sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Evander Kane is a flawed human just like all of us. The only difference is he plays professional sports so people get all butthurt when he does something wrong. Let's look at the facts here though shall we?
1) He has the sexual assault thing that resulted from a drunk girl hooking up with him. She never even claimed she was raped, but the hospital was mandated to report because she couldn't remember exactly what happened. This would never make the news if it happened to any of us. The worst parts about that incident are that he cheated on his gf and slept with a drunk girl. Both of those things are of dubious character, but they aren't indicative of some menace to society.
2) The NBA All-Star game situation was next. He takes a short flight to Toronto and oversleeps the next day and misses practice. Is it irresponsible? Yes. My question is what early 20s male in here has never drank the night before a workday and overslept or gone to work hungover? My guess is many of us have. Again, it's only news because he's a pro sports player. I could call into work tomorrow for the same thing and probably wouldn't even receive a slap on the wrist.
3) The most recent incident is the real first 'bad apple' behavior in my opinion. He has too much to drink at a bar that is paying him to appear and depending on which version of the story you believe, says or does some rotten things. I believe that if the BPD had video of him choking a woman and trying to shove her in his car that they would have filed more than non-criminal harassment charges. I think he probably got drunk and mouthed off to some people and this was the result. I obviously wasn't there, and if for some reason there was video of him choking a woman that surfaced I would think much differently, but as things stand I believe this was not that big of a deal. The charges levied against him would support that opinion.
Meanwhile, in the shadow of all the judgements being cast against him, people forgot about things that are proven facts, such as the FACT that he took dozens of kids from the local Boys and Girls Club to dinner and Dave and Buster's and right before Christmas he took a group of 50 to dinner at Chef's and bussed them all to Target and gave them $200 give cards. What a horrible person, right? Would I like for him to stay out of the news? Absolutely. He could stand to grow up some and be self-aware enough to realize he is a target and surround himself with people and situations that aren't going to have the potential to harm him and his character. However, the depiction of the guy as some immoral rogue citizen off the ice is largely overblown to me. - Pierceme69
No, he is not like all of us. He plays professional hockey where he makes millions of dollars. He's also held to a higher to standard than other athletes as unfair as that may be.
People need to stop making these general statements like "We all make mistakes"
If I get into a bar fight, I'm not making the news. If I sleep in for work, I'm not making the news. If my peers don't like me, and want me to go work for a different company, I'm not making the news. If I donate to charity, I'm not making the news.
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Evander Kane is a flawed human just like all of us. The only difference is he plays professional sports so people get all butthurt when he does something wrong. Let's look at the facts here though shall we?
1) He has the sexual assault thing that resulted from a drunk girl hooking up with him. She never even claimed she was raped, but the hospital was mandated to report because she couldn't remember exactly what happened. This would never make the news if it happened to any of us. The worst parts about that incident are that he cheated on his gf and slept with a drunk girl. Both of those things are of dubious character, but they aren't indicative of some menace to society.
2) The NBA All-Star game situation was next. He takes a short flight to Toronto and oversleeps the next day and misses practice. Is it irresponsible? Yes. My question is what early 20s male in here has never drank the night before a workday and overslept or gone to work hungover? My guess is many of us have. Again, it's only news because he's a pro sports player. I could call into work tomorrow for the same thing and probably wouldn't even receive a slap on the wrist.
3) The most recent incident is the real first 'bad apple' behavior in my opinion. He has too much to drink at a bar that is paying him to appear and depending on which version of the story you believe, says or does some rotten things. I believe that if the BPD had video of him choking a woman and trying to shove her in his car that they would have filed more than non-criminal harassment charges. I think he probably got drunk and mouthed off to some people and this was the result. I obviously wasn't there, and if for some reason there was video of him choking a woman that surfaced I would think much differently, but as things stand I believe this was not that big of a deal. The charges levied against him would support that opinion.
Meanwhile, in the shadow of all the judgements being cast against him, people forgot about things that are proven facts, such as the FACT that he took dozens of kids from the local Boys and Girls Club to dinner and Dave and Buster's and right before Christmas he took a group of 50 to dinner at Chef's and bussed them all to Target and gave them $200 give cards. What a horrible person, right? Would I like for him to stay out of the news? Absolutely. He could stand to grow up some and be self-aware enough to realize he is a target and surround himself with people and situations that aren't going to have the potential to harm him and his character. However, the depiction of the guy as some immoral rogue citizen off the ice is largely overblown to me. - Pierceme69
I don't dispute any of this. I don't think he is a terrible human being, nor did I ever say he was. This is solely about making the team better. And keeping a player that scores only 20 goals, can't seem to last a full season, with a $6 million cap hit, all while bwing seemingly incapable of creating a distraction for all the wrong reasons, doesn't do that, no matter how many charitable endeavors he performs. I don’t look to players for their charitable efforts. That's not to say they are bad things, bit there are plenty of non celebrities making more of an impact in that regard with fewer resources that never get noticed. It's solely about winning hockey games, and right now, all things considered, this team is a better one with Evander Kane off of it.
There are players that have enough of an impact on the team that are worth keeping around, despite the distractions. Evander Kane isn't one of them. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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No, he is not like all of us. He plays professional hockey where he makes millions of dollars. He's also held to a higher to standard than other athletes as unfair as that may be.
People need to stop making these general statements like "We all make mistakes"
If I get into a bar fight, I'm not making the news. If I sleep in for work, I'm not making the news. If my peers don't like me, and want me to go work for a different company, I'm not making the news. If I donate to charity, I'm not making the news. - sbroads24
Nor do you get paid like you would either... |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Evander Kane is a flawed human just like all of us. The only difference is he plays professional sports so people get all butthurt when he does something wrong. Let's look at the facts here though shall we?
1) He has the sexual assault thing that resulted from a drunk girl hooking up with him. She never even claimed she was raped, but the hospital was mandated to report because she couldn't remember exactly what happened. This would never make the news if it happened to any of us. The worst parts about that incident are that he cheated on his gf and slept with a drunk girl. Both of those things are of dubious character, but they aren't indicative of some menace to society.
2) The NBA All-Star game situation was next. He takes a short flight to Toronto and oversleeps the next day and misses practice. Is it irresponsible? Yes. My question is what early 20s male in here has never drank the night before a workday and overslept or gone to work hungover? My guess is many of us have. Again, it's only news because he's a pro sports player. I could call into work tomorrow for the same thing and probably wouldn't even receive a slap on the wrist.
3) The most recent incident is the real first 'bad apple' behavior in my opinion. He has too much to drink at a bar that is paying him to appear and depending on which version of the story you believe, says or does some rotten things. I believe that if the BPD had video of him choking a woman and trying to shove her in his car that they would have filed more than non-criminal harassment charges. I think he probably got drunk and mouthed off to some people and this was the result. I obviously wasn't there, and if for some reason there was video of him choking a woman that surfaced I would think much differently, but as things stand I believe this was not that big of a deal. The charges levied against him would support that opinion.
Meanwhile, in the shadow of all the judgements being cast against him, people forgot about things that are proven facts, such as the FACT that he took dozens of kids from the local Boys and Girls Club to dinner and Dave and Buster's and right before Christmas he took a group of 50 to dinner at Chef's and bussed them all to Target and gave them $200 give cards. What a horrible person, right? Would I like for him to stay out of the news? Absolutely. He could stand to grow up some and be self-aware enough to realize he is a target and surround himself with people and situations that aren't going to have the potential to harm him and his character. However, the depiction of the guy as some immoral rogue citizen off the ice is largely overblown to me. - Pierceme69
This is the most non epic post ever but it is absolutely right!
Senior golf clap for you sir (have to clap a little louder on the senior tour so they can hear you)
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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No, he is not like all of us. He plays professional hockey where he makes millions of dollars. He's also held to a higher to standard than other athletes as unfair as that may be.
People need to stop making these general statements like "We all make mistakes"
If I get into a bar fight, I'm not making the news. If I sleep in for work, I'm not making the news. If my peers don't like me, and want me to go work for a different company, I'm not making the news. If I donate to charity, I'm not making the news. - sbroads24
https://youtu.be/4gqk4WPnrpM |
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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 02.13.2007
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No, he is not like all of us. He plays professional hockey where he makes millions of dollars. He's also held to a higher to standard than other athletes as unfair as that may be.
People need to stop making these general statements like "We all make mistakes"
If I get into a bar fight, I'm not making the news. If I sleep in for work, I'm not making the news. If my peers don't like me, and want me to go work for a different company, I'm not making the news. If I donate to charity, I'm not making the news. - sbroads24
You just made my point for me. The things Kane did are not even news worthy if he isn't an athlete, yet people make it seem like this guy is Aaron Hernandez. |
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oldhockeyfan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: North of Toronto, ON Joined: 01.29.2014
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Does this not sound like a good set up for the base of a civil suit? The charges are minimal, but could be worth something to a person looking to make some money off the hockey hero. |
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this current thing looks like Kane's mistake was getting involved in some poop that others started and making a problem worse while trying to fix it. - Der Kaiser
You are flat out delusional. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Yea the problem was social media is not Kane posting about the event . It is the magpies that dwell on it and beat a subject to death . On any internet forum even hockey ones . Innocent till proven guilty is now Guilty till proven innocent. Due to these so called experts that are far too impressed with their own opinions and the drama queens that over react even opportunity they have. Time to move on and get a life outside the internet . Go stand on a street corner yell your opinions to whoever will listen.. - Maximum Signal
Wait...so Kane is a stand up and class guy and the rest of us are all wrong? |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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You just made my point for me. The things Kane did are not even news worthy if he isn't an athlete, yet people make it seem like this guy is Aaron Hernandez. - Pierceme69
Newsworthy is one thing, but being held accountable is another. Famous people have to deal with extra scrutiny but at the same time get the pay and the perks, so it evens out.
I'll tell you what tho, Joe the plumber who exhibits the same behaviour as Kane will certainly be held accountable by the Law, his peers his employers, etc and so should ,and I suspect will , Kane.
Personally, I think he's a goof but if you guys like him I have no problem with him remaining a Sabre forever. |
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I hope he stays and proves all of us wrong by being a good teammate and citizen. - mhp
Let's see . . . what might be the chances of this happening? |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Pierceme69
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 02.13.2007
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Newsworthy is one thing, but being held accountable is another. Famous people have to deal with extra scrutiny but at the same time get the pay and the perks, so it evens out.
I'll tell you what tho, Joe the plumber who exhibits the same behaviour as Kane will certainly be held accountable by the Law, his peers his employers, etc and so should ,and I suspect will , Kane.
Personally, I think he's a goof but if you guys like him I have no problem with him remaining a Sabre forever. - Jeropotato
Joe the plumber wouldn't have been charged because no one would have even known who he was. If Kane choked a woman he deserves everything he gets, but it seems based on the actual charges the police have evidence to support that likely didn't happen. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Joe the plumber wouldn't have been charged because no one would have even known who he was. If Kane choked a woman he deserves everything he gets, but it seems based on the actual charges the police have evidence to support that likely didn't happen. - Pierceme69
So if he isn't being charged with choking her, what's the problem? You guys can defend him all you want, but there's more than enough smoke around this guy that I can't believe it's continental wide media conspiracy. It's far more likely that he really is just an bumhole. But hey, if 17-20 goals is worth the trade off to you guys, I don't have an issue with it. |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Hope he never gets a speeding ticket . Could have been real bad around these parts . |
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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Wait...so Kane is a stand up and class guy and the rest of us are all wrong? - Jeropotato
Never said that but the magpies on the internet along with the drama queens just beat a subject to death as if he assasinated the president . Get a hobby.
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