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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:00 AM ET
did nothing happen to that kulikov guy ?
- -davies-


NHL told him not to do it again then let him go play with his new train set
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:00 AM ET
Last night was the first time thoughts crossed my mind that this team may seriously consider moving Giroux at the deadline.
- MBFlyerfan


There's just no way Hextall is thinking of forcing his 1C and captain out of town.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
He may have, he may have not. Unless someone who was in the room discloses what he voiced, you can't know for sure. Anyone who says otherwise is just blind guessing.
- jmatchett383



Exactly my point.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
I don't know if we are if we keep him.

In a couple years Simmonds is going to need an extension and he is on a prime deal right now for what he brings.

Also you'll have some younger guys like Provorov and Konecny needing deals.

I think we will see a guy go that people are surprised about.

- J35Bacher


Should of Trayden Schenn
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
You keep saying this but there is no proof either way. So why argue it?
- dragonoffrost



Simple, because posters are speculating that Hextall was against the move.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nothing deserved to happen.
- dragonoffrost


didn't seem much different than the weise hit to me
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
I agree completely, and that's really my point, although I didn't word that as well as you did to get that point across. We don't know.
- MJL

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I put it out there because I've been inferring for a while that it's more likely Hextall was on board than against.

I don't think there's any reason to see it that way. I think Holmgren felt he was making his club better and leaving it in a better position by getting an NHL defenseman under contract. If Hextall did dissent, there's no doubt in my mind he wanted that information kept strictly in the GM's office. We know tight he can be with internal information like that.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
I agree, the GM has final say, but I disagree that it's overstated on how much influence an assistant GM has. I think the assistant GM, scouts, and player personnel people have a big influence on the GM's decisions.
- MJL


Of all the arguments in here, this might be the dumbest
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
I don't know if we are if we keep him.

In a couple years Simmonds is going to need an extension and he is on a prime deal right now for what he brings.

Also you'll have some younger guys like Provorov and Konecny needing deals.

I think we will see a guy go that people are surprised about.

- J35Bacher


Simmonds will be a 31 year old winger. He's much more likely to be traded than the guy with the NMC.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
NHL told him not to do it again then let him go play with his new train set
- PhillySportsGuy



who gave him the train set ??
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
I don't know if we are if we keep him.

In a couple years Simmonds is going to need an extension and he is on a prime deal right now for what he brings.

Also you'll have some younger guys like Provorov and Konecny needing deals.

I think we will see a guy go that people are surprised about.

- J35Bacher


Streit's deal coming off the books,, maybe Weise gets claimed by LV, Gordon is expendable. There will be options
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
Simple, because posters are speculating that Hextall was against the move.
- MJL


It's not wrong to speculate, is it? You can speculate differently if you want, but I don't think anyone has stated factually that Hextall was 100% against (or for ) it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
Streit's deal coming off the books,, maybe Weise gets claimed by LV, Gordon is expendable. There will be options
- Mordecai


And Mason will only have the numbers for a $2m extension.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
who gave him the train set ??
- -davies-


Colin Campbell
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
Simmonds will be a 31 year old winger. He's much more likely to be traded than the guy with the NMC.
- Feanor



I love his game. But man he could be the ultimate trade chip with the contract he is on and his age.

I think there would be a lot of teams interested in him.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 11:06 AM ET
He may have, he may have not. Unless someone who was in the room discloses what he voiced, you can't know for sure. Anyone who says otherwise is just blind guessing.
- jmatchett383


No one else was in the room where it happened
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:06 AM ET
No one else was in the room where it happened
- Scoob


Hextall just screamed at the wall? And yet somehow wasn't in the room?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
Let me put it this way.

If we trade Giroux the only realistic option is a full scale rebuild. Which means all of the time and resources put into retooling the current roster was pretty much for nothing. It just doesn't make sense right now. Especially after signing G and Jake to those deals.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
who gave him the train set ??
- -davies-


Not Wayne! Wayne would never let him play with his train set
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Oct 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
I made one change.
- Feanor


Agreed, when healthy, I'd prefer the bottom 6 and D pairings look like this.

Raffl-Cousins-Read
Lyubimov-PEB/Gordon-Weise


MDZ-Ghost
Streit-Gudas
Manning-Provorov
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
I agree, the GM has final say, but I disagree that it's overstated on how much influence an assistant GM has. I think the assistant GM, scouts, and player personnel people have a big influence on the GM's decisions.
- MJL


Of course they do. The GM makes, and owns, the final decision, but to think that his staff doesn't influence the decision is naive.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
Of all the arguments in here, this might be the dumbest
- PhillySportsGuy


um, first, are you new here? Second, he's right.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
Hextall just screamed at the wall? And yet somehow wasn't in the room?
- jmatchett383


I didn't say Hextall was alone in the room.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
I didn't say Hextall was alone in the room.
- Scoob


Then...how was there no one else in the room?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
who gave him the train set ??
- -davies-

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