KINGKENZO
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Exactly.
Its a good risk by the eagles and I am a cowboys fan.
Just like the cowboys going after La'ial Collins even with all the extra stuff going on before the draft. - J35Bacher
Drink bleach |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Drink bleach - KINGKENZO
I thought the correct response was "Delete your account"? |
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Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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But, but, then you'll be left out of arguments over why they should have never taken so and so with their 2nd pick in the 6th round!
 - BiggE
lol - I'm training my eyes and brain to make those posts invisible |
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Crimsoninja
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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I changed my all time favourite movies list.
Jurassic Park
Kingpin
From Dusk Till Dawn
Superbad
The 3 Musketeers (1993)
I'm willing to write this in stone. - roenick97
amazing how well JP still holds up 20+ years later |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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But, but, then you'll be left out of arguments over why they should have never taken so and so with their 2nd pick in the 6th round!
 - BiggE
Goulbourne was a great pick in the 3rd round.
Granted, I have never seen him play in person, have never met him personally, and don't know more than what I've read and seen through YouTube, but it's a great pick!!! |
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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I do like the way they seem to be identifying certain skill sets for this team. Good two way guys with size. I think they are building a team that will be hard to play against. - J35Bacher
kings east is whats happening |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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kings east is whats happening - Just5
If it gets the desired results |
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mayorofangrytown
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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I changed my all time favourite movies list.
Jurassic Park
Kingpin
From Dusk Till Dawn
Superbad
The 3 Musketeers (1993)
I'm willing to write this in stone. - roenick97
You should check out the 1948 version of the Three Musketeers. It's one of my favourites and if you like the newer one the older one is worth your time. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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You should check out the 1948 version of the Three Musketeers. It's one of my favourites and if you like the newer one the older one is worth your time. - mayorofangrytown
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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amazing how well JP still holds up 20+ years later - Crimsoninja
For me I would have to go in no particular order:
Boondock Saints
Shawshank Redemption
The Godfather
Citizen Kane
The Deer Hunter
Platoon
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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For me I would have to go in no particular order:
Boondock Saints
Shawshank Redemption
The Godfather
Citizen Kane
The Deer Hunter
Platoon - J35Bacher
That's the kind of list I'd expect from a Cowboys fan. A lot of gun violence, ties to organized crime, and prison. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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That's the kind of list I'd expect from a Cowboys fan. A lot of gun violence, ties to organized crime, and prison. - jmatchett383
Shots fired! |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Anyone watching "The Night Of" right now? |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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That's the kind of list I'd expect from a Cowboys fan. A lot of gun violence, ties to organized crime, and prison. - jmatchett383
I'm just gonna nip this one in the bud right now.
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dragonoffrost
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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Anyone watching "The Night Of" right now? - YuenglingJagr
On the 4th episode. Love it. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I'm Good  - dragonoffrost
LOL, Iggles fans talking trash on any other NFC east team is like a quadriplegic laughing at a guy with a broken foot because he cant run fast.
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I'm just gonna nip this one in the bud right now.
 - MBFlyerfan
I don't know what the most inept "model franchise" in NFl history has to do with anything, but okay. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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wolfhounds
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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To expect Morin to reach that sort of level is to set the expectations bar and the pressure too high. The development goal is to make him as consistent and as NHL-ready as possible to give him his best chance of getting as much out of his abilities as he possibly can. If Morin becomes a reliable 18-to-20-minute per game NHL defenseman in the next couple years, the pick will have been a success.
It doesn't make any sense to limit what a player can be prior to seeing him play at the highest level. Let's see Morin in the NHL for a year or two, at the very least, before raising or lowering our expectations and his apparent ceiling.
Saying what level he can't attain before he gets a few seasons of NHL hockey under his belt is just as silly as setting the bar too high. Of course, one is the more practical approach, but it still all boils down to trying to predict the future.
We've all seen top 1st round picks (L Schenn, Gagner, etc.) who haven't panned out, and 2nd and 3rd round picks who've turned into stars, so for me, I'm going to wait to see what Morin does in the next few seasons (hopefully) before placing limits on what he can become.
edit: this, to me, goes for all top prospects, not just Morin. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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It doesn't make any sense to limit what a player can be prior to seeing him play at the highest level. Let's see Morin in the NHL for a year or two, at the very least, before raising or lowering our expectations and his apparent ceiling.
Saying what level he can't attain before he gets a few seasons of NHL hockey under his belt is just as silly as setting the bar too high. Of course, one is the more practical approach, but it still all boils down to trying to predict the future.
We've all seen top 1st round picks (L Schenn, Gagner, etc.) who haven't panned out, and 2nd and 3rd round picks who've turned into stars, so for me, I'm going to wait to see what Morin does in the next few seasons (hopefully) before placing limits on what he can become.
edit: this, to me, goes for all top prospects, not just Morin. - wolfhounds
Luke Schenn is a serviceable NHL caliber defenseman. I understand what you mean by saying he didn't "pan out" when you talk about his projection as a top pair shutdown defenseman like Adam Foote. That was unfair from the very start. And I don't think he ever recovered from those lofty expectations.
He is the poster child for how NOT to develop a high end draft pick.
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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Anyone watching "The Night Of" right now? - YuenglingJagr
Oh yeah. Great show. My assumption(s) are coming to life with how the last episode ended. |
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dragonoffrost
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Luke Schenn is a serviceable NHL caliber defenseman. I understand what you mean by saying he didn't "pan out" when you talk about his projection as a top pair shutdown defenseman like Adam Foote. That was unfair from the very start. And I don't think he ever recovered from those lofty expectations.
He is the poster child for how NOT to develop a high end draft pick. - MBFlyerfan
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flyer_nutter
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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For me it isn't so much about whether the prospects pan out. I am sure some will.
It's where there is a star or two to be found among them. Can't build a team of vanilla mediocrity that has a strong two way game. |
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mayorofangrytown
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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It doesn't make any sense to limit what a player can be prior to seeing him play at the highest level. Let's see Morin in the NHL for a year or two, at the very least, before raising or lowering our expectations and his apparent ceiling.
Saying what level he can't attain before he gets a few seasons of NHL hockey under his belt is just as silly as setting the bar too high. Of course, one is the more practical approach, but it still all boils down to trying to predict the future.
We've all seen top 1st round picks (L Schenn, Gagner, etc.) who haven't panned out, and 2nd and 3rd round picks who've turned into stars, so for me, I'm going to wait to see what Morin does in the next few seasons (hopefully) before placing limits on what he can become.
edit: this, to me, goes for all top prospects, not just Morin. - wolfhounds
My problem with this whole ceiling concept is that it's fabricated. There's no ceiling be it a high one or a low one. It's based on a wild guess making comparisons to past players of similar abilities at the same level. Every player is an individual. Anything can derail a young players future.
There's every possibility that a player excelling in 2014 at the same position on the same team and in the same league as a dozen other players in the past who all achieved some level of NHL success beyond third line/third pair just doesn't have the mental make up to continue progressing to the pro level. So he never achieved his "ceiling" because his ceiling was actually being a tremendous junior player and decent minor pro. But this players a failure because some former hockey player and his peers decided this kid was going to be a top six NHL forward when he was 17.
You can't go back to know if different paths actually do make a difference. Your stuck with the one that's given you. It's all educated guess work (and not all that educated). Saying someone failed because they were rushed to the next level is just as much guess work as someone saying they never made the show because they were never given a fair shot or spent so much time in the minors that they became a cast off. |
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