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Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Oct 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
Is two assists and no goals in 7 games considered elite?

Asking for a friend from Chicago.

http://www.eliteprospects...om/player.php?player=8792

- Feanor



arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
I can't remember how old I was when the Preds, Wild, Jackets and whoever the other team was entered the league but I feel exactly the same. I see an opportunity an advantage for the Flyers this coming summer. We lose older players at the right time this summer and I feel like whoever we lose at the draft will be someone we can shrug off. I like Raffl, I don't love him. I like Read, I don't love him. I like Weise so far but I don't love him. Even if they take Laughton, I'll be fine. I think once he's activated from LTIR, I think he's getting sent down. Even if he isn't, it's sad we expect him to be a 4th player. The players we need protected will get protected.
- SuperSchennBros


I see the opportunity too. And it's nice knowing that our team is arguably one of the better teams ready / shaped for the expansion draft. One less headache for us all. And if any of those players are taken, we have guys like Leier, NAK, Lindblom knocking on the door which is even more exciting
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 4:27 PM ET
I watched the Walking Dead, and a small part of me wasn't sure if I was watching JoeRussomanno or Negan. I can't separate the two anymore.
- Mononoke


lol

JoeR swings a virtual bat
Negan swings an actual bat
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 28 @ 4:28 PM ET
Is two assists and no goals in 7 games considered elite?

Asking for a friend from Chicago.

http://www.eliteprospects...om/player.php?player=8792

- Feanor


Giroux is -6 and Toews is +2. Clearly one is actually helping his team win. Points aren't everything after all.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 28 @ 4:29 PM ET
lol

JoeR swings a virtual bat
Negan swings an actual bat

- Scoob


They actually used a real bat and character replicas/prosthetics. Made one for every character who was kneeling.



Wait I'm still an idiot
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 28 @ 4:31 PM ET
Is two assists and no goals in 7 games considered elite?

Asking for a friend from Chicago.

http://www.eliteprospects...om/player.php?player=8792

- Feanor

except he's lead teams to multiple stanley cups nice try though
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
lol

JoeR swings a virtual bat
Negan swings an actual bat

- Scoob


I can absolutely see him logging on for the day, saying this to himself:

"We pissin' our pants yet? Boy, do I have a feeling we're getting close. Yep. Gonna be Pee-Pee-Pants City here real soon."
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 28 @ 4:34 PM ET
except he's lead teams to multiple stanley cups nice try though
- 2Real


I can absolutely see you logging on for the day, saying this to yourself:

"I can't be the only who thinks Little Joe has a tight ass. Daaaaamn."
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 4:36 PM ET
Giroux is -6 and Toews is +2. Clearly one is actually helping his team win. Points aren't everything after all.
- Mononoke


Were I starting a team today and I had to choose between those two as my first pick I'd have a really hard time choosing.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 4:37 PM ET
I can absolutely see him logging on for the day, saying this to himself:

"We pissin' our pants yet? Boy, do I have a feeling we're getting close. Yep. Gonna be Pee-Pee-Pants City here real soon."

- Mononoke


lol
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 4:40 PM ET
Bruins want Mason (s5)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 4:42 PM ET
lol

JoeR swings a virtual bat
Negan swings an actual bat

- Scoob


Who is Negan?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 4:43 PM ET
Who is Negan?
- jmatchett383


Kramer's friend
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 28 @ 4:43 PM ET
Who is Negan?
- jmatchett383


Who's Deanna?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 4:46 PM ET
Who's Deanna?
- Mononoke


lol!

very well played, sir
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 28 @ 4:48 PM ET
Whoever said that Giroux needs to stop playing so much on the perimeter is spot-on. Tbf, Giroux is one of the best perimeter players in the NHL with passing skills to embarrass anyone. On the PP that's fine, that's his role, but you almost never see him go to the net for redirects or quick one touch shots or just finding chances in the slot at ES. He gets his nose dirty along the boards, so it's not an unwillingness and we know he's tough as nails. But how often do you really see Giroux himself in high scoring chance areas? He's feeding the puck there, but rarely goes there himself. He could stand to drive the middle more with and without the puck. The Old Adventures of New Matt Read needs to show Giroux the way.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
I see the opportunity too. And it's nice knowing that our team is arguably one of the better teams ready / shaped for the expansion draft. One less headache for us all. And if any of those players are taken, we have guys like Leier, NAK, Lindblom knocking on the door which is even more exciting
- arichardson22



So what is the protection rules to the draft? I heard 7 forwards, 3 Defense and 1 goalie? Plus one season players and prospects are safe?
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Oct 28 @ 5:09 PM ET
Why is the Carnival so early this year? I'm out of the loop in the desert.

Home opener of the AHL team here in Tucson tonight. I'm volunteering with the AHL to do off ice stuff. Goal judge tonight. Looking forward to it. We will see if this fickle ass town will care about anything other than college football/basketball.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 28 @ 5:25 PM ET
Waive MacDonald.

Manning - Provorov
Gudas - Gostisbehere
Morin - Del Zotto

Streit/Schultz, one 7th dman the other works concessions in isle 128

- J35Bacher

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 5:33 PM ET
Why is the Carnival so early this year? I'm out of the loop in the desert.


- FloHaake


Due to schedule issues caused by WCoH. Later season start = crunched schedule = no viable dates in February
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 5:57 PM ET
I'm not sure how this invalidates what others have said though, Bill. If your boss gives you a project to work on, you're going to work on it, personal opinions aside. I'm sure he did work on negotiations, as part of his job, but that doesn't prove or disprove that he was gung-ho about it. I think that Hextall deserves some blame for that contract, and his total absolving is more wishful thinking. But it's such a weird contract that flies in the face of everything he has done at GM. He hasn't made panic signings, he's been incredibly deliberate and patient, he's recognized the rebuild, it took him all of 1 year to just send AMac down to the AHL. It's just so unlike Hextall in his tenure as GM. And it was so very very much like Holmgren to sign a FA (to be) to a bloated contract to contend NOW, ignoring any warning signs.

There were articles at the time of Hextall's promotion saying Homer had all intentions of continuing on as GM, but Mr. Snider convinced him to take on his current role due to rumors of Hextall being hired as GM elsewhere, like Washington. For all we know, had everything gone to plan, Hextall may not have been GM for another couple years. The timeline got accelerated.

- Mononoke


This is a bad comparison. Being an assistant GM is about giving your opinions, and giving that input to the GM, in player evaluations. It's not complete this task whether you like it or not, that one may encounter in a different line of work.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 28 @ 6:10 PM ET
This is a bad comparison. Being an assistant GM is about giving your opinions, and giving that input to the GM, in player evaluations. It's not complete this task whether you like it or not, that one may encounter in a different line of work.
- MJL


No, actually it's a good comparison. Hextall wasn't a lackey -- and their relationship was assuredly friendly, not authoritative -- but he still had a boss. And I'm sure he voiced his opinion. But if the boss overrides you (which we don't know happened), Hextall still has to help Homer get the best deal he can, disagree with it or not. In the end, it absolutely is his job to help complete the task. He can't disagree and then take a vacation for a couple weeks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 6:19 PM ET
No, actually it's a good comparison. Hextall wasn't a lackey -- and their relationship was assuredly friendly, not authoritative -- but he still had a boss. And I'm sure he voiced his opinion. But if the boss overrides you (which we don't know happened), Hextall still has to help Homer get the best deal he can, disagree with it or not. In the end, it absolutely is his job to help complete the task. He can't disagree and then take a vacation for a couple weeks.
- Mononoke


It's a lousy comparison, and it's really built on the tired narrative that Holmgren sucked as a GM, and the deal was against Hextall's wishes. I think the input of subordinates is more of a factor than many want to admit. It's also possible that Hextall was the driving force behind the entire deal. We don't know.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 28 @ 6:34 PM ET
I feel better when I express negatives of the team as the torture me in the game.

Expressing yourself is good no? Society so confusing...

Only express emotions y'all agree with?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 6:40 PM ET
Wtf is it with these guys?
- Just5


Nobody knows
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