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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 6 @ 6:47 AM ET
it's very simple what will happen:

nylander will eventually start in ahl, marner on leafs.
if/when lupul or michalek gets traded, nylander will take that spot.

- MaximusAurelius



walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 6 @ 7:23 AM ET
I think a lot of people confuse posters who say Marner won't make the team this year (except for a cup of coffee) as an attack on his ability. I don't think there's many that doubt he'll have a fantastic NHL career but I think it's a long shot he sticks with the team this year.
1. It's a number's thing
2. I can't imagine they want to have more than 5 or 6 rookies at any one time.
Zaitsev
Nylander
Matthews
Hyman
Soshnikov
Brown
Carrick

They're the guys I'd say get first dibs for Mike to concentrate on. Along with youngsters (still nearly rookies) such as:
Rychel
Marincin

3. Contract status. I'd imagine management wish to somewhat stagger the big 3 (at the moment).
4. The bigger picture. We still have numerous 1 year vets on the team that (most of) will be flipped for picks throughout the year. We still have Laich, Polak, Hunwick, Lupul, Michalek, Holland, Greening taking up 7 of the 23 spots. Add two tenders, JVR, Kadri, Komarov, Rielly, Gardiner, Marincin, Matthews, Nylander, Zaitsev, Bozak, Martin and you're up to 20 spots.
5. The Shanaplan. I think the value put on draft picks will continue for a while. I don't see the Leafs being a team that'll trade many picks unless it's for a position of dire need (see Andersen). I think the plan to shift expiring contracts for picks will remain for another year.
6. The expansion draft. Making sure they correct players play the right amount of games to be eligible/protected for the draft.

But above all else, TITS

Mornin'
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 6 @ 7:24 AM ET
Donaldson just got beaned. Somebody needs to kick somebody's azz.
- fifty__missions


Baseball - needs to change its rules about pitchers throwing at and hitting players particularly the stars. Who cares about intent, a pitcher hits a guy - he's out of the game and suspended period. Too many dirty teams like Texas, Baltimore, K.C. and the Yankees throw intentionally at our best players - without penalty. If we retaliate - it is the Jays that get penalized.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 6 @ 7:26 AM ET
Baseball - needs to change its rules about pitchers throwing at and hitting players particularly the stars. Who cares about intent, a pitcher hits a guy - he's out of the game and suspended period. Too many dirty teams like Texas, Baltimore, K.C. and the Yankees throw intentionally at our best players - without penalty. If we retaliate - it is the Jays that get penalized.
- winsix

It's crazy for a team so good at pitching like the Royals, how often they unintentionally plunk opposing batters
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 6 @ 7:28 AM ET
I think a lot of people confuse posters who say Marner won't make the team this year (except for a cup of coffee) as an attack on his ability. I don't think there's many that doubt he'll have a fantastic NHL career but I think it's a long shot he sticks with the team this year.
1. It's a number's thing
2. I can't imagine they want to have more than 5 or 6 rookies at any one time.
Zaitsev
Nylander
Matthews
Hyman
Soshnikov
Brown
Carrick

They're the guys I'd say get first dibs for Mike to concentrate on. Along with youngsters (still nearly rookies) such as:
Rychel
Marincin

3. Contract status. I'd imagine management wish to somewhat stagger the big 3 (at the moment).
4. The bigger picture. We still have numerous 1 year vets on the team that (most of) will be flipped for picks throughout the year. We still have Laich, Polak, Hunwick, Lupul, Michalek, Holland, Greening taking up 7 of the 23 spots. Add two tenders, JVR, Kadri, Komarov, Rielly, Gardiner, Marincin, Matthews, Nylander, Zaitsev, Bozak, Martin and you're up to 20 spots.
5. The Shanaplan. I think the value put on draft picks will continue for a while. I don't see the Leafs being a team that'll trade many picks unless it's for a position of dire need (see Andersen). I think the plan to shift expiring contracts for picks will remain for another year.
6. The expansion draft. Making sure they correct players play the right amount of games to be eligible/protected for the draft.

But above all else, TITS

Mornin'

- walshyleafsfan




I think if Marner has a successful camp he makes the team.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 6 @ 7:29 AM ET
It's crazy for a team so good at pitching like the Royals, how often they unintentionally plunk opposing batters
- walshyleafsfan


Real unintentional - like how many times did the Royals hit Goins or Barney?
winsix
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Aug 6 @ 7:34 AM ET
Too bad it wasn't Bautista
- westcoastleaf

Davey_Crockett
Location: Freddie "The Goat" for the Selke!
Joined: 01.31.2013

Aug 6 @ 7:48 AM ET
Suicide Squad is getting poopty reviews. They needed more Deadpool & less Chris Pratt. Tobey McGuire's cameo was kinda fun though
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 6 @ 7:48 AM ET
Baseball - needs to change its rules about pitchers throwing at and hitting players particularly the stars. Who cares about intent, a pitcher hits a guy - he's out of the game and suspended period. Too many dirty teams like Texas, Baltimore, K.C. and the Yankees throw intentionally at our best players - without penalty. If we retaliate - it is the Jays that get penalized.
- winsix

It was an accident. Relax
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 6 @ 7:50 AM ET
Suicide Squad is getting poopty reviews. They needed more Deadpool & less Chris Pratt. Tobey McGuire's cameo was kinda fun though
- Davey_Crockett

It looks pretty sh!tty.
The joker looks horrible.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 6 @ 7:51 AM ET
It was an accident. Relax
- Fakepartofme


Bullshiit Accident, two pitches last year over Donaldson's head, then one behind him, finally they hit him on the fourth attempt. He gets hit in the face after Travis hits one out. Yost is one of the dirtiest managers in baseball - no accident.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 6 @ 7:54 AM ET
Bullshiit Accident, two pitches last year over Donaldson's head, then one behind him, finally they hit him on the fourth attempt. He gets hit in the face after Travis hits one out. Yost is one of the dirtiest managers in baseball - no accident.
- winsix

Yost is a piece of sh!t no doubt.
But it was an accident.
Simply no reason to toss at his face. Just watch the reaction of the pitcher and catcher.
No intent at all.
Relax.
Davey_Crockett
Location: Freddie "The Goat" for the Selke!
Joined: 01.31.2013

Aug 6 @ 7:58 AM ET
It looks pretty sh!tty.
The joker looks horrible.

- Fakepartofme


awesome


classic


Macauley Culkin
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 6 @ 8:00 AM ET
Real unintentional - like how many times did the Royals hit Goins or Barney?
- winsix

Agreed.

I don't think it was intentional last night, but due to the fact they often intentionally throw at batter's heads, I couldn't give a flying (frank). Just wish someone would've stabbed him.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 6 @ 8:00 AM ET
it's very simple what will happen:

nylander will eventually start in ahl, marner on leafs.
if/when lupul or michalek gets traded, nylander will take that spot.

- MaximusAurelius



I'm guessing Joffrey Lupul has already played his last game as a Maple Leaf. Oh, and:

“We’re going the right way,” Babcock said. “We’re not trying to maintain. That maintain part is what kills you. It’s not easy to win in this League. But now, and this is no word of a lie, we’re loaded with kids. Real kids. There’s five or six who are going to score big-time in the NHL.”



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 6 @ 8:02 AM ET
I think a lot of people confuse posters who say Marner won't make the team this year (except for a cup of coffee) as an attack on his ability. I don't think there's many that doubt he'll have a fantastic NHL career but I think it's a long shot he sticks with the team this year.
1. It's a number's thing
2. I can't imagine they want to have more than 5 or 6 rookies at any one time.
Zaitsev
Nylander
Matthews
Hyman
Soshnikov
Brown
Carrick

They're the guys I'd say get first dibs for Mike to concentrate on. Along with youngsters (still nearly rookies) such as:
Rychel
Marincin

3. Contract status. I'd imagine management wish to somewhat stagger the big 3 (at the moment).
4. The bigger picture. We still have numerous 1 year vets on the team that (most of) will be flipped for picks throughout the year. We still have Laich, Polak, Hunwick, Lupul, Michalek, Holland, Greening taking up 7 of the 23 spots. Add two tenders, JVR, Kadri, Komarov, Rielly, Gardiner, Marincin, Matthews, Nylander, Zaitsev, Bozak, Martin and you're up to 20 spots.
5. The Shanaplan. I think the value put on draft picks will continue for a while. I don't see the Leafs being a team that'll trade many picks unless it's for a position of dire need (see Andersen). I think the plan to shift expiring contracts for picks will remain for another year.
6. The expansion draft. Making sure they correct players play the right amount of games to be eligible/protected for the draft.

But above all else, TITS

Mornin'

- walshyleafsfan

Sosh, Hyman and Brown will not get spots before Marner.

The Leafs' future is Marner.

They aren't going to retard his development just so that a guy like Hyman can get 14 goals in the NHL this year.

Good morning, my Leafy friends.
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 6 @ 8:03 AM ET
I'm guessing Joffrey Lupul has already played his last game as a Maple Leaf. Oh, and:

“We’re going the right way,” Babcock said. “We’re not trying to maintain. That maintain part is what kills you. It’s not easy to win in this League. But now, and this is no word of a lie, we’re loaded with kids. Real kids. There’s five or six who are going to score big-time in the NHL.”




- fifty__missions


Very interested to see what happens with Lupul... Especially the way Lou handles the question lol he avoids providing any answer
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 6 @ 8:09 AM ET
I'm guessing Joffrey Lupul has already played his last game as a Maple Leaf.


- fifty__missions

I've yet to see a single plausable explanation of how this can happen.

He won't go to Robidas Island.

Too late to buy him out.

He won't agree to termination of contract.

He won't be claimed on waivers.

It would cost too much to trade him.

Sending him to the AHL is a bad cap move.

What else is there?

Play him until he gets injured. It won't take long.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 6 @ 8:10 AM ET
Yost is a piece of sh!t no doubt.
But it was an accident.
Simply no reason to toss at his face. Just watch the reaction of the pitcher and catcher.
No intent at all.
Relax.

- Fakepartofme


Not today - Tulo sees 7 inside pitches before he gets hit and injured - Accident? NO!
Bautista -in the last at bat where Texas play Jays this year gets plunked
Accident? NO!
Donaldson as the Jays are beating the crap out of the Royals in a series
last year sees two 95+ mph fastballs sail over his head then another
behind him before the pitcher plunks him. Accident NO!
Funny how all these accidents happen the the best players on the team,
it's never Goins or Barney or Carrera.
Glad you think there was no intent.

winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 6 @ 8:14 AM ET
I've yet to see a single plausable explanation of how this can happen.

He won't go to Robidas Island.

Too late to buy him out.

He won't agree to termination of contract.

He won't be claimed on waivers.

It would cost too much to trade him.

Sending him to the AHL is a bad cap move.

What else is there?

Play him until he gets injured. It won't take long.

- Atomic Wedgie


Agree - likely best move by team is to play him on a scoring line and hope he does really well. He does have ability. Four scenarios could possibly emerge.

1) He sucks and plays poorly - Not likely if he plays with talent.
2) He gets injured - Very possible - and he goes on IR at that point
3) He plays well and value goes up and gets moved at the deadline to a contender for picks.
4) He plays well and enough to get exposed in the expansion draft.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 6 @ 8:15 AM ET
Yost is a piece of sh!t no doubt.
But it was an accident.
Simply no reason to toss at his face. Just watch the reaction of the pitcher and catcher.
No intent at all.
Relax.

- Fakepartofme

You're always telling people to relax

relax with the relax advice..

anyways, they didnt mean to hit him in the head, but as winsix was saying, they were pitching at him. Maybe to get him off the plate a bit, maybe to send a signal. I trust nothing when it comes to 3 teams, Royals, Orioles, and the Rangers... Those three teams hate the fact that the Jays are better than them.
winsix
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Aug 6 @ 8:17 AM ET
Agreed.

I don't think it was intentional last night, but due to the fact they often intentionally throw at batter's heads, I couldn't give a flying (frank). Just wish someone would've stabbed him.

- walshyleafsfan

winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
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Aug 6 @ 8:18 AM ET
You're always telling people to relax

relax with the relax advice..

anyways, they didnt mean to hit him in the head, but as winsix was saying, they were pitching at him. Maybe to get him off the plate a bit, maybe to send a signal. I trust nothing when it comes to 3 teams, Royals, Orioles, and the Rangers... Those three teams hate the fact that the Jays are better than them.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Exactly
Trevrrrgavo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.28.2013

Aug 6 @ 8:40 AM ET
I think a lot of people confuse posters who say Marner won't make the team this year (except for a cup of coffee) as an attack on his ability. I don't think there's many that doubt he'll have a fantastic NHL career but I think it's a long shot he sticks with the team this year.
1. It's a number's thing
2. I can't imagine they want to have more than 5 or 6 rookies at any one time.
Zaitsev
Nylander
Matthews
Hyman
Soshnikov
Brown
Carrick

They're the guys I'd say get first dibs for Mike to concentrate on. Along with youngsters (still nearly rookies) such as:
Rychel
Marincin

3. Contract status. I'd imagine management wish to somewhat stagger the big 3 (at the moment).
4. The bigger picture. We still have numerous 1 year vets on the team that (most of) will be flipped for picks throughout the year. We still have Laich, Polak, Hunwick, Lupul, Michalek, Holland, Greening taking up 7 of the 23 spots. Add two tenders, JVR, Kadri, Komarov, Rielly, Gardiner, Marincin, Matthews, Nylander, Zaitsev, Bozak, Martin and you're up to 20 spots.
5. The Shanaplan. I think the value put on draft picks will continue for a while. I don't see the Leafs being a team that'll trade many picks unless it's for a position of dire need (see Andersen). I think the plan to shift expiring contracts for picks will remain for another year.
6. The expansion draft. Making sure they correct players play the right amount of games to be eligible/protected for the draft.

But above all else, TITS

Mornin'

- walshyleafsfan


Agreed. But as usual. Your opinion backed by facts you used to come up with that opinion is shot down by a guy simply saying. But I think Marner will make the team. I'm still watching paint dry.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 6 @ 8:46 AM ET
Agreed. But as usual. Your opinion backed by facts you used to come up with that opinion is shot down by a guy simply saying. But I think Marner will make the team. I'm still watching paint dry.
- Trevrrrgavo



Not sure what you're referring to, but only person that responded to his post was me who said "if he has a successful camp he'll make the team". Are you denying that if he has a good camp and shows he's ready that he will be sent back anyways?

Also, what facts were presented? Those were guesses and hypotheticals.


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