensive zone is an effective way of slowing the opposing team's attach.
- bloatedmosquito

I honestly thought they played Lucic really well last night and he wasn't that big of a factor. He had the puck stripped multiple times, I liked that Sbisa didn't fight him, we got a pp and it got him off his game.

I don't see why people are upset with last night's game, they limited the best offensive team in the nhl to few chances and would of scored a few with a bit of puck luck.

The same people who were lovimg this team at 4-0 and praising their defensive system are now female doging that they suck?

They played really well last night, in fact I think it was their best game of the season.

The reason lucic can carry the puck in without impediment is because our players are terrified of him. The canucks still don't have an answer for that type of player.

There are many players now that have no trouble playing through the bumps and the clutching. Twins are a perfect example.

Yes I agree that the neutral zone bump, clutch and grab is the best way to eliminate threats, but that's so (frank)ing boring to watch. I think the threat of being creamed when you enter the offensive zone is an effective way of slowing the opposing team's attach.
- bloatedmosquito

Would Lucic bully the Dman last night if it was Pedan or McIlrath instead of Sbisa?

Lucic picks his spots.

Having a big stay at home Dman paired with a smaller faster player works well such as Guddy and Hutton.

If he is really bad let him play bottom pair with Tanev and expose him for the expansion draft .

Sbisa Larssen is no better than Bartowski Weber last year. You can't go out and repeat that this year
- VANTEL

You have a short memory if you think that's the case, they lost 1-0 on a breakdown on the fastest and arguably best player in the NHL.

The D did a pretty good job last night.

Always so negative Vantel

Would Lucic bully the Dman last night if it was Pedan or McIlrath instead of Sbisa?

Lucic picks his spots.

Having a big stay at home Dman paired with a smaller faster player works well such as Guddy and Hutton.

If he is really bad let him play bottom pair with Tanev and expose him for the expansion draft .
- VANTEL

You have a short memory if you think that's the case, they lost 1-0 on a breakdown on the fastest and arguably best player in the NHL.

The D did a pretty good job last night.

Always so negative Vantel
- belcherbd

They did play well last night, Granlund scores in the second period and that's a changed game. They haven't be out of any game this year really. Most of the time the other team scores on their good chances where as Van does not.

It's the season as a whole though, wins and losses. Sadly, will never be super happy till they win the presidents trophy again.

- Marwood

If he was any good at all or any team saw any potential, he would have been claimed. He wasn't. I'd say Pedan is equal to him.

You have a short memory if you think that's the case, they lost 1-0 on a breakdown on the fastest and arguably best player in the NHL.

The D did a pretty good job last night.

Always so negative Vantel
- belcherbd

Just the opposite Eyore.

I see lots of positives with half the roster. Unfortanely I don't find many positives about Sbisa and Larssen.

I see a good future with Hutton EG Stecher Juolevi.

I would like to upgrade on two very servicable Dmen Tanev and Edler. And I also want to throw out the garbage the bottom pair,

Edler Stecher
Hutton Guddy
Tryamkin Tanev

Would be much better

If he was any good at all or any team saw any potential, he would have been claimed. He wasn't. I'd say Pedan is equal to him.
- manvanfan

Like I said earlier, you know your team is sh*t when people are freaking over the waiver scraps that the Canucks didn't pick up. Probably the same people that scream about 'asset management'.

If he was any good at all or any team saw any potential, he would have been claimed. He wasn't. I'd say Pedan is equal to him.
- manvanfan

This is accurate but so is Pedan >Sbisa>Larssen

Just the opposite Eyore.

I see lots of positives with half the roster. Unfortanely I don't find many positives about Sbisa and Larssen.

I see a good future with Hutton EG Stecher Juolevi.

I would like to upgrade on two very servicable Dmen Tanev and Edler. And I also want to throw out the garbage the bottom pair,

Edler Stecher
Hutton Guddy
Tryamkin Tanev

Would be much better
- VANTEL

Edler took Tanev's job of blocking shots. Tanev isn't going to score anytime soon. Trade him. Tryamkin is the same as Sergachev in MTL, likes and plays better on his offside. It's a russian thing because i'm pretty sure Markov does it also.

This is accurate but so is Pedan >Sbisa>Larssen
- VANTEL

Yet he's not playing in the NHL.

Like I said earlier, you know your team is sh*t when people are freaking over the waiver scraps that the Canucks didn't pick up. Probably the same people that scream about 'asset management'.
- Marwood

The grass is always greener looking from a distance till you get an up close look and maybe it isn't so green. Lol sorry don't know how to put it any other way but I agree with you.

There hasn't been any on waivers so far this season that I would like. If things don't go right this year then I would suggest a change over in some roster player because clearly adding to the core of the team isn't helping it win.

Yet he's not playing in the NHL.
- Marwood

Juolevi is not playing in the NHL either and he is better than Sbisa Larssen.