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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Sign RW Alex Grenier and D Andrey Pedan to 2-Way Deals The Vancouver Canucks signed their last two restricted free agents on Tuesday, defenceman Andrey Pedan and right wing Alex Grenier. Both are on one-year, two-way deals.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
Thanks Carol!!
Greg7705
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jul 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
When's the Kane trade gonna happen ? 👶
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
Negrin...
Rocket_Launcher
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 06.10.2016

Jul 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Just because the Leafs trolled the Canucks by picking up, never playing, and soon will be cutting Corrado - I don't think the Canucks should be worried about sending Pedan down. Corrado simply lost his spot to Hutton. If Pedan can pull a Hutton and open some eyes - well, that would be awesome. He has a lot of potential, but is still very much a replacement player at this time. That said, its amazing how this market can get caught up on replacement players.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Just because the Leafs trolled the Canucks by picking up, never playing, and soon will be cutting Corrado - I don't think the Canucks should be worried about sending Pedan down. Corrado simply lost his spot to Hutton. If Pedan can pull a Hutton and open some eyes - well, that would be awesome. He has a lot of potential, but is still very much a replacement player at this time. That said, its amazing how this market can get caught up on replacement players.
- Rocket_Launcher

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
When's the Kane trade gonna happen ? 👶
- Greg7705

Hopefully soon...we need some explosions around here...
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 20 @ 2:02 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Just because the Leafs trolled the Canucks by picking up, never playing, and soon will be cutting Corrado - I don't think the Canucks should be worried about sending Pedan down. Corrado simply lost his spot to Hutton. If Pedan can pull a Hutton and open some eyes - well, that would be awesome. He has a lot of potential, but is still very much a replacement player at this time. That said, its amazing how this market can get caught up on replacement players.
- Rocket_Launcher


I dont think the Canucks will be worried, but I think they will be more conscious of it. Like if Stecher pulls a Hutton, I still think they will choose to send him down rather than keep him ahead of waiver players like Pedan
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
I dont think the Canucks will be worried, but I think they will be more conscious of it. Like if Stecher pulls a Hutton, I still think they will choose to send him down rather than keep him ahead of waiver players like Pedan
- WhiteLie


No way.....This team is going to be trying to ice the most competitive team possible. If Stecher somehow pulls a rabbit out of his ass and makes the team they will be stoked and still keep Hutton in the lineup.

I can't believe some here ( not you specifically Whitelie) have built this Corrado drama up. The only reason people cared about Corrado being waived and subsequently claimed was because it was unnecessary.

If lets say Pedan or whoever is waived but again the team could of kept him on the roster, I'm sure people will be critical again but it has nothing to do with losing a depth player.
Rocket_Launcher
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 06.10.2016

Jul 20 @ 2:25 PM ET
No way.....This team is going to be trying to ice the most competitive team possible. If Stecher somehow pulls a rabbit out of their ass and makes the team they will be stoked and still keep Hutton in the lineup.

I can't believe some here ( not you specifically Whitelie) have built this Corrado drama up. The only reason people cared about Corrado being waived and subsequently claimed was because it was unnecessary.

If lets say Pedan or whoever is waived but again the team could of kept him on the roster, I'm sure people will be critical again but it has nothing to do with losing a depth player.

- belcherbd


It doesn't help when Corrado was picked up by the Leafs, and the national media trolls working for Sportsnet and TSN lambasting Benning for "asset management". The waiver wire is filled with young former first round picks (Gormley, Tinordi, Bleakley, Cowen, Pajaarvi, etc..) getting punted to the minors or given away for an order of poutine - but because its nationally fashionable to crap on the Canucks (thank you Ron Mclean) - having a 5th round pick not make the team and put on waivers is national news.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
No way.....This team is going to be trying to ice the most competitive team possible. If Stecher somehow pulls a rabbit out of his ass and makes the team they will be stoked and still keep Hutton in the lineup.

I can't believe some here ( not you specifically Whitelie) have built this Corrado drama up. The only reason people cared about Corrado being waived and subsequently claimed was because it was unnecessary.

If lets say Pedan or whoever is waived but again the team could of kept him on the roster, I'm sure people will be critical again but it has nothing to do with losing a depth player.

- belcherbd

You are leaving out details....Corrado lost his spot to Hutton and true to their word, the Canucks sent him to the minors. You don't reward a fringe player with an NHL salary when he showed up to camp unprepared. Also, Linden and Benning both stated that it was better for Corrado's development to play big minutes in Utica than sit in the press box. but don't worry about those details

Edit. they tried to do right by the player as well as sending a message to other prospects and fringe roster players that they aren't going to gift spots.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
It doesn't help when Corrado was picked up by the Leafs, and the national media trolls working for Sportsnet and TSN lambasting Benning for "asset management". The waiver wire is filled with young former first round picks (Gormley, Tinordi, Bleakley, Cowen, Pajaarvi, etc..) getting punted to the minors or given away for an order of poutine - but because its nationally fashionable to crap on the Canucks (thank you Ron Mclean
- Rocket_Launcher[/b
]) - having a 5th round pick not make the team and put on waivers is national news.

True True.

And why do we care what happens with Corrado anyways? When Bieksa was on his way out, Corrado had free reign to steal that spot and was given every opportunity to do it. He didn't. plain and simple.

oops sorry about the bold I am not mad or yelling
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
It doesn't help when Corrado was picked up by the Leafs, and the national media trolls working for Sportsnet and TSN lambasting Benning for "asset management". The waiver wire is filled with young former first round picks (Gormley, Tinordi, Bleakley, Cowen, Pajaarvi, etc..) getting punted to the minors or given away for an order of poutine - but because its nationally fashionable to crap on the Canucks (thank you Ron Mclean) - having a 5th round pick not make the team and put on waivers is national news.
- Rocket_Launcher


Sure, I think that's relevant and generally Canuck fans hate anything to do with the leafs. I don't think there was much national criticism though, it was mostly local media criticizing Benning.

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
It doesn't help when Corrado was picked up by the Leafs, and the national media trolls working for Sportsnet and TSN lambasting Benning for "asset management". The waiver wire is filled with young former first round picks (Gormley, Tinordi, Bleakley, Cowen, Pajaarvi, etc..) getting punted to the minors or given away for an order of poutine - but because its nationally fashionable to crap on the Canucks (thank you Ron Mclean) - having a 5th round pick not make the team and put on waivers is national news.
- Rocket_Launcher


I agree with most of this and also do believe it's fashionable for media to criticize Benning...1040 anyone. But also as belcherbd states this forum went hysterical, as evident by Corrado name continually being brought up as wasted asset management.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
True True.

And why do we care what happens with Corrado anyways? When Bieksa was on his way out, Corrado had free reign to steal that spot and was given every opportunity to do it. He didn't. plain and simple.

oops sorry about the bold I am not mad or yelling

- LordHumungous

My (frank)ing ears hurt.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
I agree with most of this and also do believe it's fashionable for media to criticize Benning...1040 anyone. But also as belcherbd states this forum went hysterical, as evident by Corrado name continually being brought up as wasted asset management.
- Makita

You can't reward a kid with an NHL salary to sit in the press box when other young players have out played him. If the organization viewed him as an asset they would have kept him. I am sure they explored trading him and determined he had no value.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
Maybe we can trade Tanev for RNH straight up... that'd help us out with the future 1C conundrum...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
At least Carol has weighted in and said that she thinks Grenier and Pedan would both clear waivers.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
You can't reward a kid with an NHL salary to sit in the press box when other young players have out played him. If the organization viewed him as an asset they would have kept him. I am sure they explored trading him and determined he had no value.
- CanuckDon

Corrado's almost finished... the leafs ruined another young player by sitting him for so long he spoiled....
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
F Cole Cassels
F Brendan Gaunce
F Joseph LaBate
F Mackenzie Stewart
F Carter Bancks - Veteran - (Signed two-year AHL deal with Comets on 6/3.)
F Wacey Hamilton - Vet Exempt - (Signed two-year AHL deal with Comets on 6/3.)
F Curtis Valk
D Anton Cederholm
D Evan McEneny
D Ashton Sautner
D Jordan Subban
G Richard Bachman - Signed one year extension through 2017-18 on 7/13.
F Yan-Pavel LaPlante
D Troy Stecher
G Thatcher Demko
G Michael Garteig
D Tom Nilsson
F Michael Chaput - Vet Exempt - (Signed two-way deal with Canucks on 7/1.)
F Borna Rendulic - (Signed two-way deal with Canucks on 7/1.)
F Jayson Megna - Vet Exempt - (Signed one-way deal with Canucks on 7/1).
D Chad Billins - (Signed two-way deal with Canucks on 7/1.)
D Andrey Pedan - Signed with Vancouver on 7/19.
F Alexandre Grenier - Signed with Vancouver on 7/19.
F Darren Archibald (AHL) - Veteran Exempt - Signed AHL deal with Utica on 7/6.
D John Negrin (AHL) - Signed to an AHL deak with Comets 7/19.
D David Shields (PTO) - Signed to an AHL deal with Comets on 7/11.

Utica looks like the team is coming together

EDIT: F Michael Carcone
F Michael Zalewski
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
F Cole Cassels
F Brendan Gaunce
F Joseph LaBate
F Mackenzie Stewart...
.
.
.

- manvanfan


I think I saw Benning or Linden confirm that the forward experiment is over with Stewart and that they will try him at D again. I doubt he ends up in Utica.

Gartieg is also not very likely to be in Utica unless they plan on carrying 3 goalies.

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
Hard to say, I would rather Demko/Gartieg start in Utica and Bachman is just for expansion use. Keep bachman up to give the kids a rest/take over if needed.
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
Does anybody remember the date Corrado went on waivers? I propose that on the anniversary there shall be a British Columbia Day of Mourning to remember the injustice of losing Corrado and to decry the high crimes and misdemeanours of Jim Benning for the felony of poor asset management(trademark pending)
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:43 PM ET
No way.....This team is going to be trying to ice the most competitive team possible. If Stecher somehow pulls a rabbit out of his ass and makes the team they will be stoked and still keep Hutton in the lineup.

I can't believe some here ( not you specifically Whitelie) have built this Corrado drama up. The only reason people cared about Corrado being waived and subsequently claimed was because it was unnecessary.

If lets say Pedan or whoever is waived but again the team could of kept him on the roster, I'm sure people will be critical again but it has nothing to do with losing a depth player.

- belcherbd


This is unrelated to Corrado to me, though I do think that the Canucks brass took a lot of heat so they will be more conscious of it in the future.

For me the reason I think they will be more patient with someone like Stecher/Juolevi/Miracle D, is that if he does what Hutton did, where can you slot him? He has to beat out one of the top 6 to not be a pressbox player like they didnt want Corrado to be. So one of Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson, Hutton, Sbisa, Tryamkin are too valuable to lose for nothing and thus I see Stecher (in this example) still going to Utica until they can clear room for him should he pull the miracle
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