Wetbandit1
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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What do you think about the other option? Could the Sabres afford a max contract on their roster for two years? - Flynox
For 2 years? Absolutely. I think that's too big a gamble though. I'm not sure Stamkos goes for that either. He'll likely be guaranteed $70M+. Why would he settle for ~$29M? |
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Flynox
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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For 2 years? Absolutely. I think that's too big a gamble though. I'm not sure Stamkos goes for that either. He'll likely be guaranteed $70M+. Why would he settle for ~$29M? - Wetbandit1
14 Million for the first two years and 11 the next 5? |
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Flynox
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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Regardless of how u structure it,
The cap hit would be the same for every year
Example...
Year 1- $6mil salary, $3mil signing bonus
Year 2- $1mil salary
The cap hit for both years would be $5mil
It's total dollars divided by total years - jdfitz77
I get that, but it's just so the player gets 14 million dollars up front when he signs that contract. it has nothing to do with the cap since it would be the same either way you put it, they did it with O'Reilly |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Regardless of how u structure it,
The cap hit would be the same for every year
Example...
Year 1- $6mil salary, $3mil signing bonus
Year 2- $1mil salary
The cap hit for both years would be $5mil
It's total dollars divided by total years - jdfitz77
That would be an illegal contract. Can only be +/- 35% I believe? It's to prevent the Hossa, Pronger, Kovalchuk type deals |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Top 8 pick again next year .............. no thanks - fastek
Let's say we are able to sign Vesey & Stamkos
Think about how awesome our lineup could look next year...
Nylander-Stamkos-Ennis
Vesey-Eichel-Reinhart
Kane-O'Reilly-Bailey
Foligno-Larsson-Girgensons
That's a group of forwards that can contend for the Cup IMO |
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SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BC Joined: 03.02.2015
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If we miss on Vesey and Stamkos:
Kane RoR Ennis
Girgs Eichel Reinhart
Foligno Larsson Gionta
Moulson Cal Dlo/Fasching?
Want Okposo at 6 for 5yr or roll with this? - RhinoFan
With this line up, we are on the outside looking in again. I would rather do Lucic at $6 mill for 5-yrs vs Okposo.
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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That would be an illegal contract. Can only be +/- 35% I believe? It's to prevent the Hossa, Pronger, Kovalchuk type deals - Wetbandit1
I know
Was just trying to illustrate that the cap hit is the same no matter how u structure the deal
So it doesn't matter how Stamkos' potential contract would be structured
At least not as far as the Cap is concerned |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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14 Million for the first two years and 11 the next 5? - Flynox
Cash wise? Yeah. The cap hit stays the same regardless of his actual salary. So, while it would be an illegal contract if they tried to do it today Hossa only makes $1M salary in his last 4 seasons of his current contract, but his cap hit stays the same at $5.275M. They'd almost certainly front load it to give Stamkos the most cash like they did with ROR. I thought you meant only sign him to a 2 year deal. |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I know
Was just trying to illustrate that the cap hit is the same no matter how u structure the deal
So it doesn't matter how Stamkos' potential contract would be structured
At least not as far as the Cap is concerned - jdfitz77
I know, I was just being a Richard. |
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SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BC Joined: 03.02.2015
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Let's say we are able to sign Vesey & Stamkos
Think about how awesome our lineup could look next year...
Nylander-Stamkos-Ennis
Vesey-Eichel-Reinhart
Kane-O'Reilly-Bailey
Foligno-Larsson-Girgensons
That's a group of forwards that can contend for the Cup IMO - jdfitz77
Looks great on paper but I can't see them rushing Nylander onto the first line this season. Also, I am getting nervous about both Stamkos and Vesey signing with us. Grand slam if they both do but at this point, i would be happy with one of them signing.
Also, where's Moulson 6-pack?
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I get that, but it's just so the player gets 14 million dollars up front when he signs that contract. it has nothing to do with the cap since it would be the same either way you put it, they did it with O'Reilly - Flynox
Ok, my bad
I thought u were doing that trying to help the cap hit
Heck, Pegula has plenty of $$$
We can structure it however he wants if it'll get him to sign here |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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If that's the line up Murray should be fired - bluengold12
Yes he should be but we don't have the Boston GM or the Vancouver GM so we're good |
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Flynox
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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Ok, my bad
I thought u were doing that trying to help the cap hit
Heck, Pegula has plenty of $$$
We can structure it however he wants if it'll get him to sign here - jdfitz77
* Pegula lands his private jet in Tampa * "Here's 14 million dollars today if you write your name on this piece of paper" |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Looks great on paper but I can't see them rushing Nylander onto the first line this season. Also, I am getting nervous about both Stamkos and Vesey signing with us. Grand slam if they both do but at this point, i would be happy with one of them signing.
Also, where's Moulson 6-pack? - SabreWest
I said "next" year
I agree, Nylander should play in Rochester this year.
At least to start
I think we're stuck w Moulson for this year
But maybe we can get Vegas to take him to help get to their Cap floor
And we'll throw them some draft picks
They'll prob want all they can get to start stacking their system
Or maybe they'd even be interested in some mid level prospects like Carrier, Catenacci, Karabacek, etc |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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* Pegula lands his private jet in Tampa * "Here's 14 million dollars today if you write your name on this piece of paper" - Flynox
Heck, make it 25mil
Whatever it takes! |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I know, I was just being a Richard. - Wetbandit1
Well that's bad manners sir!
Haha |
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Flynox
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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Heck, make it 25mil
Whatever it takes! - jdfitz77
"We'll give you 8.5 a year and 25 mil in Cash" |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Heck, make it 25mil
Whatever it takes! - jdfitz77
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nikel
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: las vegas, NV Joined: 01.15.2013
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You've been reading too many Leafs blogs. How about this scenario:
Eichel progresses normally and get a 5-6M for 2 year contract at the end of his ELC. He isn't going to be a 10M player in 3 years, no one is. McDavid won't, Crosby wasn't. The cap will rise, we will figure things out, and we'll be fine with or without 91 on the books.
As far as Stamkos he's a former 60 goal scorer, yes, but more importantly still one of the top scorers in the league. I remember the same being said about OV when he started going down was that he was only a former goal scorer and then he showed them up. Good goal scorers go through ups and downs but even on Stammer's down years he's still scoring 30-40. - Zschalberg
How many significant injuries has Ovi had in the past 3 years?....if you want to use him as a comparison, have to look at more than just scoring |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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So what does this open window provide us with Stamkos are we allowed to talk contract ? |
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Flynox
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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So what does this open window provide us with Stamkos are we allowed to talk contract ? - GERBE!!!75PTS
Nope, Just the "Visions" of the team going forward or Where he fits in the team, Why this is the best opportunity for him to win a cup here, Stuff like that. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I'd kick the tires on Brett Connolly
low risk
high reward
I'd rather he play the 4th line than fasching or bailey |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Nope, Just the "Visions" of the team going forward or Where he fits in the team, Why this is the best opportunity for him to win a cup here, Stuff like that. - Flynox
Can they talk to him or no ? |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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if the sabres don't get stamkos, I think Nylander gets every chance to make the big club right away |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Can they talk to him or no ? - GERBE!!!75PTS
Yes, they can talk, just not about money. |
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