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Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 8:51 AM ET
eye test and advanced stats show a decline
- daeth


please elaborate

i think all the negativity is just unfounded hate personally

mostly derived by subban fans looking for any reason to hate the deal.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Aug 2 @ 8:53 AM ET
Everyone acting like they watch Nashville games

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 2 @ 8:53 AM ET
Everyone acting like they watch Nashville games


- poohcrumbs


I'VE SEEN THE DECLINE!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 8:53 AM ET
Everyone acting like they watch Nashville games


- poohcrumbs




i dont... i am basing my argument off his stats alone... which have done anything but decline
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 2 @ 8:53 AM ET
2018.

PK Subban is traded from the Predators to Toronto due to his affair with Country Music Icon Carrie Underwood.

When asked why he would do this to his team mate Mike Fisher, PK replied "I always tried to learn the culture where I was. When I was in Belleville I learned to sail. When I was in mtl I learned French, when I was in Hamilton I learned to breathe through my mouth.........and when I was in Nashville I got deep into Country."
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 2 @ 8:54 AM ET
please elaborate

i think all the negativity is just unfounded hate personally

mostly derived by subban fans looking for any reason to hate the deal.

- Dozzer

from everyone's favourite stat watcher

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 2 @ 8:54 AM ET
Everyone acting like they watch Nashville games


- poohcrumbs


Yeah but I saw him do a promo with Josi for the All-Star game

DECLINE
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 8:55 AM ET
from everyone's favourite stat watcher


- daeth


so you are basing your argument on shots on goal?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 2 @ 8:55 AM ET
please elaborate

i think all the negativity is just unfounded hate personally

mostly derived by subban fans looking for any reason to hate the deal.

- Dozzer



No, they've been talking about it well before that.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 2 @ 8:55 AM ET
morning fellas, good long weekend?

got a fantasy blog up for those interested (eastern conference prospects top prospects per team)

- Lucas Neilson

Hell yeahhh
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 2 @ 8:56 AM ET
2018.

PK Subban is traded from the Predators to Toronto due to his affair with Country Music Icon Carrie Underwood.

When asked why he would do this to his team mate Mike Fisher, PK replied "I always tried to learn the culture where I was. When I was in Belleville I learned to sail. When I was in mtl I learned French, when I was in Hamilton I learned to breathe through my mouth.........and when I was in Nashville I got deep into Country."

- AdamFrench


daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 2 @ 8:56 AM ET
so you are basing your argument on shots on goal?
- Dozzer

I'm basing it on seeing him not perform as well as he used to and the advanced stats backing it up.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 8:57 AM ET
No, they've been talking about it well before that.
- burn


the advanced metrics guys sure... but there are holes in advanced metric logic...

corsi for example can be directly related to overall team play and not so much on the individual
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 2 @ 8:57 AM ET
so you are basing your argument on shots on goal?
- Dozzer


Hedman was declining but it stopped last year.

Tampa must be relieved.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 8:57 AM ET
I'm basing it on seeing him not perform as well as he used to and the advanced stats backing it up.
- daeth


how often did you watch nashville games?

be honest.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 2 @ 8:58 AM ET
how often did you watch nashville games?

be honest.

- Dozzer

How about you? Where's your argument?
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Aug 2 @ 8:58 AM ET


i dont... i am basing my argument off his stats alone... which have done anything but decline

- Dozzer


Jk
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 2 @ 9:00 AM ET
This debate is getting into pretty muddy territory
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Aug 2 @ 9:00 AM ET
the advanced metrics guys sure... but there are holes in advanced metric logic...

corsi for example can be directly related to overall team play and not so much on the individual

- Dozzer


Id like to see a stat that shows turnovers that lead to direct goals. Dion would of been near the top. Im sure PK would be up there too
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 2 @ 9:01 AM ET
Id like to see a stat that shows turnovers that lead to direct goals. Dion would of been near the top. Im sure PK would be up there too
- poohcrumbs


And Gardiner
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
This debate is getting into pretty muddy territory
- TheMussel

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
How about you? Where's your argument?
- daeth


nice deflection

i already admitted that my arguments are based off his stats

now are you going to answer the question or do you intend to keep side stepping it?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
how often did you watch nashville games?

be honest.

- Dozzer

I probably watched 10-15 Nashville game last year and he looked fine to me.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 2 @ 9:03 AM ET
nice deflection

i already admitted that my arguments are based off his stats

now are you going to answer the question or do you intend to keep side stepping it?

- Dozzer

Dude there's not even a convo to be had if you're going the "do you even watch the games" route.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 9:03 AM ET
Id like to see a stat that shows turnovers that lead to direct goals. Dion would of been near the top. Im sure PK would be up there too
- poohcrumbs


or how about offensive zone starts vs defensive zone starts?

not to mention he played in the west which is typically the more offensive conference
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