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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:29 AM ET



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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:29 AM ET
Where did the other blog go ?
- SABRES 89

THe blogs have not been making it to the archived blogs area the last week for some reason. Very annoying.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:30 AM ET
The Sabres will just trade kulikov at the deadlinr for a first first
That's why I think they did this or trade him in a package in the summer

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Maybe, or Risto turns into a true top pairing guy being paired with him and they re-sign him and protect 4 D. Which given the ages and contracts of the current roster as is, it not a big deal.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:30 AM ET
That team is lost in the middle and aren't close to a cup, can't see why people keep thinking he's going there.
- SABRES 89

to be honest, I can't believe the 'yotes gm went for that trade...the 26 yr. old analytics guru got totally schooled
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
People are freaking (Matthew Coller) THat Pysyk was traded because of advanced stats say he is really go.

My question to them - Was Pysyk really good at playing defense clearing the crease and getting into the dirty areas.
No?

Oh so he must have been a point producing, power play running specialist of a d-man then?

- ImThatGuy


Ya know I listened for a couple hours after the trade just to see the conclusions the guys would come to.

Coller is a math guy. He loves stats, analytics. At first, he was very against the trade. But after some thought and some arguing, he's come around to the fact that analytics don't tell the entire story, that Pysyk looks way better than Ristolainen in particular stat categories and that there were likely several motivations for the trade. Each team got a player they wanted for now and the future. We may not even protect him, but what we got out of it was Rasmus Asplund, who the Sabres were very high on.

Protect Pysyk, don't get Asplund.
Trade Pysyk, don't protect Kulikov (would he be the best unprotected guy we have?), get Asplund.

Deal with it.

Jesus, Pysyk was a (frank)ing pariah a week ago.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:31 AM ET



Hot Take

- DDM-Coga

perfect
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:31 AM ET



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- DDM-Coga


Shhhhhhhhhhh
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:32 AM ET
to be honest, I can't believe the 'yotes gm went for that trade...the 26 yr. old analytics guru got totally schooled
- Michael Pachla


Yeah that was his first welcome to the NHL moment.

However they Yotes are in a different place when it comes to salary cap and actual $
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:32 AM ET
to be honest, I can't believe the 'yotes gm went for that trade...the 26 yr. old analytics guru got totally schooled
- Michael Pachla

Whats worse is how stupid the Jackets are and the Oilers, even though they lose they still win.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:33 AM ET



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- DDM-Coga


Slava's handle should be "Lets-poke-the-(frank)ing-bear-today"
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
perfect
- Michael Pachla


Is a latvian considred a russian...just asking for a friend
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
The problem with analytics imo is that you can always find a stat or two to make a player appear better than they are if you look long enough.

Long story short... We drafted a player we liked.. and was pysyk going to jump bogo or risto? No. So we fulled a position of need and hopefully mark has success in florida
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
Yeah that was his first welcome to the NHL moment.

However they Yotes are in a different place when it comes to salary cap and actual $

- Stripes77


yeah, I hear ya, striper, but it wasn't even close to what he could've gotten
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 27 @ 11:34 AM ET



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- DDM-Coga

Maybe if he didn't STINK, he wouldn't be running his mouth. That was part of what got him traded in the first place. And people call Kane a problem.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
Maybe if he didn't STINK, he wouldn't running his mouth. That was part of what got him traded in the first place. And people call Kane a problem.
- SABRES 89


um? touchy much?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
Maybe, or Risto turns into a true top pairing guy being paired with him and they re-sign him and protect 4 D. Which given the ages and contracts of the current roster as is, it not a big deal.
- Stripes77


If they play him with risto I will be pissed ..

And I hope we don't protect him I want jake, and the number 1 LHD we will get
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
Ya know I listened for a couple hours after the trade just to see the conclusions the guys would come to.

Coller is a math guy. He loves stats, analytics. At first, he was very against the trade. But after some thought and some arguing, he's come around to the fact that analytics don't tell the entire story, that Pysyk looks way better than Ristolainen in particular stat categories and that there were likely several motivations for the trade. Each team got a player they wanted for now and the future. We may not even protect him, but what we got out of it was Rasmus Asplund, who the Sabres were very high on.

Protect Pysyk, don't get Asplund.
Trade Pysyk, don't protect Kulikov (would he be the best unprotected guy we have?), get Asplund.

Deal with it.

Jesus, Pysyk was a (frank)ing pariah a week ago.

- TheSabresTaco



The funny thing here is you can re-sign Kulikov, and protect 4 D and not lose anyone of real importance.

Protect: Risto, Bogo, McCabe Kulikov

Protect: ROR, Kane, Ennis, Girgensons or Foligno (That's without Stamkos or anyone else, you protect that player and will lose one of Ennis, Girgensons or Foligno, Delo, Gionta, Moulson)

Not a big deal
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
The funny thing here is you can re-sign Kulikov, and protect 4 D and not lose anyone of real importance.

Protect: Risto, Bogo, McCabe Kulikov

Protect: ROR, Kane, Ennis, Girgensons or Foligno (That's without Stamkos or anyone else, you protect that player and will lose one of Ennis, Girgensons or Foligno, Delo, Gionta, Moulson)

Not a big deal

- Stripes77


it really isn't. We're in great shape if we only sign one big FA.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
um? touchy much?
- DDM-Coga

Zadorov stinks, he's another Hollywood type that thinks he calls the shots, another reason why he's gone.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:36 AM ET



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- DDM-Coga

*eye roll*
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
If they play him with risto I will be pissed ..

And I hope we don't protect him I want jake, and the number 1 LHD we will get

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Look at the roster.

Look at 4 D to protect

then look at 4 forwards to protect.

Now try to find 7 forwards to protect and 3 D.

The Sabres (if they don't add 3 big names) are better off protecting 4D at this point
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
Maybe if he didn't STINK, he wouldn't be running his mouth. That was part of what got him traded in the first place. And people call Kane a problem.
- SABRES 89


Kane is how many years older?

Let's not act like we all did not think we had a stud

Nope not a Sabre bust bust bust loser
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
Zadorov stinks, he's another Hollywood type that thinks he calls the shots, another reason why he's gone.
- SABRES 89


Ok man, it wasnt a troll post, but if you want to lash out against Zads (who doesnt stink) thats ok man, you keep on doing you.

Just providing you boys with some sabres news since GMTM has this russian stigma attached to him
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
it really isn't. We're in great shape if we only sign one big FA.
- TheSabresTaco



The next expansion draft is where they need to be smart
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
Pysyk to me was a 4-6 d man...nothing better, nothing worse

Kulikov is a top 4 d man with potential to play top 2...plus more pts, experience and of course a blue line that is more nosty to play against which i would hope everyone supports....good move by Buffalo...you can knock tim for giving up maybe too much but he does get the right people needed to push this further and we have extra contracts to move so it makes sense that well land our guy cause we CAN AFFORD to overpay

ROR - over pament may have been compher
Kane - over payment with adding both of lemiuex/armia
Kulikov - Pysyk instead of just the picks...but we moved up and got a better prospect and better d man in the end...numbers arent everything...


The Lehner trade showed us he paid market value for a 23 yo starting goaltender...elliot fetched a high second


Moral of the story is he is the right man for the job
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