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MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 15 @ 9:52 PM ET
Yeah like a glowing puck that has trails when the puck is shot. Oh wait.
- bird_dog_pa


That wasn't to determine when it was in.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Oct 15 @ 9:53 PM ET
Glowing pucks can be seen through gloves duh!
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 15 @ 9:53 PM ET
Boy Gordon is more visible than Claude
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 15 @ 9:54 PM ET
Boy Gordon is more visible than Claude
- Landsbergfan


Giroux stuck in 2016 playoff mode.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 15 @ 9:59 PM ET
why the (frank) is mason in this game.... he isn't clutch
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:01 PM ET
Of course call it on the black guy
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
......G's line has been dominating on the cycle. Best line by a country mile
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 10:04 PM ET
......G's line has been dominating on the cycle. Best line by a country mile
- Mononoke

Yup, the others need to pick it up
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:05 PM ET
Much like last night, not much ES flow for the Flyers (besides the 1st line). So much PKing right off the bat is always bad news for that.

Flyers need to start getting it going. PP should help.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 10:06 PM ET
From a basic stat standpoint, bring the same offense.

Schenn played 72 games last season, 16 total points and minus 2 rating.

Gudas played 76 games, 14 points, with a minus 3 rating.

Both have the same career high of 22 in their career. Of the two, Schenn has done it twice with a historically bad team.

I'm not denying Gudas might be the better player but if he's an offensive defenseman, he's not very good at it. As for overall play, that's a different debate. At the end of day, Schenn has a lot to work on but at least colors within the lines of physicality. Tonight Schenn plays, Gudas does not.

- SuperSchennBros


Some are calling him an offensive defenseman because he shoots the puck a fair amount. I don't think that's a correct way of looking at Gudas as a defenseman. He's a stay at home physical defender, who shoots the puck every chance he gets. You can't be considered an offensive defenseman if you don't generate a lot of points, and don't play on the PP.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 10:09 PM ET
Some are calling him an offensive defenseman because he shoots the puck a fair amount.
- MJL


I don't think anybody's calling him that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 10:10 PM ET
Much like last night, not much ES flow for the Flyers (besides the 1st line). So much PKing right off the bat is always bad news for that.

Flyers need to start getting it going. PP should help.

- Mononoke


Kind of hard to get that flowing when ES ice time is limited. Mark Streit for example only played 1:43 of ES ice time. Provorov only 1:40. The Couturier line about 2:25 at ES.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 10:11 PM ET
I don't think anybody's calling him that.
- Tomahawk


Mononoke has labeled him an offensive defenseman numerous times.

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:14 PM ET
I don't think anybody's calling him that.
- Tomahawk


He's a play driving, shot generating d man. No one expects him to put up many points. But he's certainly no "shutdown" guy who is great in his own zone either. In sustained defensive zone play, he can be very sloppy. But he hits, which = good defense, I guess.

Gudas really makes no sense from any standpoint statistical or visual. He's just a Gudas-type d man.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:14 PM ET
Mononoke has labeled him an offensive defenseman numerous times.
- MJL


BS. I only said he's more offensive than defensive, from a traditional view of both. I never said he was an "offensive d man."
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 10:17 PM ET
BS. I only said he's more offensive than defensive, from a traditional view of both.
- Mononoke


No, it's not BS. In conversations where Gudas has been the topic, and called a defensive defenseman, you specifically called him an offensive defenseman. More than once.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:18 PM ET
No, it's not BS. In conversations where Gudas has been the topic, and called a defensive defenseman, you specifically called him an offensive defenseman. More than once.
- MJL


Again, BS. Saying he isn't a defensive d man isn't calling him Keith Yandle. You're just making things up. Intermission time is boring time for you. Need to start an argument to kill time, I guess.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 10:20 PM ET
This is going downhill fast
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
He's a play driving, shot generating d man. No one expects him to put up many points. But he's certainly no "shutdown" guy who is great in his own zone either. In sustained defensive zone play, he can be very sloppy. But he hits, which = good defense, I guess.

Gudas really makes no sense from any standpoint statistical or visual. He's just a Gudas-type d man.

- Mononoke


From watching him, I feel like his stats are great because he makes quick, simple decisions... whether it's putting pucks on net quickly, or making that first 15-foot pass after a retrieval quickly, or getting over quickly to seal off the boards. That stuff is probably from him coming up in the Czech system and it all translates into possession+.

He's not your typical high and hard off the glass, lob it out of the zone kind of plug.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
mason blows pull him
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
Shame we don't have any big money players that can match the coyotes forwards
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
Ok. The first period was simply frustrating. That last goal was effing irritating. Really irritating
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 15 @ 10:24 PM ET
Shame we don't have any big money players that can match the coyotes forwards
- JoeRussomanno

shame that we didn't play our goalie that won last night! SAD!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 10:29 PM ET
That's more like it, now let's get going boys!
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:30 PM ET
Shame we don't have any big money players that can match the coyotes forwards
- JoeRussomanno


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