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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
Terrific.

So lets spend just to spend then.

There isn't a UFA out there right now worth a protect spot IMO.

They could pull an Islanders move like they did with Boychuk and Leddy. Let teams blow their wads and poach good players off of them on the cheap.

- dadeadhead

Agreed. Vesey needs to be #1 priority, followed by a depth D man and depth forward

Helm, Stahlberg, Connolly a few with speed for bottom 6.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
Stempniak at 1 year 2 mil.

IMO you are going to see vets like him take 1 yr deals for more cash.

Teams will offer this to make the expansion draft protect list easy as a player must have term left.

- dadeadhead



Good point!

I would take Stempniak over McGinn for a year anyway
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
Ya only for a certain amount of time. Then they make a trade.
- Carubba-Kaleta



They have to be cap compliant by the start of the season.

You will see these teams do this mid August.

July 1st- 10th UFA frenzy

11th-31st a huge lull

Aug 1st-15th unplug cause ain't nothing happening

16th-Labor Day Trades PTO's offered

This is the summer every year.
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
Nope.

Their big 3 are

Stamkos(signed)
Kucherov
Hedman

You will see other parts moved (like Chicago) for picks and plug in players. Also you will start to see those aging yet still good UFA vets sign on the cheap to go there.

- dadeadhead


So have they cooled off on guys like Palat and Tyler Johnson? I know they were both highly regarded at one point but if they started to view those players as replaceable then I see what you're saying.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:08 AM ET
Agreed. Vesey needs to be #1 priority, followed by a depth D man and depth forward

Helm, Stahlberg, Connolly a few with speed for bottom 6.

- sbroads24



Joe Coulborne too
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
If Vesey signs we have options.

I say try Franson for Nash. They save 4 mil this year, all 7.8 year after. They also need a RD.

Then dangle Ennis or Girgensons + for a younger D man that maybe has some upside
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
So have they cooled off on guys like Palat and Tyler Johnson? I know they were both highly regarded at one point but if they started to view those players as replaceable then I see what you're saying.
- Phatjohnsn



Saad was highly regarded too.

3 top paid guys

3-4 guys in that 5-5.9 range

3-4 guys on 4-4.9 contracts but play above pay

The rest vet min, ELC, minimal guys in that 2-3 range.
Paulfromny
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jun 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
I would rather sign Stempniak to a 2 year deal than sign McGinn to a 4 year deal
- Stripes77


That would be a good move also. I'd favor a Mcginn move if under 4.5 and 5 years.
Stempniak for 2 would good, just not as good to me.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:13 AM ET
If Vesey signs we have options.

I say try Franson for Nash. They save 4 mil this year, all 7.8 year after. They also need a RD.

Then dangle Ennis or Girgensons + for a younger D man that maybe has some upside

- sbroads24



Franson and a third for Nash?

I am all for that

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:13 AM ET
Franson and a third for Nash?

I am all for that

- Stripes77



I doubt NY is.

They want the cap space.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
Nope.

Their big 3 are

Stamkos(signed)
Kucherov
Hedman

You will see other parts moved (like Chicago) for picks and plug in players. Also you will start to see those aging yet still good UFA vets sign on the cheap to go there.

- dadeadhead


How about we take Bishop and Carle off their hands. They also include Kucherov and Nesterov to Buffalo.

We give them back Ennis a 2nd and 3rd rounder possibly a Baptiste.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
I doubt NY is.

They want the cap space.

- dadeadhead



Eat half of Franson's salary
Paulfromny
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jun 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
If Vesey signs we have options.

I say try Franson for Nash. They save 4 mil this year, all 7.8 year after. They also need a RD.

Then dangle Ennis or Girgensons + for a younger D man that maybe has some upside

- sbroads24


I want one more year of both before getting so loose with them. Can't help feeling their value has to be more, possibly much more. Maybe it's just the homer in me.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:15 AM ET
How about we take Bishop and Carle off their hands. They also include Kucherov and Nesterov to Buffalo.

We give them back Ennis a 2nd and 3rd rounder possibly a Baptiste.

- mattsox



Not a chance.

If they move Bishop they don't have to worry about losing Kucherov
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:17 AM ET
Eat half of Franson's salary
- Stripes77



IMO they need to wait it out.

Let teams blow their wads and poach the roster.

They can wait on Nash IMO as I feel they'll be able to get him at a cheaper rate as the summer goes on.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:17 AM ET
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buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:18 AM ET
How about we take Bishop and Carle off their hands. They also include Kucherov and Nesterov to Buffalo.

We give them back Ennis a 2nd and 3rd rounder possibly a Baptiste.

- mattsox


Ennis has no value at the present time.
jzabawaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: $12 million is too much, NY
Joined: 06.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:19 AM ET
It seems like the Stamkos deal and Kucherov needing a contract is going to make someone in Tampa available. Drouin would be good and fits the mold. How bout Tyler Johnson?
- Hatboro_Swords

Someone has to go..They have a lot of contracts that need to be renewed. Other than Bishop, I would take any of their guys.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 11:19 AM ET
New blog
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:19 AM ET
Not a chance.

If they move Bishop they don't have to worry about losing Kucherov

- Stripes77



I don't think they're worrying either way.

My guess 8 yrs 7-7.5, Hedman comes in at the same.

They move 2 of Filppula, Carle, or Harrison.
jzabawaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: $12 million is too much, NY
Joined: 06.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:20 AM ET
How about we take Bishop and Carle off their hands. They also include Kucherov and Nesterov to Buffalo.

We give them back Ennis a 2nd and 3rd rounder possibly a Baptiste.

- mattsox

I want no part of a $6 MIL goalie again
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 30 @ 11:21 AM ET
Saad was highly regarded too.

3 top paid guys

3-4 guys in that 5-5.9 range

3-4 guys on 4-4.9 contracts but play above pay

The rest vet min, ELC, minimal guys in that 2-3 range.

- dadeadhead


I'm not disagreeing with you, I see what you're saying.

I know Palat and Tyler cooled off this past year compared to the previous but at the end of the 2014-2015 some people thought both of those guys would be $6mil+ guys and there was no way they'd be able to make Palat, Tyler, Stamkos, and Kuch work.

All of those guys produced at a higher rate than Saad, even if Saad was highly regarded. If those guys rebound a bit, they're probably losing one of those point producers for little to nothing.
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