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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 28 @ 9:32 AM ET
I found a christmas gift for Giroux

http://www.dudeiwantthat....ing/slap-it-butt-lamp.asp

- Streit2ThePoint


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 9:32 AM ET
Lots of Flyers D in the top 50 here, with Streit just missing at #53.

Yay team

http://www.sportingcharts...giveaways-statistic/2016/
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:40 AM ET
You are misinformed again. Already on the record stating that MacDonald had an awful game last night, and that I would take him out for Schultz.
- MJL


Hey, that's super.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:43 AM ET
I'm just gonna come out and say what everyone else is thinking:

We lost this game because Hakstol refuses to take Chris Vandevelde out of the lineup.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 9:43 AM ET
AMac really is probably our only chance at getting cap compliant when the IR's end.

For all the talk of being out of cap hell we sure had to use LTIR pretty early.

- dragonoffrost


Using LTIR when you have month-long injuries is not a big deal. Demoting Laughton and MacDonald in a few days will get the team under the cap ceiling with a 23 man roster.

Cap hell is losing a prospect like Teravainen in order to send a contract like Bickell to Carolina.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:46 AM ET
AMac really is probably our only chance at getting cap compliant when the IR's end.

For all the talk of being out of cap hell we sure had to use LTIR pretty early.

- dragonoffrost


You do realize that they were saddled with long term injuries (not to mention 2 suspensions) to start the season, right?
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Oct 28 @ 9:48 AM ET
My observations from last night...feel free to disagree with it all.

- Macdonald - Gostisbehere pairing is bad right now. Also I think Gostisbehere needs to let the game come to him a little. He seems to be forcing a lot of plays.

- I know Simmonds scored but for most of the game I think he didn't do much. Seems to be in one of those streaks of average to below average play

- Thought Schenn had a good game. Liked Cousins back in the middle. He seems more engaged and effective.

- 1st PP is stale. I think a little change, even if for a game or two would be nice to give different looks.

- Again another soft goal. Seems both goalies aren't on top of there game right now. Mason has been better but still haven't seen a full 60 minute game from our goalies.

- MacDonald = Not so good.

- J35Bacher


Not trying to troll by any means, but based on last night's performance I think you summed it up perfectly.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:49 AM ET
Not trying to troll by any means, but based on last night's performance I think you summed it up perfectly.
- Crushers68


You smell like a hoagie.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 9:50 AM ET
I think that some folks here should send their resumes to the Flyers front office pronto.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 9:51 AM ET
I think that some folks here should send their resumes to the Flyers front office pronto.
- Scoob


- Bench AMac
- Trade Mason for 3rd liners and late picks
- Bench VDV
- Remind AMac that he is benched
- Buy fancy new car
- Take a long dump
- Proclaim victory
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 28 @ 9:52 AM ET
Matt Read sucks
- Streit2ThePoint

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
Just send MacDonald back to the Phantoms and be done with it.
Holmgren gave a 6 year 30 million dollar contract to a minor leaguer. Can't make it up. In the future a rule of thumb should be coaching/front office positions should not go to guys who have been punched in the head 1000 times.

- PLindbergh31


If someone asked me what you were like, I would show them this post
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 28 @ 9:56 AM ET
You do realize that they were saddled with long term injuries (not to mention 2 suspensions) to start the season, right?
- jmatchett383


I realize the suspensions and injuries happened and at least we didn't get caught as bad as Los Angeles did a few years ago when the had to dress only 19 players. But still for all the talk of this team being good cap wise it's still not optimum.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 10:01 AM ET
I realize the suspensions and injuries happened and at least we didn't get caught as bad as Los Angeles did a few years ago when the had to dress only 19 players. But still for all the talk of this team being good cap wise it's still not optimum.
- dragonoffrost


No, it's not optimum because they're not $1 above the cap floor. But it's not as dire as it was even a year ago.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 28 @ 10:02 AM ET
I still can't quite believe they lost. And to a goal by Ryan White and his stupid hippie haircut.

Has anyone run the numbers on how the Flyers have done recently on nights with delayed starts due to ceremonies?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 28 @ 10:03 AM ET
In all honesty, that's not how an NHL front office works. A good executive doesn't want yes men, and those who won't express their opinion, due to not wanting to be disrespectful. If Hextall was that way, he wouldn't be the GM today. I think it's a false narrative to believe that Hextall wasn't in favor of the deal.
- MJL

He may have voiced an opinion and been overruled by his boss. My point was that he may have not felt that signing or not signing AMac wasn't a big enough issue to make a stand on. It does not mean that he was fully in favor of the deal
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 10:06 AM ET
He may have voiced an opinion and been overruled by his boss. My point was that he may have not felt that signing or not signing AMac wasn't a big enough issue to make a stand on. It does not mean that he was fully in favor of the deal
- BiggE


Hey, have you ever worked for an NHL front office? If not, then you don't know how these things work.

As assistant GM, if your views differ from that of the GM, he is obligated to do what you prefer. In reality, the GM has to make sure that any move he wants to make gets full approval from his assistant.

These are facts.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 28 @ 10:09 AM ET
Hey, have you ever worked for an NHL front office? If not, then you don't know how these things work.

As assistant GM, if your views differ from that of the GM, he is obligated to do what you prefer. In reality, the GM has to make sure that any move he wants to make gets full approval from his assistant.

These are facts.

- jmatchett383


Those are your opinionated facts
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:09 AM ET
I think that some folks here should send their resumes to the Flyers front office pronto.
- Scoob


Bench VDV
Kill AMac
Trade Schultz
Trade Streit
Trade MDZ
Clone Voracek
Clone Provorov
Clone Ghost
Rejoice with the five Stanley Cups that I just won
Receive Nobel Prize for mastery of hockey management
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 10:09 AM ET
I'm just gonna come out and say what everyone else is thinking:

We lost this game because Hakstol refuses to take Chris Vandevelde out of the lineup.

- jmatchett383


Vandevelde Killed Harambe right after he did 9/11.
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Oct 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
Just getting to the highlights now. That goal did suck but also how does the previous one stand? If chychrun instigates the fight and a penalty is being called on him and ari has the puck then it's supposed to be blown down. Did they say he scored before the fight? What a bizarre game
- Hextall271


I was there and probably 3/4 of the arena had no idea a goal was scored. We all watched Schenn's big hit then the fight, then it was over and the refs were huddled up and we're all looking around like what's going on? A few people said Arizona scored and we were all really confused. I'm not sure how it wasn't blown dead but I guess he scored before the fight? I don't know, it was really strange. Rough game.

Also, what's up with Hak not pulling Mason until a minute left??? They were in Arizona's end with almost 2 minutes left, down by 2, and Mason is just standing in the net, not even halfway to the bench! We were screaming in the seats to pull him. Then we score with 14 seconds left but by then it's too late. What the (frank) was that all about!!!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
Bench VDV
Kill AMac
Trade Schultz
Trade Streit
Trade MDZ
Clone Voracek
Clone Provorov
Clone Ghost
Rejoice with the five Stanley Cups that I just won
Receive Nobel Prize for mastery of hockey management

- mickel25


Not one "Fire Stevens" or "Trade Carter"?

You guys are slipping.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
If someone asked me what you were like, I would show them this post
- PhillySportsGuy

I remember when you did this same post, but much less tame. Good times.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 28 @ 10:13 AM ET
I still can't quite believe they lost. And to a goal by Ryan White and his stupid hippie haircut.

- Feanor


I wasn't as disgusted with this goal as I was with the Dan Carcillo goal in the playoffs against NYR a few years back, but it was still a pretty nauseating goal.

White had no right to score that goal from there.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:13 AM ET
Not one "Fire Stevens" or "Trade Carter"?

You guys are slipping.

- johndewar


That's Phase II. Phase II also ends with five more Cups and this time a Grammy for excellence in hockey managery.
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