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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
Schneider plays on the most defensive team in the league...to an extreme. Sure you could have an opinion that he's #1...but tough to prove when his team approach is to try and have 1 shot against/for per period.

hiway39
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.01.2010

Sep 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
"The USA made the decision to start Quick over Schneider, with no apparent regard for the guy who is widely considered to be one of the two or three best goalies in the world. "

quick stopped 63 of 66 shots in his appearances in the preliminary games, and that includes his ridiculous performance in 2 periods against canada with 29 saves on 30 shots. how did schneider do in his appearance against canada? 4 goals on 24 shots, and that was without Crosby in the lineup.

enough nonsense about reg season stats...each goalie had the same team usa in front of them and time in net in the exhibition games and quick had the best results of the three, he won both games he played.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Sep 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
Schneider plays on the most defensive team in the league...to an extreme. Sure you could have an opinion that he's #1...but tough to prove when his team approach is to try and have 1 shot against/for per period.
- Garnie


you can't fake a .924 save percentage. he also got less goal support than any other goalie in the league so he had no margin for error but was still always on top of his game.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 14 @ 3:03 PM ET
Schneider plays on the most defensive team in the league...to an extreme. Sure you could have an opinion that he's #1...but tough to prove when his team approach is to try and have 1 shot against/for per period.
- Garnie


This is not the 1990's NJ Devils. NJ may rely more on defense because they are weak offensively speaking, but that doesn't mean they have a good defense.

Schneider faced 1597 shots! Extreme defensive teams would not be letting that many shots hit the goalie.

Quick faced 1820 shots.

While I think Schneider is a top five goalie, I don't think stats tell the whole story of any position in hockey. Stats don't show how goalies handle certain types of game situations, how they rebound(no pun intended) when they let up a bad goal or go down a few goals.

Stats don't show how a goalie handles pressure, period. Quick is a clutch goalie and tremendous under pressure. The World Cup is a high pressure tournament since it's do-or-die each and every game. Quick is used to this type of environment more-so than Schneider, so yes, I'm going with Quick over Schneider.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 14 @ 3:13 PM ET
you can't fake a .924 save percentage. he also got less goal support than any other goalie in the league so he had no margin for error but was still always on top of his game.
- DoubleDown


I think you have to look at it as a short tournament where every game is important. I think Quick gets the nod. Although if I have to build a team for a season I would take Schneider.

They are both extremely good goalies, just different scenarios.
Tanner: Team Finland
Joined: 09.12.2016

Sep 14 @ 5:51 PM ET
Schneider plays on the most defensive team in the league...to an extreme. Sure you could have an opinion that he's #1...but tough to prove when his team approach is to try and have 1 shot against/for per period.
- Garnie


it's not really, he consistently is a league leader in high-danger scoring percentage.
Johnotron
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Claremont, ON
Joined: 02.18.2011

Sep 14 @ 7:21 PM ET
Tanner, your blind, smug dedication to advanced stats is the only resaon why coaches like torts and carlyle are reluctant to embrace them!
Dial it back a bit and maybe the ducks win the cup this year
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Practice today had a top line of

Patrik Laine - Alexander Barkov - Sebastian Aho
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:46 PM ET
This is not the 1990's NJ Devils. NJ may rely more on defense because they are weak offensively speaking, but that doesn't mean they have a good defense.

Schneider faced 1597 shots! Extreme defensive teams would not be letting that many shots hit the goalie.

Quick faced 1820 shots.

While I think Schneider is a top five goalie, I don't think stats tell the whole story of any position in hockey. Stats don't show how goalies handle certain types of game situations, how they rebound(no pun intended) when they let up a bad goal or go down a few goals.

Stats don't show how a goalie handles pressure, period. Quick is a clutch goalie and tremendous under pressure. The World Cup is a high pressure tournament since it's do-or-die each and every game. Quick is used to this type of environment more-so than Schneider, so yes, I'm going with Quick over Schneider.

- Rinosaur


so Quick faced 220 more shots but NJ isn't defensive...hmmm.

Pretty close to the lowest shots against in the league...not saying he's a bad goalie...but he gets tons of help from his defense...they are a defense 1st team.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:52 PM ET
you can't fake a .924 save percentage. he also got less goal support than any other goalie in the league so he had no margin for error but was still always on top of his game.
- DoubleDown



True, but it helps when 5 teammates are standing the in crease with you.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:59 PM ET
True, but it helps when 5 teammates are standing the in crease with you.
- Garnie


Did.... did you watch New Jersey last year?
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