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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:25 PM ET
and that other poster wants to give up girgs and a prospect
- sabresfan69


Did you see what Girgensons did last year? Or does that not matter to you but it matters what Nash did...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
why would two years ago matter when the guy is 32 not 25.
- sabresfan69

Because he's 32 not 55 years old. Corey Perry isn't just going to keel over and die because he's over 30 now.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
That doesn't matter apparently
- sbroads24


Moulson has 5 20+ goal seasons. 3 of them were 30+
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
I agree. He should of brought in hall,sign vesey. What a great young top 6. Murray is a mess
- Buffalo39


You make it sound like Chiarelli called Murray, offered him Hall, and Murray said nah, not interested. There are a bunch of teams that probably would've offered way more for Hall. For whatever reason Chiarelli made this trade.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
Homer,the same reason murray does anything. Regier to murray,we definetly didnt and dont now ,have the smartest man in the room. From many ex players,regier built his team in his image,PASSIVE. Murray i dont know what he is doing
- Buffalo39


If you can't see the plan gmtm has in place, you're blind
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
You make it sound like Chiarelli called Murray, offered him Hall, and Murray said nah, not interested. There are a bunch of teams that probably would've offered way more for Hall. For whatever reason Chiarelli made this trade.
- Frizzlefry



Right my guess is the conversation started and ended when Risto was named
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
Not 5 years ago 2 years ago. Like the same 2 years since Girgensons was a good player
- sbroads24


Ok Girgensons is 22 and has much more potential. Nash is 32 and is declining.

Nash makes 7.9 million and your gifting NYR getting out of that contract.

You do know how getting older works?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
If you can't see the plan gmtm has in place, you're blind
- turbo044

I can.

Trade for all the players I liked when I was in Ottawa, and see what happens
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
You are hearing this here. I just received a text. Rick Nash is the sabres target in a trade. Watch
- Buffalo39



You and your texts
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
If you can't see the plan gmtm has in place, you're blind
- turbo044

Can you explain it to us here?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:28 PM ET
Ok Girgensons is 22 and has much more potential. Nash is 32 and is declining.

Nash makes 7.9 million and your gifting NYR getting out of that contract.

You do know how getting older works?

- sabresfan69



Show me where Girgensons has any potential to be half as good as Nash?

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:28 PM ET
Ok Girgensons is 22 and has much more potential. Nash is 32 and is declining.

Nash makes 7.9 million and your gifting NYR getting out of that contract.

You do know how getting older works?

- sabresfan69

I do know, next year I'll be 30, so I'm guessing I'll be losing all mobility in my left leg and will need diapers
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:28 PM ET
Because he's 32 not 55 years old. Corey Perry isn't just going to keel over and die because he's over 30 now.
- sbroads24

yawn
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
If the Sabres even sniff at Rick Nash.. They better be paying most of that salary.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
Show me where Girgensons has any potential to be half as good as Nash?
- Stripes77


Where does Nash have the potential to meet stamkos contract by 3/4 of a million less per year.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
I do know, next year I'll be 30, so I'm guessing I'll be losing all mobility in my left leg and will need diapers
- sbroads24

Did you play professional sports at a high level with 200+ pound hockey players.

reading your post clearly you have no clue.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
Because he had over 40 goals in 14-15
- Carubba-Kaleta


That was before his back was jacked up. Backs don't get better, they only get worse.
ASU_Sabres14
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tempe, AZ
Joined: 05.04.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
Can you explain it to us here?
- sabresfan69

He basically wants to find every star from the world junior tournaments through the years. Reinhart, Risto, Jack, Mccabe, Nylander, Kane, Oreilly, Bogosian, Lehner, Vesey are all good examples. He's all about pedigree, he wants guys that were drafted in the top 5 and will be in the NHL for a long time.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:32 PM ET
My insider just sent me a text. He says forget the Nash talk, he's never waiving to come to buf. Boedker is the target and Vesey signs with BUF this weekend
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
Where does Nash have the potential to meet stamkos contract by 3/4 of a million less per year.
- seedy



Actually Nash average a little more that 3/4th of goals per game as Stamkos

Stamkos averages .54 goals per game

Nash average .42 goals per game

75% of .54 is .41 goals per game

Now that I re read your post my post is irrelevant...I feel shame


BUUUT in 2014-2015 Nash only had 3 less points than Stamkos and 1 less goal.

I am not expecting him to score 40 but I would take 30 for a guys whose contract isn't going to take him to 38 years old like it would if the Sabres signed Loui
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
My insider just sent me a text. He says forget the Nash talk, he's never waiving to come to buf. Boedker is the target and Vesey signs with BUF this weekend
- turbo044

Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:35 PM ET
My insider just sent me a text. He says forget the Nash talk, he's never waiving to come to buf. Boedker is the target and Vesey signs with BUF this weekend
- turbo044


IDK if you really have an insider or not, but I've been told by two separate sources that Vesey is waiting till August 15th and that wasn't just talk from his agent. Hope they are wrong.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:36 PM ET
Actually Nash average a little more that 3/4th of goals per game as Stamkos

Stamkos averages .54 goals per game

Nash average .42 goals per game

75% of .54 is .41 goals per game

Now that I re read your post my post is irrelevant...I feel shame

- Stripes77





you know what im saying though…he's expensive and i have no crystal ball, so I have no idea if he will ever reach 40 goals again and if i had to bet money (A lot of money) i would guess he won't.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 6:36 PM ET
My insider just sent me a text. He says forget the Nash talk, he's never waiving to come to buf. Boedker is the target and Vesey signs with BUF this weekend
- turbo044


Did your insider know about these 2 trades today??

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:37 PM ET


you know what im saying though…he's expensive and i have no crystal ball, so I have no idea if he will ever reach 40 goals again and if i had to bet money (A lot of money) i would guess he won't.

- seedy


Yeah I do.

But I also expect him to bounce back and be near 30.

I would rather pay him for 2 years to score 30 than pay Loui Ericcson for 7 years to score 30 for 2 years and then fall apart
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