Are the Sens getting Sam Bennett?
Pierre Dorion guaranteed him to be back (tsn radio talking about it atm).

If Bennett plays center .... then who are sens getting back? Are we talking offer sheet?
- AlfieisKing

When a player (or team) has filed for arbitration, the player in question cannot be offer sheeted...

Unless the return is huge and in favor of Ottawa, they would be stupid to trade Hoffman.

Only players could see ottawa being interested in (and who would be fair value) are monaghan, gaudreau, Bennett, or tkachuk.......and I can't see the flames moving any of them.

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.....As in Enormous pile of BS
- stowerkraut

e as is e1, e2, e3, e4, and e5.

I doubt it would be Bennett. Not that I do not think its fair value but Johnny Hockey and Monahan are going to eat the rest of our cap, so Flames would have to shed salary in order to make this happen, and trading Bennett who is still on his ELC doesn't help.
- CapeBreton_er

fair points.... who would Flames give?

Sens top 4 is set and it would have to be a LW??

When a player (or team) has filed for arbitration, the player in question cannot be offer sheeted...
- Raven33

good point

Any "buzz" on Rick Nash to Buffalo tomorrow?

fair points.... who would Flames give?

Sens top 4 is set and it would have to be a LW??

good point
- AlfieisKing

I guess it would depend on the asking price. Flames are deep in LW prospects(Poirier, Klimchuck, Shinkaruk, Tkachuck, Magiapane) and D prospects (Kylington, Andersson, Morrison, Culkin, Kulak) some who could make the jump to NHL. So if the asking price was prospects and picks then we have the assets. Of course we would have to dump salary somewhere else.
We are loaded down the middle but I think you guys are deep there as well. Lots of bottom 6 players but obviously they don't get it done. I am fairly certain this trade will not happen however

I am amazed he wasn't perceived as a threat and shot when he tried to turn himself in
- TheGame316

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fair points.... who would Flames give?

Sens top 4 is set and it would have to be a LW??

good point
- AlfieisKing

I'm not sure I see the fit here either, only thing I could see making sense would be something like

Frolik
Jokipaka/Wideman at 50%
Prospect/Pick/bottom 6 roster player

for

Hoffman

Frolik helps replace the loss of Hoffman for less $. Jokipaka is on contract for 900 k and could help bolster the d. Not really sure what Ottawa needs but it's looking like Ottawa is hoping to make a playoff push the next couple of years.

It seems like the Sens aren't sold on Hoffman and they don't want to dish out $ long term. The players in this trade would cost less than what Hoffman's likely to get in arbitration.

Frolik would be about as high end of a player as you could pry for Hoffman. Bennett, Money, Johnny, Tkachuk or our top 3 defense would not make any sense in a trade for Hoffman.

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I raise you...

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- wolfhounds

Not really sure what Ottawa needs but it's looking like Ottawa is hoping to make a playoff push the next couple of years.
- Saskabush

Sens need a depth RW...ya know...to replace Chiasson, who is now on the Flames.

Sens would like ot have some depth D, which Jokipakka might help with. But I still don't see why the Flames would be looking to get another left shot winger, when the team is full of left shots. They need right shots, which is also what the Sens would like behind Ryan and Stone. At least that is how I see it.

Only players could see ottawa being interested in (and who would be fair value) are monaghan, gaudreau, Bennett, or tkachuk.......and I can't see the flames moving any of them.
- sensarmy_11

I'm sorry did you say gaudreau has the same value as Hoffman..... That's a real joke right there even Monahan... Because he is a centre he is worth more. Also tkachuk is probably worth more because of how much potential the kid had. And if you don't agree with that would you trade the 6th overall pick for Hoffman.. Hell no

The only one I could see being fair bennett and that's still a hell no from Calgary

If this trade happens it'll be for vets like wideman and a b level prospect to free up cap

I guess it would depend on the asking price. Flames are deep in LW prospects(Poirier, Klimchuck, Shinkaruk, Tkachuck, Magiapane) and D prospects (Kylington, Andersson, Morrison, Culkin, Kulak) some who could make the jump to NHL. So if the asking price was prospects and picks then we have the assets. Of course we would have to dump salary somewhere else.
We are loaded down the middle but I think you guys are deep there as well. Lots of bottom 6 players but obviously they don't get it done. I am fairly certain this trade will not happen however
- CapeBreton_er

I doubt the asking price are futures. Ottawa is in a win-now mode believe it or not.

I'm not sure I see the fit here either, only thing I could see making sense would be something like

Frolik
Jokipaka/Wideman at 50%
Prospect/Pick/bottom 6 roster player

for

Hoffman

Frolik helps replace the loss of Hoffman for less $. Jokipaka is on contract for 900 k and could help bolster the d. Not really sure what Ottawa needs but it's looking like Ottawa is hoping to make a playoff push the next couple of years.

It seems like the Sens aren't sold on Hoffman and they don't want to dish out $ long term. The players in this trade would cost less than what Hoffman's likely to get in arbitration.

Frolik would be about as high end of a player as you could pry for Hoffman. Bennett, Money, Johnny, Tkachuk or our top 3 defense would not make any sense in a trade for Hoffman.
- Saskabush

Garbage.

does anyone know the e for hoffman to CGY?

does anyone know the e for hoffman to CGY?
- thejonathans

69

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- Tumbleweed

e69 doesn't exist.

e69 doesn't exist.
- thejonathans

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I'm sorry did you say gaudreau has the same value as Hoffman..... That's a real joke right there even Monahan... Because he is a centre he is worth more. Also tkachuk is probably worth more because of how much potential the kid had. And if you don't agree with that would you trade the 6th overall pick for Hoffman.. Hell no

The only one I could see being fair bennett and that's still a hell no from Calgary

If this trade happens it'll be for vets like wideman and a b level prospect to free up cap
- Bigalow

Didn't mean that all those guys were one for one value.....those are the only guys who you have who I feel are worth as much, or more (so sens add something to hoffman) to be worth the trade for ottawa. Gaudreau is clearly worth more than hoffman straight up.

I'm sorry did you say gaudreau has the same value as Hoffman..... That's a real joke right there even Monahan... Because he is a centre he is worth more. Also tkachuk is probably worth more because of how much potential the kid had. And if you don't agree with that would you trade the 6th overall pick for Hoffman.. Hell no

The only one I could see being fair bennett and that's still a hell no from Calgary

If this trade happens it'll be for vets like wideman and a b level prospect to free up cap
- Bigalow

That suggestion is dumber than saying hoffman straight up for gaudreau. Why would ottawa trade a 26 year old 30 goal scorer for a b level prospect and dman who probably has negative value? We're u sniffing paint this morning?

Garbage.
- TheCalSen

Kind of like the Sens ownership?



Frolik isn't nothing either. Possession driver, excellent defensively and can score goals when needed.

That suggestion is dumber than saying hoffman straight up for gaudreau. Why would ottawa trade a 26 year old 30 goal scorer for a b level prospect and dman who probably has negative value? We're u sniffing paint this morning?
- sensarmy_11

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Sens need a depth RW...ya know...to replace Chiasson, who is now on the Flames.

Sens would like ot have some depth D, which Jokipakka might help with. But I still don't see why the Flames would be looking to get another left shot winger, when the team is full of left shots. They need right shots, which is also what the Sens would like behind Ryan and Stone. At least that is how I see it.
- MaxTLimit

We are short 2 top 6 wingers which is what Hoffman's appeal could be to BT.

Tkachuk might not be ready for top 6 minutes for a few years and we might be planning on converting him to RW. We need someone to play with Bennett (Frolik plays well with Backlund so Bennett didn't really have anyone to play with last year).

If there's any truth to this rumour Frolik is the only guy I can see BT dangling (along with some depth d/wingers). I don't think it makes a lot of sense but the only reason that I think Ottawa might do it would be to bolster the roster without spending any more money.

A normal ownership group probably would just spend the extra dollars...but Melnyk?

We are short 2 top 6 wingers which is what Hoffman's appeal could be to BT.

Tkachuk might not be ready for top 6 minutes for a few years and we might be planning on converting him to RW. We need someone to play with Bennett (Frolik plays well with Backlund so Bennett didn't really have anyone to play with last year).

If there's any truth to this rumour Frolik is the only guy I can see BT dangling (along with some depth d/wingers). I don't think it makes a lot of sense but the only reason that I think Ottawa might do it would be to bolster the roster without spending any more money.

A normal ownership group probably would just spend the extra dollars...but Melnyk?
- Saskabush

Adding frolik at the expense of hoffman isn't "bolstering" the roster, it's "significantly downgrading" the roster.

Adding frolik at the expense of hoffman isn't "bolstering" the roster, it's "significantly downgrading" the roster.
- sensarmy_11

Frolik’s remaining salary is 5/4/4/3.

Seems like a melynk special