systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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hmm.. thats what my wife said? I'd rather have a good wine... - Delryk
Just messing with you. I've been slowly switching wine myself but there are times where beer is the only thing that will do. Like softball games, fishing etc |
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and some cap space - senstroll
1 less contract on the books also. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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In Tanner's recent blog has Gardiner has an elite number 1.
Comparing him to Keith.
How did we miss this? - Fakepartofme
THe same way we missed on Laine. By talking about only Matthews. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Just messing with you. I've been slowly switching wine myself but there are times where beer is the only thing that will do. Like softball games, fishing etc - systemtool
Yeah. Wine sits much better with me the next day (I don't get hangovers typically, but not having over 3L of fermented crap in my gut is always better!)... that said, a few of us headed to one of the local lakes here yesterday, and a cooler full of beer is always the go-to for that occurrence.... |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Yeah. Wine sits much better with me the next day (I don't get hangovers typically, but not having over 3L of fermented crap in my gut is always better!)... that said, a few of us headed to one of the local lakes here yesterday, and a cooler full of beer is always the go-to for that occurrence.... - lumlums
Amen brother. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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THe same way we missed on Laine. By talking about only Matthews. - systemtool
Dammit guys, we need to smarten up. |
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BetterCallSaul
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Location: Captain Morgan Rielly Joined: 05.07.2013
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THe same way we missed on Laine. By talking about only Matthews. - systemtool
Yo, the HERO charts show that Gardiner > Rielly.
All the proof is need. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Yo, the HERO charts show that Gardiner > Rielly.
All the proof is need. - BetterCallSaul
For some yes.
that's what people use to argue Weber is over the hill. |
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BestRapperAlive
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Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner Joined: 06.21.2012
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Yo, the HERO charts show that Gardiner > Rielly.
All the proof is need. - BetterCallSaul
The fact that the chart shows gardiner is better than keith is the best proof I've seen yet that the chart is worthless |
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PlatosRepucklic
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Location: #TradeMarner Joined: 11.07.2015
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In Tanner's recent blog has Gardiner has an elite number 1.
Comparing him to Keith.
How did we miss this? - Fakepartofme
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SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 07.25.2010
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if anyone continues to take subtle jabs at any blogger they will be banned from here on out
i'm tired of this BS and if you continue to do it i will ensure you will not be able to post at all for a long time. - Dozzer
Wield that mighty power! Warriorrrrrrssssssss |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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For some yes.
that's what people use to argue Weber is over the hill. - Fakepartofme
It's just a way of representing data for him over the years. Around 2012/13 there was a marked increase in the number of shots against him when at 5v5. This was also around the time that Suter stopped being his primary defensive partner. That said, his points totals show that he's still an offensive threat, particularly at 5v4. I don't think that there are many rational people however who think that Montreal are better off for this trade... |
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JSC
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Location: The Banana Throwing Capital of Canada, London, ON Joined: 02.29.2008
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Morning, folks!
What's all this about sticking cobs of corn up your hoop to search for Pokemon? - As_I_See_It
Amateurs. I was doing that before I even knew what Pokemon was! |
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Lucas Neilson
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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Been looking at some of those HERO charts. So far Gardiner is better defensively that Suter, Doughty, Keith, Weber, Hedman. - HealthyScratch6
the HERO charts are terrible.
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BKups
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Location: Toronto Joined: 01.26.2012
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Been looking at some of those HERO charts. So far Gardiner is better defensively that Suter, Doughty, Keith, Weber, Hedman. - HealthyScratch6
So we could basically trade him for any player in the league based on the value of defensemen these days - the possibilities are endless.
In all fairness he did have a much better season but he isn't a 1-2 |
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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the HERO charts are terrible. - Lucas.Neilson
In what way? It's data, pure and simple. It takes data points for a player and uses it to rank them relative to all other players in the same metric with a normalization for time. Now obviously each point is limited to just the particular thing that it measures, but it seems that folks forget that the data itself is completely inanimate - If you want to blame individual people for misusing them or being over-zealous with them that's one thing but that's on them. |
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So we could basically trade him for any player in the league based on the value of defensemen these days - the possibilities are endless.
In all fairness he did have a much better season but he isn't a 1-2 - BKups
I actually like gardiner last yea and think he could turn into a decent number 3 but to say he's one of the best defensive defenseman in the game is laughable. |
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Nastradamus
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Location: Word., ON Joined: 03.09.2009
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Been looking at some of those HERO charts. So far Gardiner is better defensively that Suter, Doughty, Keith, Weber, Hedman. - HealthyScratch6
so now all we need to do is convince bergevin that Gardiner is an EVEN BETTER fit than Weber on the basis of character
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TheMussel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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In what way? It's data, pure an simple. It takes data points for a player and uses it to rank them relative to all other players in the same metric with a normalization for time. Now obviously each point is limited to just the particular thing that it measures, but it seems that folks forget that the data itself is completely inanimate - If you want to blame individual people for misusing them or being over-zealous with them that's one thing but that's on them. - lumlums
Yeah, arbitrary visualizations really are no substitute for regression analysis or machine learning. Where's all the hockey data scientists at? |
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BestRapperAlive
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Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner Joined: 06.21.2012
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Yeah, arbitrary visualizations really are no substitute for regression analysis or machine learning. Where's all the hockey data scientists at? - TheMussel
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