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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:22 AM ET
I understand the PK Weber trade. I think Bergevin's a tool, but I get it.

The other one... Christ..

- TheSabresTaco


Nashville is in for a big hurt in a few years:

http://www.stanleycupofch...ators--Flyers-Offer-Sheet
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:23 AM ET
Nashville is in for a big hurt in a few years:

http://www.stanleycupofch...ators--Flyers-Offer-Sheet

- ImThatGuy



I don't see Weber retiring early... demand a trade maybe
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:25 AM ET
So what crazy poop happens today ?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
i don't necessarily blame her since she didn't really grow up around hockey.. When they were good she would watch the games with me.. now when i put the games on she goes to a different room and does something else.
- IndianaSabresFan

Shut up. I nailed your wife the other day!!
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:27 AM ET
So what crazy poop happens today ?
- cabin



McDavid demandes a trade, Crosby retires, and Carey Price switches to playing wing.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:28 AM ET
Nashville is in for a big hurt in a few years:

http://www.stanleycupofch...ators--Flyers-Offer-Sheet

- ImThatGuy


If this were to happen, is the cap hit moveable, like Datsyuk, Pronger, and Savard? If history tells us anything, there's always a team looking to get to the cap floor and willing to take it on.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:29 AM ET
So what crazy poop happens today ?
- cabin

apparently i will be making an apple pie later today
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:29 AM ET
I don't see Weber retiring early... demand a trade maybe
- Havic3814


I absolutely can. With his style he just may not have it at 35-36 years old. He'll be making squat at the end of his deal.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:30 AM ET
If this were to happen, is the cap hit moveable, like Datsyuk, Pronger, and Savard? If history tells us anything, there's always a team looking to get to the cap floor and willing to take it on.
- buffalofan19


I don't believe it is since Nasvhille no longer has Shea Weber and you cant trade a cap Recapture, I don't think.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
I absolutely can. With his style he just may not have it at 35-36 years old. He'll be making squat at the end of his deal.
- ImThatGuy

i can't see him playing to age 40
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:32 AM ET
I absolutely can. With his style he just may not have it at 35-36 years old. He'll be making squat at the end of his deal.
- ImThatGuy


It's a crappy situation for Nashville, but what could they do? The only thing that would have prevented that from happening would have been to sign him prior to July 1st so he couldn't get an offer sheet, and that's not always something a player will do.

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:32 AM ET
I can pick olli up in 2 hours
- homiedclown

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:33 AM ET
Started back reading the comments from around 4pm yesterday. Of course Stamkos and the trades were the big news, but how about Seth Jones signing for 6 years $32.4m? I think that is a great deal and we should offer Risto the same exact deal. Does anyone think it should be more/less? I think that really set the bar.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:33 AM ET
apparently i will be making an apple pie later today
- IndianaSabresFan


That's crazy .
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:33 AM ET
If this were to happen, is the cap hit moveable, like Datsyuk, Pronger, and Savard? If history tells us anything, there's always a team looking to get to the cap floor and willing to take it on.
- buffalofan19


You could be right, but I'm not sure how it works with the recapture penalty. None of those guys were designated to have that type of contract (at the time). It's a newer concept. And Datsyuk isn't retired, he's just playing in the KHL now.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:33 AM ET
Started back reading the comments from around 4pm yesterday. Of course Stamkos and the trades were the big news, but how about Seth Jones signing for 6 years $32.4m? I think that is a great deal and we should offer Risto the same exact deal. Does anyone think it should be more/less? I think that really set the bar.
- adambuffalo



I'm not so sure they have to yet.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:34 AM ET
I absolutely can. With his style he just may not have it at 35-36 years old. He'll be making squat at the end of his deal.
- ImThatGuy



I just saw how long his contract was until... i retract my previous uninformed statement.

But just that one.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:35 AM ET
You could be right, but I'm not sure how it works with the recapture penalty. None of those guys were designated to have that type of contract (at the time). It's a newer concept. And Datsyuk isn't retired, he's just playing in the KHL now.
- HonkFortheGoose



I have no idea what the answer to that question is, which is why I asked it. It wouldn't surprise me either way.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 30 @ 8:36 AM ET
i can't see him playing to age 40
- IndianaSabresFan


Not to mention the last 4 years of his deal only pays him $6MM dollars.
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
I absolutely can. With his style he just may not have it at 35-36 years old. He'll be making squat at the end of his deal.
- ImThatGuy



Right, but all he has to do is "not retire". If he doesn't "have it", I would imagine he would force the Canadiens to buy him out. It's only if he voluntarily leaves that it becomes an issue.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
apparently the Oilers wanted Risto for Hall, but settled for Adam Larsson?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 30 @ 8:41 AM ET
apparently the Oilers wanted Risto for Hall, but settled for Adam Larsson?
- doppelthat



Sounds to me that Chiarelli was dead set on trading Hall to the team that would give him its best defenseman.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 30 @ 8:45 AM ET
apparently the Oilers wanted Risto for Hall, but settled for Adam Larsson?
- doppelthat

Hall is a great player in all but i don't make that trade. if it were any other dman, sure
SABRES 89
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Jun 30 @ 8:45 AM ET
apparently the Oilers wanted Risto for Hall, but settled for Adam Larsson?
- doppelthat

I said that awhile back, that wasn't going to happen.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:46 AM ET
Not to mention the last 4 years of his deal only pays him $6MM dollars.
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- ImThatGuy

not much incentive for him to keep playing if he is physically breaking down
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