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mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jul 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
5 years 25 million, just get it done
- jimbro83





Two hours before the hearing this will happen.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
Faith No More is thrilled
- mdw7413


youre thinking of Tom's best friend

Dan Boyle
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
Faith No More is thrilled
- mdw7413

That's Dan Boyle

Although horses everywhere are happy they get their teeth back
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
youre thinking of Tom's best friend

Dan Boyle

- mrn22



Oh yeah. I get all Toms most hated players mixed up.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
That's Dan Boyle

Although horses everywhere are happy they get their teeth back

- TPC


Every time I see Brad smile I think of the scene in There's Something About Mary when Matt Dillon gets his teeth capped and the bartender calls him chompers.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 4:23 PM ET
Every time I see Brad smile I think of the scene in There's Something About Mary when Matt Dillon gets his teeth capped and the bartender calls him chompers.
- mdw7413

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
NYR announce they have resigned Dan Boyle 1 year at 2 million per
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jul 20 @ 4:37 PM ET
tpc on the other hand


- NYRangers1124



Who is that?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
Who is that?
- tbreinold

Malia Obama
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
Who is that?
- tbreinold

loren conrad. still smokkin hot too

she was on the hills back in the day
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jul 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
Malia Obama
- eichiefs9


She got that disease Michael Jackson had?
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
Can afford it. Will get $5M from NYR next season
And $1M a year the next 9...

- 21peter

Someone can read
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
She got that disease Michael Jackson had?
- tbreinold

Which one was that?

The one where you die if a doctor injects you with too large of an amount of non-prescribed sedative?
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
I wouldn't give Kreider any more than $4.25M - 4.5M on a long term deal. He has no stick handling ability and no moves, those aren't learned at this point in your career. His assets are his size and his speed, and he goes games without using them which is why people on here are so torn on him. Some love his potential and see that as reality, others see his potential as wasted talent.
I want him to be who his potential says he can be, but dont think it ever happens. He should score 30 a year with his potential and opportunity (Linemates, Time on Ice, PP, etc)

5 years $22.5M no more. After year 3 he is a bargain at 4.25/year, or he is a bust and the 4.25M isn't as bad as Girardi / Stall in terms of dollars vs cap hit %.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
Someone can read
- Bean_Dip

Multiple languages
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
I wouldn't give Kreider any more than $4.25M - 4.5M on a long term deal. He has no stick handling ability and no moves, those aren't learned at this point in your career. His assets are his size and his speed, and he goes games without using them which is why people on here are so torn on him. Some love his potential and see that as reality, others see his potential as wasted talent.
I want him to be who his potential says he can be, but dont think it ever happens. He should score 30 a year with his potential and opportunity (Linemates, Time on Ice, PP, etc)

5 years $22.5M no more. After year 3 he is a bargain at 4.25/year, or he is a bust and the 4.25M isn't as bad as Girardi / Stall in terms of dollars vs cap hit %.

- MiloslavHorava

Guess you must've missed that the Rangers opening offer is 4.75
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
I wouldn't give Kreider any more than $4.25M - 4.5M on a long term deal. He has no stick handling ability and no moves, those aren't learned at this point in your career. His assets are his size and his speed, and he goes games without using them which is why people on here are so torn on him. Some love his potential and see that as reality, others see his potential as wasted talent.
I want him to be who his potential says he can be, but dont think it ever happens. He should score 30 a year with his potential and opportunity (Linemates, Time on Ice, PP, etc)

5 years $22.5M no more. After year 3 he is a bargain at 4.25/year, or he is a bust and the 4.25M isn't as bad as Girardi / Stall in terms of dollars vs cap hit %.

- MiloslavHorava


how does Kreider only get that when Killhorn gets 7 years 31 mil?
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 5:02 PM ET
Guess you must've missed that the Rangers opening offer is 4.75
- rangerdanger94


"Per Aaron Ward, the club offered $3.2 million, but the player is asking $4.75 million."

Regardless, I'm saying my opinion... that's all
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
"Per Aaron Ward, the club offered $3.2 million, but the player is asking $4.75 million."
- MiloslavHorava


He's talking about Brooks article. Hopefully Brooks keeps up his record of being wrong 95% of the time
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 20 @ 5:06 PM ET
"Per Aaron Ward, the club offered $3.2 million, but the player is asking $4.75 million."

Regardless, I'm saying my opinion... that's all

- MiloslavHorava

Per Larry Brooks' column in the NY Post today:
"The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per."
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 5:07 PM ET
He's talking about Brooks article. Hopefully Brooks keeps up his record of being wrong 95% of the time
- mdw7413


Gotcha, hey I've watched Kreider, we all have. I'm afraid of paying him that money and getting the same thing over and over. He didnt deserve to be played ahead of Miller for long stretches of this year, if he was on the third line where he deserved to be for a good point of the time and Miller was on the 2nd, his numbers would be even lower. Lets face it, he was a 15G scorer until the last 2 weeks of the season.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:08 PM ET
He's talking about Brooks article. Hopefully Brooks keeps up his record of being wrong 95% of the time
- mdw7413


Do we think Kreider is totally safe on the trade front?

Let's me raise something potentially here.

The Rangers want Shattenkirk.

The Blues bargain power is limited because he is year away from unrestricted free agency.

A deal for Shattenkirk by a team with whom he is an unlikely to sign probably doesn't bring back a ransom for the Blues.

While I don't love the Rangers trading assets for guys that may become unrestricted in year, Shattenkirk obviously wants to be here.

So, my question is this, given the limitation that Shattenkirk's contract places in the Blues and the fact that he probably wants to be a Ranger, does a Kreider for Shattenkirk deal make sense?
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 5:09 PM ET
Per Larry Brooks' column in the NY Post today:
"The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per."

- rangerdanger94


Fair, didn't see that. still deathly afraid of the money he is going to get.
I'd LOVE to be 100% wrong on him and have him get the $5/M per and be a 30 Goal scorer. I think everyone here would.
I'd happily eat crow for 5 years!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 5:13 PM ET
Gotcha, hey I've watched Kreider, we all have. I'm afraid of paying him that money and getting the same thing over and over. He didnt deserve to be played ahead of Miller for long stretches of this year, if he was on the third line where he deserved to be for a good point of the time and Miller was on the 2nd, his numbers would be even lower. Lets face it, he was a 15G scorer until the last 2 weeks of the season.
- MiloslavHorava


I'm with you Milo. I just hate the money being offered.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:16 PM ET
I'm with you Milo. I just hate the money being offered.
- mdw7413


There is definitely risk involved with the money and term it will take to get him wrapped up. If the right deal is out there for him, I wouldn't be opposed to it, but that does further cut into the speed element of the team which I like so much, so it's a double-edged sword. Hopefully he can get better and learn to play a more complete game.
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