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arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
I would in a heart beat.

If they got Trouba I think you have your top pair for the next 7 years with Trouba and Provorov.

- J35Bacher


I know you would haha, and he really would be a great help for us for many years. That pair would be magical
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:54 PM ET
Sounds like screwed except that guy counts as the selection from your team.

Time to start looking for RFA's that aren't exempt from the draft?

OH (frank) sign Ghost now Hexy!

- dragonoffrost


Ghost will be on the protected list.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
and what would you give up for Trouba and what kind of contract would you offer? gotta think both will be very costly
- nastyflyergirl


I would do Sanheim and 2nd to start the conversation and then go from there.

I think if you got Trouba he would sign right around where Linholm did. I just think he wants out of Winnipeg. I think reports of him wanting 7 million or so is just because he is in Winnipeg. He gets to another team I think he'll sing around Linholm or Ristalinan
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
and what would you give up for Trouba and what kind of contract would you offer? gotta think both will be very costly
- nastyflyergirl


Well that's really the issue. You have to give up hard assets plus figure out your cap. While not the same impact player or quite as young, you could just keep MDZ without giving up any assets.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Hexy as assistant GM helped negotiate that deal in the first place. So, yes, he was absolutely on board with it.
- bmeltzer

Oh well, guess AMac fooled em all
😢😢
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
Oh well, guess AMac fooled em all
😢😢

- BiggE


"Wow Homer, you were able to trade Andrew MacDonald for Drew Doughty and sign him for 6 years at $5M per. That's incredible."

"Umm....yeah, I sure did Ron. Because, I'd never sign MacDonald for that money....yeah, never....thanks."

OR

"Wow Homer, I can't believe you got MacDonald to agree to that 3-year, $2.5M deal we drafted. Very nice."

"Yeah, Ron, about that...we had to tweak that a bit..."
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
Since the older players are already checked out i'm checked out with them too... i'' just watching to to see konecny and provorov at this point. Some of the vets have been fun to watch like simmmer but the rest hace kinda been meh.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
In my opinion, Giroux has been making some nice plays, distributing the puck, and racking up assists, but he is still playing a lot on the perimeter at ES, and he isn't getting many quality scoring chances himself, which is why he hasn't scored a goal to this point. The entire team has been poor overall at ES, with a few exceptions.
- MJL

The atory of his career
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
Since the older players are already checked out i'm checked out with them too... i'' just watching to to see konecny and provorov at this point. Some of the vets have been fun to watch like simmmer but the rest hace kinda been meh.
- JoeRussomanno


Good. So if they turn it around and make the playoffs, you'll just ignore them and refrain from posting on here?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
Good. So if they turn it around and make the playoffs, you'll just ignore them and refrain from posting on here?
- jmatchett383

and get curbstomped like last year?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
Good. So if they turn it around and make the playoffs, you'll just ignore them and refrain from posting on here?
- jmatchett383

About what you'd expect from a guy who unironically has "I'm not mad I'm actually laughing" as his flavor text.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
and get curbstomped like last year?
- JoeRussomanno


Since my answer is yes, I'm assuming that's your answer as well.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
About what you'd expect from a guy who unironically has "I'm not mad I'm actually laughing" as his flavor text.
- BulliesPhan87


I just don't get people who claim to be fans but then do nothing but poop talk them without ever giving any positive input. Why even be a fan if all you're going to do is be miserable about them?

Edit: Not saying everything has to be rainbows and puppies every day, but some people who claim to be "fans" are always finding fault with them no matter what.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
I just don't get people who claim to be fans but then do nothing but poop talk them without ever giving any positive input. Why even be a fan if all you're going to do is be miserable about them?

Edit: Not saying everything has to be rainbows and puppies every day, but some people who claim to be "fans" are always finding fault with them no matter what.

- jmatchett383


Why engage them?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 2:26 PM ET
I just don't get people who claim to be fans but then do nothing but poop talk them without ever giving any positive input. Why even be a fan if all you're going to do is be miserable about them?

Edit: Not saying everything has to be rainbows and puppies every day, but some people who claim to be "fans" are always finding fault with them no matter what.

- jmatchett383



This is where I am:

Pros:
Love watching the 19 year olds.
Seeing how Couturier develops and if the offense comes
Watching Manning play
Seeing if guys like MacDonald or Streit can get any value for a possible trade at the TDL
The goalie battle

Cons:
Bad first periods
mediocre goaltending
Below average defensive plays from the vets


But still I watch every game because I am a Flyers fan
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
Why engage them?
- Scoob


I don't know.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
Since my answer is yes, I'm assuming that's your answer as well.
- jmatchett383

Tell me something? Have you been satisfied with the product that this organization has put out as a whole over the past 5 years?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
I just don't get people who claim to be fans but then do nothing but poop talk them without ever giving any positive input. Why even be a fan if all you're going to do is be miserable about them?

Edit: Not saying everything has to be rainbows and puppies every day, but some people who claim to be "fans" are always finding fault with them no matter what.

- jmatchett383

I do give positive input, 0roblem is you just dwell on my negative input.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
This is where I am:

Pros:
Love watching the 19 year olds.
Seeing how Couturier develops and if the offense comes
Watching Manning play
Seeing if guys like MacDonald or Streit can get any value for a possible trade at the TDL
The goalie battle

Cons:
Bad first periods
mediocre goaltending
Below average defensive plays from the vets


But still I watch every game because I am a Flyers fan

- J35Bacher


Agreed, what are we supposed to do? Follow and cheer for a new team?! No thanks.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
I just don't get people who claim to be fans but then do nothing but poop talk them without ever giving any positive input. Why even be a fan if all you're going to do is be miserable about them?

Edit: Not saying everything has to be rainbows and puppies every day, but some people who claim to be "fans" are always finding fault with them no matter what.

- jmatchett383

I don't have a huge issue with fans who hate losing. I don't quite get it, but it's not necessarily a wrong mindset. Now, the people who wait to see players fail so they can enthusiastically and cynically hand out Told-You-So's, that I don't get.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
Agreed, what are we supposed to do? Follow and cheer for a new team?! No thanks.
- arichardson22


No, we're supposed to take sadistic pleasure in the team's shortcomings.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
I don't know.
- jmatchett383


You should try not doing it. It's great for one's blood pressure.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
I don't have a huge issue with fans who hate losing. I don't quite get it, but it's not necessarily a wrong mindset. Now, the people who wait to see players fail so they can enthusiastically and cynically hand out Told-You-So's, that I don't get.
- BulliesPhan87


I hate when they don't play well, but I'm not going to sit back and snicker and made snide comments all day long when they lose, either.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
You should try not doing it. It's great for one's blood pressure.
- Scoob


I'll spend more time being the guardian angel of Mr. I Know More About Everything Than Everyone Else,
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
I hate when they don't play well, but I'm not going to sit back and snicker and made snide comments all day long when they lose, either.
- jmatchett383

Agreed, there's a bigger picture at play. I truly hope people in the organization don't sit around and consider questions like "are you happy with the product on the ice the last five years?" because:

A) The answer to that should be an obvious "not especially, no," and
2) That's an overly simplistic, and (once again) cynical outlook.
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