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feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:11 PM ET
No yesterday, no today, no tomorrow.
- Frizzlefry


poor Vanek lol
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 29 @ 7:11 PM ET
Why the Nash hate?
- mhp


He's old (relatively speaking), had a bad year and has a massive salary. Pass.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:11 PM ET
1.) Extend Risto
2.) Sigh Jimmy Vesey
3.) Sign Boedker, maybe McGinn?
4.) Trade 28 ++ for Fowler
5.) Let the team grow.

- 50GinosIn07



Honestly Id be more than thrilled if they did just 1 and 2, especially if risto's is team friendly.

(frank) boedker besides speed he's beyond overrated and I want no part of mcginn either. Gotta find bargains for the bottom 6.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:13 PM ET
Filppula is a bad contract they have.

Callahan was traded for.

Their defense with Garrison and Carle is bought.

- MillerTime3011



Stralman was a UFA that I forgot. But that was also a good, cheap deal.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 29 @ 7:14 PM ET
Sign Vesey and a mid level like Boadker or McGinnand go after a D like Shattenkirk.
- soljor09


Yes. Solid logic
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:15 PM ET
I say no to Nash. I think he is a Richard. He was too good to come to buffalo 4 years ago. F him. We're too good for him now. Stick with the youth. Hoff and Vesey would be great. Hoff is gonna cost a player, Okposo will only cost money, which Sabres should have plenty of without Stammer. I'm good with McGinn too.

Am I in the minority that would rather see Reinhart play with ROR than Eichel? Not saying Eich doesn't have a good work ethic, but Reinhart and ROR are cut from the same mold. ROR/Reinhart/McGinn had great chemistry.

- Hatboro_Swords

I really hope this kind of inferiority complex doesn't exist in the Sabres front office, otherwise this team is in trouble. Nash at two more years would help this team provided the cost isn't too high to land him. Okposo is a mistake. He is the kind of guy you add around the trade deadline when your team is ready to be a contender. Committing to him for more than 3 years makes no sense at this stage. The only players you should be committing for that term are elite ones. Okposo isn't that.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:16 PM ET
I see that Homer said he has heard Vesey is going to August 15th. I've heard others say the deal is all but done. I hate this one - so hard to know. If he goes to August, this is going to be a long summer...
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
I really hope this kind of inferiority complex doesn't exist in the Sabres front office, otherwise this team is in trouble. Nash at two more years would help this team provided the cost isn't too high to land him. Okposo is a mistake. He is the kind of guy you add around the trade deadline when your team is ready to be a contender. Committing to him for more than 3 years makes no sense at this stage. The only players you should be committing for that term are elite ones. Okposo isn't that.
- buffalofan19



I seriously doubt it does, especially with Murray and a player he really likes.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
I see that Homer said he has heard Vesey is going to August 15th. I've heard others say the deal is all but done. I hate this one - so hard to know. If he goes to August, this is going to be a long summer...
- Cup Crazy '07



I wonder how long they wait. If you let it drag out and don't go after a replacement you may wind up missing out by the time august comes around.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
Sign Vesey and a mid level like Boadker or McGinnand go after a D like Shattenkirk.
- soljor09

I really hope they stay away from both those UFAs
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
I see that Homer said he has heard Vesey is going to August 15th. I've heard others say the deal is all but done. I hate this one - so hard to know. If he goes to August, this is going to be a long summer...
- Cup Crazy '07

I think the Sabres knew he was going to go to August 15th even before they traded for his rights. The idea was to sell him on the team exclusively and make themselves the standard he measures all of his options by.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
I wonder how long they wait. If you let it drag out and don't go after a replacement you may wind up missing out by the time august comes around.
- Sabresfan-365


That's my concern. I want him, but he does seem like a whiny little kid - obviously I don't care if we sign him...haha!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:20 PM ET

Egg, jalapeño, chorizo, cheese, and avocado.

- nfph


I'll take 4.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:21 PM ET
I am thinking about Tampa Bay. It seems to me that they waited on their own homegrown talent to progress, and then were in the playoffs one year, and went deep in the two season after that.

Did Tampa ever sign a UFA to a large contract? Boyle is the only one I can think of, but that was cheap. A good model to follow, imo.

- rmiethaner

Carle
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 29 @ 7:23 PM ET
The delusions in the Oilers thread are amazing. They're starting to say they're actually ok with the trade.

The Sabres overpaid in both the ROR and Kane deals, but the key things are that a) they didn't overpay nearly as much as the Oilers did, and b) They got the best player in the deal both times.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:24 PM ET
no one knew poop about Stamkos and no one knows poop about Vesey. Wait and see.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:26 PM ET
There is only 1 Stamkos
There are only a few Rick Nash's
There are dozens of Girgensons
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:26 PM ET
Carle
- sbroads24



The best thread on this site.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:27 PM ET
The delusions in the Oilers thread are amazing. They're starting to say they're actually ok with the trade.

The Sabres overpaid in both the ROR and Kane deals, but the key things are that a) they didn't overpay nearly as much as the Oilers did, and b) They got the best player in the deal both times.

- Wetbandit1



They move fast through the steps
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:29 PM ET
1.) Sign Vesey
2.) Sign Stempniak
3.) Send Ennis plus a third Fowler
4.) Send Girgensons and Baptiste for Nash
5.) Send Franson to Boston for a 3rd
6.) Re-sign Johnson

Kane ROR Nash
Vesey Eichel Reinhart
Foligno Larsson Stempniak
Moulson Schaller Gionta
Delo

Fowler Risto
Kulikov Bogo
McCabe Nelson
Gorges

Lehner
Johnson

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:30 PM ET
1.) Sign Vesey
2.) Sign Stempniak
3.) Send Ennis plus a third Fowler
4.) Send Girgensons and Baptiste for Nash
5.) Send Franson to Boston for a 3rd
6.) Re-sign Johnson

Kane ROR Nash
Vesey Eichel Reinhart
Foligno Larsson Stempniak
Moulson Schaller Gionta
Delo

Fowler Risto
Kulikov Bogo
McCabe Nelson
Gorges

Lehner
Johnson

- Stripes77


I'm not sure if you saw the Hall trade, but Ennis and a 3rd gets you kicked in the Richard for asking.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:30 PM ET
Garth is high if he thinks the Sabres are signing Backus, they aren't. He's another guy that want's 5.5. to 6 a year, I thought I read he turned down an offer from the Blues already that a little over 5 a year.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm not sure if you saw the Hall trade, but Ennis and a 3rd gets you kicked in the Richard for asking.
- TheSabresTaco


One GM going nuts doesn't set the market. I would do Ennis and a second though.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
Garth is high if he thinks the Sabres are signing Backus, they aren't. He's another guy that want's 5.5. to 6 a year, I thought I read he turned down an offer from the Blues already that a little over 5 a year.
- SABRES 89


But they're willing to give that or more to okposo which honestly is equally as ridiculous.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:32 PM ET
But they're willing to give that or more to okposo which honestly is equally as ridiculous.
- Sabresfan-365

Okposo is younger and we have Girgensons if he's not moved, why do we need Backus ? waste of money. There is no reason to start throwing money around just because Stamkos has signed. But he does like Okposo.
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