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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
As bad as Gordon has been on faceoffs, he leads the team in FO%.

Gordon - 51.06%
Giroux - 48.84%
Coots - 46.24%
Bellemare - 46.03%

VDV is over 60% but I think he has only taken like 4.

- MikesPillBottle


Ducks Coyotes and Hurricanes are all top 5 in faceoff %

It will regress to the mean
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:17 AM ET
Ducks Coyotes and Hurricanes are all top 5 in faceoff %

It will regress to the mean

- YuenglingJagr


I'm thinking the league average of faceoffs will be somewhere around 50%.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
Yes, generally when a goaltender sees a puck they have a very good chance at making a save.
- Streit2ThePoint


Don't you sass me

There are plenty of deflections that goalies see and have no shot against (example, the other two non-EN goals in the game)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:19 AM ET
I'm thinking the league average of faceoffs will be somewhere around 50%.
- jmatchett383


Hmmm...that'll be a tough one to over/under
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Oct 25 @ 9:19 AM ET
The Flyers need to get better play at ES from a number of players. I thought last night, the Giroux line had a poor game. Especially Simmonds and Schenn. Giroux needs to pick up his offensive game at ES. I don't think Couturier had a great game either. Voracek and Konecny are carrying this team at ES in terms of pressure and creating. Weber sure looked like he's in decline last night.
- MJL


As much as I don't like tinkering with lines until about 10 games have passed, I think it might be a good time to move TK up and drop Schenn down to 2nd line. I just think Giroux needs a player who think more like he does to be fully optimized and I think TK is the guy.

TK- G - Simmonds
Schenn - Coots - Jake

AT least try it for the first period and see how it plays out
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:20 AM ET
As much as I don't like tinkering with lines until about 10 games have passed, I think it might be a good time to move TK up and drop Schenn down to 2nd line. I just think Giroux needs a player who think more like he does to be fully optimized and I think TK is the guy.

TK- G - Simmonds
Schenn - Coots - Jake

AT least try it for the first period and see how it plays out

- juiced


I would go the other way. Schenn G Jake...but yeah, I wouldnt be opposed to trying either
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:20 AM ET
As much as I don't like tinkering with lines until about 10 games have passed, I think it might be a good time to move TK up and drop Schenn down to 2nd line. I just think Giroux needs a player who think more like he does to be fully optimized and I think TK is the guy.

TK- G - Simmonds
Schenn - Coots - Jake

AT least try it for the first period and see how it plays out

- juiced


I don't know, that TK-Coots-Jake line has been our best line. Not sure I'd want to break it up. But Schenn still looks rusty.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:21 AM ET
I don't know, that TK-Coots-Jake line has been our best line. Not sure I'd want to break it up. But Schenn still looks rusty.
- jmatchett383


Dare we move Read up and drop Schenn to 3?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 25 @ 9:22 AM ET
The shot that broke Schwinn's stick and redirected into traffic? How was he supposed to save it unless he was lucky? Almost impossible to track that one.
- bmeltzer

The argument is that Mac was originally defending Radulov, who continued to skate to the other side of the slot, and ended up being the lone player in front of Mason. The shot was deflected as you said, but it was pretty freaking slow.. Im fairly confident that Mason's foot speed would have prevented that one...
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
Dare we move Read up and drop Schenn to 3?
- dragonoffrost


Yes
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
Mark Alt is dead.

Or injured.

- jmatchett383

Figures
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
As much as I don't like tinkering with lines until about 10 games have passed, I think it might be a good time to move TK up and drop Schenn down to 2nd line. I just think Giroux needs a player who think more like he does to be fully optimized and I think TK is the guy.

TK- G - Simmonds
Schenn - Coots - Jake

AT least try it for the first period and see how it plays out

- juiced

Its funny.. there was a shift where G was out with TK and Voracek and I damn near impregnated my wife.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:24 AM ET
Dare we move Read up and drop Schenn to 3?
- dragonoffrost


Maybe. Not sure, I'd see if that top line can get going.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:25 AM ET
Its funny.. there was a shift where G was out with TK and Voracek and I damn near impregnated my wife.
- jak521


With your pants on?

Are you Superman?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 9:26 AM ET
The shot that broke Schwinn's stick and redirected into traffic? How was he supposed to save it unless he was lucky? Almost impossible to track that one.
- bmeltzer



The deflection took a lot off of it, and it was along the ice. He couldn't track it because he was screened. In my opinion, with a clear look, he makes that save. Not in any way blaming Mason on the goal.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:32 AM ET
Its funny.. there was a shift where G was out with TK and Voracek and I damn near impregnated my wife.
- jak521

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:34 AM ET
The deflection took a lot off of it, and it was along the ice. He couldn't track it because he was screened. In my opinion, with a clear look, he makes that save. Not in any way blaming Mason on the goal.
- MJL

especially with how he played last night
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 25 @ 9:41 AM ET
Who should sit?
Streit

Who will sit?
AMac

- BiggE


That's what I am seeing. Streit was just that bad last night
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 25 @ 9:42 AM ET
With your pants on?

Are you Superman?

- jmatchett383

Who says I wear pants when I watch the Flyers?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:44 AM ET
Who says I wear pants when I watch the Flyers?
- jak521


touche

I guess I'm the weirdo.

I just saw it as, "Wha-what-what!?!? Giroux out with Konecny and Voracek!?!?" (you turn to your wife) "You are now carrying my child."
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 25 @ 9:47 AM ET
touche

I guess I'm the weirdo.

I just saw it as, "Wha-what-what!?!? Giroux out with Konecny and Voracek!?!?" (you turn to your wife) "You are now carrying my child."

- jmatchett383


This makes far more sense compared to when my parents gave me "the talk"
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
Even with the puck deflecting off of Schenn's stick, I believe Mason makes that save had AMAC not been standing almost on top of him basically screening him.

I don't want any of the young dmen out of the lineup including Manning. My choice would be AMAC or Streit
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
touche

I guess I'm the weirdo.

- jmatchett383

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
This makes far more sense compared to when my parents gave me "the talk"
- arichardson22


My parents tried to give me "the talk." Fortunately, my best friend who is 3 years older did it first when I was like 6-7.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 9:49 AM ET
Even with the puck deflecting off of Schenn's stick, I believe Mason makes that save had AMAC not been standing almost on top of him basically screening him.

I don't want any of the young dmen out of the lineup including Manning. My choice would be AMAC or Streit

- nastyflyergirl


While I don't count Manning as needing to stay in the lineup to to his age/development curve, I think his play has spoken for itself.
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