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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
MacDonald out Saturday
- Streit2ThePoint


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:54 PM ET
Obviously you missed my very smart point, so allow me to clarify: I'm just being a smartass, don't mind me.


Being sincere, I agree with you 100%. It's not really a new thing for Giroux, going cold in the goal column. He looks like he's pressing to get one in himself, he'll find his groove. I won't be too concerned as long as he keeps doing things to help them win.

- BulliesPhan87


It is back

http://didgirouxscoreyet.com/
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
MacDonald out Saturday
- Streit2ThePoint


Yay
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:59 PM ET
Can't wait for Raffl and Laughton to get back.

Konecny-G-Simmonds
Schenn-Coots-Voracek
Raffl-Cousins-Read
Laughton-Gordon-Lyubimov

Not a bad group.

- mickel25


I would prefer Schenn as 3rd line C.

Konecny-G-Simmonds
Raffl-Coots-Jake
Weise-Schenn-Read
PEB-Gordon-Lyubimov

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:01 PM ET
In my opinion, Giroux has been making some nice plays, distributing the puck, and racking up assists, but he is still playing a lot on the perimeter at ES, and he isn't getting many quality scoring chances himself, which is why he hasn't scored a goal to this point. The entire team has been poor overall at ES, with a few exceptions.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
Question about Las Vegas' 48 hour window:

If they sign a tendered RFA to an offer sheet, does the standard 7 day window to match still exist? Is it an offer sheet or is the team just screwed?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
It is back

http://didgirouxscoreyet.com/

- jmatchett383

YES I've been looking for that site since the season started
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
YES I've been looking for that site since the season started
- 2Real


Well, as a fellow fan of the Philadelphia Flyers who likes seeing them succeed and takes no pleasure in their shortcomings, I am glad to help you out.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Not sure I am liking the d pairings I see:

Gudas - Manning
Streit - Provorov
Gostibehere - Schultz

Don't mind Gudas and Manning but not a fan of taking away the only solid pairing since they were put together in Manning-Provorov
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
Not sure I am liking the d pairings I see:

Gudas - Manning
Streit - Provorov
Gostibehere - Schultz

Don't mind Gudas and Manning but not a fan of taking away the only solid pairing since they were put together in Manning-Provorov

- J35Bacher


Didn't we already try this???
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
Didn't we already try this???
- jmatchett383


Yep.

I wonder how long it goes before they just decide to waive MacDonald and bring Morin up.

The sad part is it's the vets that keep looking bad.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Yep.

I wonder how long it goes before they just decide to waive MacDonald and bring Morin up.

The sad part is it's the vets that keep looking bad.

- J35Bacher


They won't bring Morin up while they have 6+ healthy vets on the team. They'd waive/sit AMac and Schultz and then have an Alt/Brennan type as the 7th defenseman.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
They won't bring Morin up while they have 6+ healthy vets on the team. They'd waive/sit AMac and Schultz and then have an Alt/Brennan type as the 7th defenseman.
- jmatchett383



Waive MacDonald.

Manning - Provorov
Gudas - Gostisbehere
Morin - Del Zotto

Streit/Schultz, one 7th dman the other works concessions in isle 128
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Waive MacDonald.

Manning - Provorov
Gudas - Gostisbehere
Morin - Del Zotto

Streit/Schultz, one 7th dman the other works concessions in isle 128

- J35Bacher


Yeah, but they won't.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
Yeah, but they won't.
- jmatchett383



I know.

While early it's frustrating watching vets look the way they do.

arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
I know.

While early it's frustrating watching vets look the way they do.

- J35Bacher


Screw it, let's just trade for your boy Trouba
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
I know.

While early it's frustrating watching vets look the way they do.

- J35Bacher


I agree....but I don't think throwing another rookie into the fire is smart, either.

Like it or not, while the vets haven't looked great, they are more likely to turn their games around to an acceptable level than a guy with 0 NHL games will be if he's thrown into this situation. Now, if we're 35-40 games in and things aren't getting better, the story changes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Screw it, let's just trade for your boy Trouba
- arichardson22


I'd inquire. Makes the MDZ situation much clearer, if nothing else.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 28 @ 1:43 PM ET
I know.

While early it's frustrating watching vets look the way they do.

- J35Bacher


I think that's why I posted my stuff earlier that was missing MDZ in back and Read up front. This team is just maddening right now. We know what they can be and with Read breaking out again it should be much better. Instead we play Russian Roulette with 3 veteran d men as to who's going to be the dumpster fire that evening.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:45 PM ET
Screw it, let's just trade for your boy Trouba
- arichardson22


I would in a heart beat.

If they got Trouba I think you have your top pair for the next 7 years with Trouba and Provorov.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
Question about Las Vegas' 48 hour window:

If they sign a tendered RFA to an offer sheet, does the standard 7 day window to match still exist? Is it an offer sheet or is the team just screwed?

- jmatchett383


Yep
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
Question about Las Vegas' 48 hour window:

If they sign a tendered RFA to an offer sheet, does the standard 7 day window to match still exist? Is it an offer sheet or is the team just screwed?

- jmatchett383


Sounds like screwed except that guy counts as the selection from your team.

Time to start looking for RFA's that aren't exempt from the draft?

OH (frank) sign Ghost now Hexy!
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
I think that's why I posted my stuff earlier that was missing MDZ in back and Read up front. This team is just maddening right now. We know what they can be and with Read breaking out again it should be much better. Instead we play Russian Roulette with 3 veteran d men as to who's going to be the dumpster fire that evening.
- dragonoffrost


I don't think I've ever been so frustrated over a game 8 games into the season. It was just so damn maddening to watch last night. It should be much better with Jake returning to form, Matt Read breakout again is just an added pleasant surprise. Really thought he was cooked after how much his play dropped past two seasons.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
I would in a heart beat.

If they got Trouba I think you have your top pair for the next 7 years with Trouba and Provorov.

- J35Bacher



and what would you give up for Trouba and what kind of contract would you offer? gotta think both will be very costly
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
In all honesty, that's not how an NHL front office works. A good executive doesn't want yes men, and those who won't express their opinion, due to not wanting to be disrespectful. If Hextall was that way, he wouldn't be the GM today. I think it's a false narrative to believe that Hextall wasn't in favor of the deal.
- MJL


Hexy as assistant GM helped negotiate that deal in the first place. So, yes, he was absolutely on board with it.
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