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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:23 AM ET
Not quite sure I understand what he has to do with Helm.

Helm has speed and can play all aspects, PP, PK.

- ImThatGuy


You don't bring in Helm without removing current players. Just doesn't make sense.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:24 AM ET
I'd like both honestly.

Again the 3rd line would need the fat trimmed.

Helm/28-Larsson/B. Connolly would be a fun line.

- dadeadhead


Connolly's a bum. Why do we want someone's - two other teams' - garbage?
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:24 AM ET
Fixed that for you.
- JVince11




Vanek for plan Never
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:25 AM ET
That misplaces:
Girgensons
Foligno
Gionta


A lot of trimming there.

- ImThatGuy



Helm/Girgs/Connolly

or

Helm/Larsson/Connolly

Foligno, Gionta, Moulson, and one of Girgs/Larsson can go. The 1st 3 I have no use for anymore.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 30 @ 10:35 AM ET
Helm/Girgs/Connolly

or

Helm/Larsson/Connolly

Foligno, Gionta, Moulson, and one of Girgs/Larsson can go. The 1st 3 I have no use for anymore.

- dadeadhead

Ya lets get a couple third and fourth liners for our third and fourth liners. Cause our top six is all set with ennis and girgensons on the wing.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:37 AM ET
Ya lets get a couple third and fourth liners for our third and fourth liners. Cause our top six is all set with ennis and girgensons on the wing.
- Carubba-Kaleta



Ya lets over pay some guys for far too long to be top 6 guys that won't be top 6 guys in 2yrs and oh yeah fvck expansion and their protect list.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:38 AM ET
Ya lets over pay some guys for far too long to be top 6 guys that won't be top 6 guys in 2yrs and oh yeah fvck expansion and their protect list.
- dadeadhead


We have room to sign an actual free agent and protect him.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:40 AM ET
We have room to sign an actual free agent and protect him.
- TheSabresTaco



Terrific.

So lets spend just to spend then.

There isn't a UFA out there right now worth a protect spot IMO.

They could pull an Islanders move like they did with Boychuk and Leddy. Let teams blow their wads and poach good players off of them on the cheap.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:41 AM ET
Terrific.

So lets spend just to spend then.

There isn't a UFA out there right now worth a protect spot IMO.

- dadeadhead


Trade for a D and sign Vesey! Vesey is huge!!!!!!!
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
Trade for a D and sign Vesey! Vesey is huge!!!!!!!
- Cup Crazy '07



Do I think they have a shot at Vesey? Yes but IMO he's going to Aug 15th.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:43 AM ET
Trade for a D and sign Vesey! Vesey is huge!!!!!!!
- Cup Crazy '07

What if Vesey doesn't want too ?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:43 AM ET
Terrific.

So lets spend just to spend then.

There isn't a UFA out there right now worth a protect spot IMO.

They could pull an Islanders move like they did with Boychuk and Leddy. Let teams blow their wads and poach good players off of them on the cheap.

- dadeadhead



This, the only free agent worth giving one of those spots too is already our property for the time being. They should use UFA for the bottom 6 or depth d and go big in the trade market.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
Terrific.

So lets spend just to spend then.

There isn't a UFA out there right now worth a protect spot IMO.

They could pull an Islanders move like they did with Boychuk and Leddy. Let teams blow their wads and poach good players off of them on the cheap.

- dadeadhead


Never said blow money to blow money. I said, or meant rather, that we can protect another player with ease. Whether that be a trade or FA
jzabawaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: $12 million is too much, NY
Joined: 06.24.2008

Jun 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
I'd make a call to see if Drouin is available. I know he had a big playoff, but TB's cap situation is going to get messy. I'd offer a 1st + a player. What that player is I have no guess what TB would want in return. Prospect or current player?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
This, the only free agent worth giving one of those spots too is already our property for the time being. They should use UFA for the bottom 6 or depth d and go big in the trade market.
- Sabresfan-365



It's money burning a hole in your pocket time of year.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
Do I think they have a shot at Vesey? Yes but IMO he's going to Aug 15th.
- dadeadhead


I'm of the firm belief that if he goes beyond this weekend, he's not coming here.
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 30 @ 10:48 AM ET
What does it take to trade TB for rights to Kucherov or one of their other RFAs? Someone isn't getting signed so they might as well get a return for it. Is next year's first too much for Kucherov?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Never said blow money to blow money. I said, or meant rather, that we can protect another player with ease. Whether that be a trade or FA
- TheSabresTaco



Every and all options to improve this team should be explored.

If that is to reshape the bottom 6 to make them a playoff quality bottom 6, then so be it.

I don't want them to spend money just to grab headlines. Also no need to help teams like the Rags out bu taking Nash off their hands. Let teams like that sweat it out and get them on the cheap in August.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Ya lets over pay some guys for far too long to be top 6 guys that won't be top 6 guys in 2yrs and oh yeah fvck expansion and their protect list.
- dadeadhead

I didn't say anything about over paying for a free agent. I would rather make a trade with one of the teams in cap hell. For example the Chicago Carolina trade.
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

Jun 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
I'd make a call to see if Drouin is available. I know he had a big playoff, but TB's cap situation is going to get messy. I'd offer a 1st + a player. What that player is I have no guess what TB would want in return. Prospect or current player?
- jzabawaj


I would love it, but I think he's even more valuable to TB because he's so cheap right now.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Okposo 7 years 6+ million?
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
What does it take to trade TB for rights to Kucherov or one of their other RFAs? Someone isn't getting signed so they might as well get a return for it. Is next year's first too much for Kucherov?
- Phatjohnsn


I'd do two firsts...
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:50 AM ET
I'm of the firm belief that if he goes beyond this weekend, he's not coming here.
- Cup Crazy '07


I am also kind of in this company as well.

however... Maybe the Vesey's take a yearly trip to somewhere for 4th of July every year and they will just get the paperwork signed when they get back.

I don't know.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:51 AM ET
Terrific.

So lets spend just to spend then.

There isn't a UFA out there right now worth a protect spot IMO.

They could pull an Islanders move like they did with Boychuk and Leddy. Let teams blow their wads and poach good players off of them on the cheap.

- dadeadhead


I never thought about it that way. Interesting.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:51 AM ET
I am also kind of in this company as well.

however... Maybe the Vesey's take a yearly trip to somewhere for 4th of July every year and they will just get the paperwork signed when they get back.

I don't know.

- JVince11


To me, he's had time to see the city, he knows the team, he'll get the top salary he can with us, so there's no reason not to sign unless he wants to go somewhere else...
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