Quick. Kill one, (frank) one, marry one?

Kadri, Barkov, O'Reilly
- Mr.Bobby

for sure Marry Barkov...Elite marriage right there

Not to be a homer but Giroux should absolutely be on that list
- bulet13

We are talking top Defensive centers not offensive centers.

Datsyuk- Not in NHl Anymore
Bergeron > O'Rielly
Kopitar > O'Rielly
Toews> O'Rielly
Crosby> O'Rielly
Thornton< O'Rielly
H. Sedin< O'Rielly
Backstrom< O'Rielly
Kopitar> O'Rielly

So i have as number 6. I think he is very close to crosby which i have him as 5th.
- hanleyaj

oh my. you sir need professional help

Quick. Kill one, (frank) one, marry one?

Kadri, Barkov, O'Reilly
- Mr.Bobby

Kill Kadri Marry Barkov and take O'Reilly out for the seafood dinner and never call him again

Who'd ya have in mind?
- j.boyd919

I guess it depends on who qualifies as a two way center in your book. Personally, I'd say:
Kopitar
Toews
Pavelski
Backstrom
Datsyuk
Barkov
Bergeron
ROR
Stepan

More or less in that order. I wouldn't really consider Crosby or Thornton or Sedin a two-way center. Not to say they don't play effective defense, but it's not really a staple or huge strength in their game like some of the other guys I listed. Not sure I'd even include Backstrom, and Pavelski is kind of a winger.

Datsyuk- Not in NHl Anymore
Bergeron > O'Rielly
Kopitar > O'Rielly
Toews> O'Rielly
Crosby> O'Rielly
Thornton< O'Rielly
H. Sedin< O'Rielly
Backstrom< O'Rielly
Kopitar> O'Rielly

So i have as number 6. I think he is very close to crosby which i have him as 5th.
- hanleyaj

We are talking top Defensive centers not offensive centers.
- hanleyaj

Giroux is very much a two-way center...the fact that you don't know this shows that you truly know nothing about hockey.

Datsyuk- Not in NHl Anymore
Bergeron > O'Rielly
Kopitar > O'Rielly
Toews> O'Rielly
Crosby> O'Rielly
Thornton< O'Rielly
H. Sedin< O'Rielly
Backstrom< O'Rielly
Kopitar> O'Rielly

So i have as number 6. I think he is very close to crosby which i have him as 5th.
- hanleyaj

Nope. That's absurd. Backstrom is closer to O'Reilly, but Thornton is light years better than ROR defensively, while providing off the charts primary A/60. ROR couldn't sniff Jumbo's jock.

I guess it depends on who qualifies as a two way center in your book. Personally, I'd say:
Kopitar
Toews
Pavelski
Backstrom
Datsyuk
Barkov
Bergeron
ROR
Stepan

More or less in that order. I wouldn't really consider Crosby or Thornton or Sedin a two-way center. Not to say they don't play effective defense, but it's not really a staple or huge strength in their game like some of the other guys I listed. Not sure I'd even include Backstrom, and Pavelski is kind of a winger.
- rangerdanger94

Nah

Kill Kadri Marry Barkov and take O'Reilly out for the seafood dinner and never call him again
- NEONDOUBLEDION

OReilly is a saint!

I guess it depends on who qualifies as a two way center in your book. Personally, I'd say:
Kopitar
Toews
Pavelski
Backstrom
Datsyuk
Barkov
Bergeron
ROR
Stepan

More or less in that order. I wouldn't really consider Crosby or Thornton or Sedin a two-way center. Not to say they don't play effective defense, but it's not really a staple or huge strength in their game like some of the other guys I listed. Not sure I'd even include Backstrom, and Pavelski is kind of a winger.
- rangerdanger94

Still missing a whole bunch of Giroux in there

Giroux is very much a two-way center...the fact that you don't know this shows that you truly know nothing about hockey.
- bulet13

I agree wit ya, I forgot about him. Definitely underrated defensively.

We are talking top Defensive centers not offensive centers.
- hanleyaj

You don't see a lot of Giroux do you?

Still missing a whole bunch of Giroux in there
- bulet13

True he is a beast

Giroux is very much a two-way center...the fact that you don't know this shows that you truly know nothing about hockey.
- bulet13

shhh dont tell him that Giroux got my selke votes than ROR did last year, it might crush the little guys spirits

True he is a beast
- rangerdanger94

And Backstrom is criminally underrated because ......Ovi.

And Backstrom is criminally underrated because ......Ovi.
- Mr.Bobby

I listed Backstrom but I don't know if he's a stud in his own zone like some of the other guys listed

I guess it depends on who qualifies as a two way center in your book. Personally, I'd say:
Kopitar
Toews
Pavelski
Backstrom
Datsyuk
Barkov
Bergeron
ROR
Stepan

More or less in that order. I wouldn't really consider Crosby or Thornton or Sedin a two-way center. Not to say they don't play effective defense, but it's not really a staple or huge strength in their game like some of the other guys I listed. Not sure I'd even include Backstrom, and Pavelski is kind of a winger.
- rangerdanger94

Over the past few years, Crosby's defensive play has been very under appreciated. In Bylsma's later years, I think last 2? Maybe just the last one, Sid was used against the opponents top lines, and usually did very well limiting chances. Thornton's defense is phenomenal. I'll never discredit a guy's defense because they're elite offensively. That's just silly. Sedin too.

I guess it depends on who qualifies as a two way center in your book. Personally, I'd say:
Kopitar
Toews
Pavelski
Backstrom
Datsyuk
Barkov
Bergeron
ROR
Stepan

More or less in that order. I wouldn't really consider Crosby or Thornton or Sedin a two-way center. Not to say they don't play effective defense, but it's not really a staple or huge strength in their game like some of the other guys I listed. Not sure I'd even include Backstrom, and Pavelski is kind of a winger.
- rangerdanger94

I think Barkov will be on this list in couple years. But right now i ithink ROR is better. SO you would have him like 6 like me. SO thanks for agreeing somewhat.

And Backstrom is criminally underrated because ......Ovi.
- Mr.Bobby

Monahan and Tavares should be in the top "2 way" C discussion as well

Over the past few years, Crosby's defensive play has been very under appreciated. In Bylsma's later years, I think last 2? Maybe just the last one, Sid was used against the opponents top lines, and usually did very well limiting chances. Thornton's defense is phenomenal. I'll never discredit a guy's defense because they're elite offensively. That's just silly. Sedin too.
- j.boyd919

I guess I just don't watch enough Sharks or Canucks games to appreciate what Thornton and Sedin do defensively

Monahan and Tavares should be in the top "2 way" C discussion as well
- Feds91Stammer

Not Mony...not yet. His game wasnt as strong last season compared to the previous one

I think Barkov will be on this list in couple years. But right now i ithink ROR is better. SO you would have him like 6 like me. SO thanks for agreeing somewhat.
- hanleyaj

Barkov out scored ROR despite playing in less games this year

But yes I am a huge ROR fan. I think as far as two way centers go, there aren't many better than him.

I think Barkov will be on this list in couple years. But right now i ithink ROR is better. SO you would have him like 6 like me. SO thanks for agreeing somewhat.
- hanleyaj

Come on Handjob go and read a Spiegel blog before you dare talk about Barkov you clown

I listed Backstrom but I don't know if he's a stud in his own zone like some of the other guys listed
- rangerdanger94

Wasn't singling you out, just that he is 10 points short of a PPG for his career, yet he rarely pops up on anyones top lists. I can only guess he gets dismissed because of the Ovi factor.