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BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
I am starting to really question murrays soberness. All the red flags on evander kane. The contracts of moulson,gionta and gorges. You were not getting stamkos and you just let taylor hall get traded for adam larssons
- Buffalo39


I think one needs to focus on how stupid Edmonton is, why not Hamonic? The guys wanted out, pretty sure the Isles would have made that trade.

It appears they didn't make many phone calls when finally dealing Hall.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
Wow, all I did was drive home from work.
- SABRES 89

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:57 PM ET
Wow, all I did was drive home from work.
- SABRES 89



Welp there goes plan A and B...
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:57 PM ET
Bogosian and a scrub is better then larssons,someone wake tim murray up
- Buffalo39


Larsson is pretty good. Not a bum but nowhere near Hall. They got toasted.

Did the Canadian GMs think they had to pay more because of the exchange rate?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse

- Stripes77


Not even close. Hall for Larsson is way, way worse. Montreal is getting at least someone who's somewhat comparable to Subban. But Hall is a top LW in the league. Larsson might not even be the best defenseman on his team.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
Will someone please walk to bottoms up and drag tim murray out of there. Is he still partying with kane. How do you not get taylor hall. Adam larsson,really
- Buffalo39



I wouldn't be shocked if Chiarelli was fixated on Larsson for some odd reason.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
I bet Don Cherry loves the Subban for Weber trade for the Habs cause you know he's behind the times
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
Welp there goes plan A and B...
- Stripes77

Okposo................. god help us
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
I bet Don Cherry loves the Subban for Weber trade for the Habs cause you know he's behind the times
- Stripes77

Why was this trade even made ?
Punch70
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:59 PM ET
Okposo................. god help us
- SABRES 89

Detroit will be desperate to sign him
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
Well I guess we actually have to be patient with this rebuild. It's all good.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
I am starting to really question murrays soberness. All the red flags on evander kane. The contracts of moulson,gionta and gorges. You were not getting stamkos and you just let taylor hall get traded for adam larssons
- Buffalo39


-Evander Kane was a minor gamble. Getting potential high reward for a guy who wouldn't ruin "The Tank"
-Moulson was a P.R. move to prove that Buffalo can be a F.A. destination. Who knew that he would enjoy the cuisine so much???
-Gionta, and Gorges were to appease the fan base, and again not threaten,"The Tank".
-The whole Hall thing is a head scratcher. My only thought is that EDM wanted too much.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
Welp there goes plan A and B...
- Stripes77



I hung up a guitar on my wall and went to the bathroom.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
Well I guess we actually have to be patient with this rebuild. It's all good.
- Buffalo--Sabres



I agree, but I will melt down if Vesey doesn't sign.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
I wouldn't be shocked if Chiarelli was fixated on Larsson for some odd reason.
- buffalofan19


He was, just heard the audio of Chiarelli defending the trade.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
Okposo................. god help us
- SABRES 89


I don't even know how to feel right now by all of this.

I am sure Murray called about Hall, they probably said Risto or nothing.

I am okay with Stamkos staying in Tampa and not going to Toronto
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
If Weber retires in the final year Nashville is hit with a penalty of as much as 24.6 million.

https://onepuckshort.word...uld-cost-nashville-a-lot/

This is a bad bad trade for the cash strapped Preds IMO.

- dadeadhead


That's a lot to read...if Weber retires at 37 like the article says would there cap recapture hit be any different if he retired as a Pred than as a Hab?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
no he didn't. Florida has a lower state income tax and with 8 years it is the same as getting 12m in Buffalo. His net income would be the same.
- sabresfan69


And I believe you are also incorrect as the players pay a state tax for each individual game they play in another state, so while yes 42 home games in Tampa is better tax wise than 42 home games in Buffalo, the difference is not nearly as large as you are indicating.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
Travis Yost ‏@travisyost · 1m1 minute ago

I guess Carey Price is healthy but I do wonder if his body will break down at the 40-save mark, you know, right before second intermission.

This is funny
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
Why was this trade even made ?
- SABRES 89

I will tell you why this trade was made. I have said this a million times. General managers in pro sports are not smart people. They have no background to be gms. Alot are ex players,what background do they have? The smart ones,dominate there sports. Sports is all the buddy system. Darcy regier dient even finish 10th grade.nahere was he going after his 6 game nhl career endd. Saskatoon to shovel snow? He bcomes a scout and befiends people in islandrs organization. Tim murrays uncle is. In hockey,tim follows in his footsteps.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
I agree, but I will melt down if Vesey doesn't sign.
- bobmack13


Melt down if you need to but

How does any of this have an impact on Tim Murray?

Either there are inside deals with promises of futures, or what I believe, there is Dark Money going back to teams that NEED cash.

Always follow the Money
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
See above.

If Weber retires at any point they are screwed.......proper.

- dadeadhead

That was true yesterday though, so I discount it.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
Why all the Okposo talk? He's a RW, and we need LW don't we???
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:05 PM ET
Why all the Okposo talk? He's a RW, and we need LW don't we???
- bobmack13



We need a top line RW
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:06 PM ET
Wonder how McGinns UFA negotiations are going?

….may be that $4M offer doesnt sound so bad any more.
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