Might I remind you that he is an RFA who teams are not allowed to offer sheet, so this is not possible
- S Kaspar Rollins

I beg to disagree - http://www.generalfanager...om/draftpicks/offersheets

I beg to disagree - http://www.generalfanager...om/draftpicks/offersheets
- ducks31

Disagree all you want, it won't make you right.

"Because Gaudreau went from the NHL to the World Championship — not the AHL — and failed to play 10 professional games in his first season, it did not count as a year of professional experience. In order to earn one year of experience, Gaudreau would have had to play 10 games total between the NHL and AHL. Gaudreau signed his entry-level deal as a 20-year-old, meaning he needs three years experience to become eligible for Group 2 Free Agency and also earn arbitration rights."

Might I remind you that he is an RFA who teams are not allowed to offer sheet, so this is not possible
- S Kaspar Rollins

You are misunderstanding my point.

If he were willing to risk sitting out the season(HIGHLY DOUBT IT) he could leverage some control at further risk of ruining his reputation.

If he were dirty enough to leak a list of teams that he'd refuse to sign with, I doubt any of those particular teams would trade for his rights. Therefore, in a way, he could force the hand of Treliving.

This is based on him being a total douchebag, which I don't believe he is.

I have to mention how good he's looked at the world cup so far. Let's get this done Calgary!!!

You are misunderstanding my point.

If he were willing to risk sitting out the season(HIGHLY DOUBT IT) he could leverage some control at further risk of ruining his reputation.

If he were dirty enough to leak a list of teams that he'd refuse to sign with, I doubt any of those particular teams would trade for his rights. Therefore, in a way, he could force the hand of Treliving.

This is based on him being a total douchebag, which I don't believe he is.

I have to mention how good he's looked at the world cup so far. Let's get this done Calgary!!!
- Misterbator

Ducks wouldn't offer sheet him. Nor are they going to trade for him. However, Lindholm, Rakell, and JG could sit out the year and become UFA. Now, I agree they might be "total douchebags" for doing it, but make no mistake, there will be a ton of teams lining up for each of their services should they decide to go that route. It's the nature of the beast. The pursuing teams want to win. Their reputations (except with the team they sign with) will take a severe hit. But by the time their contracts are up for renewal, people will have forgotten the past. The question is would they be willing to sit out a year?

Ducks wouldn't offer sheet him. Nor are they going to trade for him. However, Lindholm, Rakell, and JG could sit out the year and become UFA. Now, I agree they might be "total douchebags" for doing it, but make no mistake, there will be a ton of teams lining up for each of their services should they decide to go that route. It's the nature of the beast. The pursuing teams want to win. Their reputations (except with the team they sign with) will take a severe hit. But by the time their contracts are up for renewal, people will have forgotten the past. The question is would they be willing to sit out a year?
- quackup

I really don't recall any loop hole in the CBA that allows a player to boycott a team & sit out a year to circumvent 5 years of RFA. These players would still be RFA & would have just lost a whole year of earnings in a short career & create question marks about character & also the fact they wouldn't have played at the NHL level for over a year. Correct me if Im wrong & that's the ticket to circumvent RFAgency in the NHL.

I really don't recall any loop hole in the CBA that allows a player to boycott a team & sit out a year to circumvent 5 years of RFA. These players would still be RFA & would have just lost a whole year of earnings in a short career & create question marks about character & also the fact they wouldn't have played at the NHL level for over a year. Correct me if Im wrong & that's the ticket to circumvent RFAgency in the NHL.
- Kevin R

Exactly the point I was making.

To be precise, I wasn't presenting a loop hole scenario. It was more about what a rfa player could do if he were unhappy with a team. Not signing a contract is a straightforward option.

Radulov comes to mind.

I have no doubt that a deal will get done, Johnny really has no leverage unless he wants to sabotage his career. A purely speculative notion.

All sidetracks aside, Johnny to the Ducks is highly unlikely.

Exactly the point I was making.

To be precise, I wasn't presenting a loop hole scenario. It was more about what a rfa player could do if he were unhappy with a team. Not signing a contract is a straightforward option.

Radulov comes to mind.

I have no doubt that a deal will get done, Johnny really has no leverage unless he wants to sabotage his career. A purely speculative notion.

All sidetracks aside, Johnny to the Ducks is highly unlikely.
- Misterbator

I stand corrected. From what I can gather, sitting out a year does not qualify for UFA status. An offer sheet is really the players only option (Murray has said he would match any offer for Lindholm/Rakell) or sitting out. The only thing I found was if an RFA fails to sign a contract by Dec. 1, he MUST sit out the entire season. This does the player no good, as was mentioned before, because he's still RFA after that year and all that he's accomplished is forfeit any income. Please correct if wrong.

I dont think that gets you Johnny hockey.

Flames need slot scoring more than top young D.
Gaudreau is on another level, sorry..
- broc

True . I think the only way Johnny or hampus get traded is if there agents threaten to hold out during camp . That really irritates GMs . Anyways i worry about gaudreua s size . The grind of 80 games can't be easy having to skate with your hair on fire 20 minutes a game . Because if he doesn't he will get creamed .

To get any kind of scoring help, Murray has to move out apx. $7M of existing contracts.
- Ed Stein

He's not getting scoring help this offseason, let it go. And its arguable that they even need it. The defense is rock solid and its not like they really lost anyone who was a game changer offensively. Its not much of a reach to assume Murray's mindset is to ask for, and expect, more from Ritchie, Cogliano and Silvferberg in terms of offense. You have to remember that the players essentially took all of last summer off and were not ready for the start of the season. Most of the offense came in the 2nd half of the year. A better start makes those numbers look more respectable than middle of the pack. All they need to do is sign Rakell and Lindholm. He's done adding.