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stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
Think I would rather have Fehl than vanek. I trust fehr. He's also a pink guy. I think fehr can put up 15-20 goals if he's fully healthy.

I'd move fehr as the cap relief for yakupov

- sditulli



Finally someone I can agree with.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:01 PM ET
Think I would rather have Fehl than vanek. I trust fehr. He's also a pink guy. I think fehr can put up 15-20 goals if he's fully healthy.

I'd move fehr as the cap relief for yakupov

- sditulli



I hate that Fehr is basically the odd man out for Cap relief, because of how good the young players became. Fehr is going to look better the next two years than this one, but we are just that tight on the cap
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
I hate that Fehr is basically the odd man out for Cap relief, because of how good the young players became. Because Fehr is going to look better the next two years, but we are just that tight on the cap
- Guile



Everyone was rejoicing as he was one of JR's best FA signings and now all of sudden, he's a cap casualty.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
Brandon Pirri wasn't given a QO by the Ducks. He could be a cheap, depth forward with a bunch of upside, considering he scored 20+ goals 2 years ago
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:06 PM ET
Everyone was rejoicing as he was one of JR's best FA signings and now all of sudden, he's a cap casualty.
- DeflatedPucks



A lot of us did assume last season, would be his worst due to that surgery. But yeah... due to no Kunitz or Flower move, we're just that tight. Cole also could be the odd man out, 2.1 mil for a 3rd pairing Dman is a bit high... but 2 mil for a 4th line center/winger is worse.


edit: Technically Daley's cap hit also is at fault for us being this tight... but like HELL will I put any fault or blame on him. No Scuderi, anything negative he can do gets a free pass.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:08 PM ET
Brandon Pirri wasn't given a QO by the Ducks. He could be a cheap, depth forward with a bunch of upside, considering he scored 20+ goals 2 years ago
- cap1681

This would be a sound move I'd agree with.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:10 PM ET
Brandon Pirri wasn't given a QO by the Ducks. He could be a cheap, depth forward with a bunch of upside, considering he scored 20+ goals 2 years ago
- cap1681



Didn't they trade for him, from Florida?


I am very interested in him for the young raw talent... but I think a pretty clear RED FLAG has to be going on. He got dumped in that trade, just a 6th rounder, and now not kept at would should be a very cheap deal by a team that could make a solid run next year.


edit: He is listed as a center, but looking up info on him has him being used on the wing (not which one is specified in what i saw), so he seems like a versatile forward. Just wonder what has teams hating him.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
Brandon Pirri wasn't given a QO by the Ducks. He could be a cheap, depth forward with a bunch of upside, considering he scored 20+ goals 2 years ago
- cap1681


He is bit of a power play specialist. Left shot that plays the right wing if I am not mistaken. I liked him at the beginning of last year but as time went on I started to wonder what happened to him and then Florida gave up on him and basically traded him to Anaheim for a couple of pucks and warm beer. He would need to signed to a Professional tryout in my opinion.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:24 PM ET
Didn't they trade for him, from Florida?


I am very interested in him for the young raw talent... but I think a pretty clear RED FLAG has to be going on. He got dumped in that trade, just a 6th rounder, and now not kept at would should be a very cheap deal by a team that could make a solid run next year.


edit: He is listed as a center, but looking up info on him has him being used on the wing (not which one is specified in what i saw), so he seems like a versatile forward. Just wonder what has teams hating him.

- Guile

When you think Brandon Pirri, think Brandon Sutter. He has a really good shot and is blur, but when he's not scoring he's not doing much else for you. Not great on the boards and a sub par playmaker, and he's too streaky of a scorer to balance out the negatives. And unfortunately for Pirri, he doesn't have the Sutter name to fall back on and get overvalued.

But if we were to add Pirri, he'd instantly have one of the better shots out of our forward group. Probably only Malkin, Kessel, and Crosby have better shots out of our forwards. If we could get him for super cheap, it'd be a great way to hedge our bets on the left side. One of he, Wilson, or Sheary would have to pan out on our top lines, statistically speaking.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
When you think Brandon Pirri, think Brandon Sutter. He has a really good shot and is blur, but when he's not scoring he's not doing much else for you. Not great on the boards and a sub par playmaker, and he's too streaky of a scorer to balance out the negatives. And unfortunately for Pirri, he doesn't have the Sutter name to fall back on and get overvalued.

But if we were to add Pirri, he'd instantly have one of the better shots out of our forward group. Probably only Malkin, Kessel, and Crosby have better shots out of our forwards. If we could get him for super cheap, it'd be a great way to hedge our bets on the left side. One of he, Wilson, or Sheary would have to pan out on our top lines, statistically speaking.

- Victoro311



Okay, that explains teams getting disgruntled with him.

Nothing wrong with being a Sutter (unless you are massively overpayed, like Sutter now is)... except you are better suited to the wing and not as a center.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
I hate that Fehr is basically the odd man out for Cap relief, because of how good the young players became. Fehr is going to look better the next two years than this one, but we are just that tight on the cap
- Guile


There are a lot of people that don't have an appreciation for Fehr at all on this board. He will look better this year than last year. He won't be starting the season late due to surgery. Agree.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
There are a lot of people that don't have an appreciation for Fehr at all on this board. He will look better this year than last year. He won't be starting the season late due to surgery. Agree.
- Oneonta Penguin



Actually I think most here loved him during the Tampa series, and even more against SJ. Finally looked in better condition.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Think I would rather have Fehl than vanek. I trust fehr. He's also a pink guy. I think fehr can put up 15-20 goals if he's fully healthy.

I'd move fehr as the cap relief for yakupov

- sditulli


Whats with the love for Yak? He put up 8 goals last year. Thats swimming near BB level of awful as far as 1st round level production.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
A lot of us did assume last season, would be his worst due to that surgery. But yeah... due to no Kunitz or Flower move, we're just that tight. Cole also could be the odd man out, 2.1 mil for a 3rd pairing Dman is a bit high... but 2 mil for a 4th line center/winger is worse.


edit: Technically Daley's cap hit also is at fault for us being this tight... but like HELL will I put any fault or blame on him. No Scuderi, anything negative he can do gets a free pass.

- Guile


I wish Scuds would retire. He won't but it would be nice. Never ending pain with his contract.

Cole played very well for his cap hit. I wouldn't move him. I don't think you can find a reliable replacement for much cheaper.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Okay, that explains teams getting disgruntled with him.

Nothing wrong with being a Sutter (unless you are massively overpayed, like Sutter now is)... except you are better suited to the wing and not as a center.

- Guile

Pirri can play all three forward positions too, if my memory serves. That versatility is always useful. And Sully has a way of getting the best out of players, especially if they're fast. If Pirri is looking at a one year, 1 mil prove it deal, just show me where to sign.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:28 PM ET
I wish Scuds would retire. He won't but it would be nice. Never ending pain with his contract.

Cole played very well for his cap hit. I wouldn't move him. I don't think you can find a reliable replacement for much cheaper.

- madmike71



I honestly thought Scuds would retire... I was heavily under the impression that was implied with his Chi-LA trade. I think one of the two bloggers suggested that, and it made sense.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:28 PM ET
Pirri can play all three forward positions too, if my memory serves. That versatility is always useful. And Sully has a way of getting the best out of players, especially if they're fast. If Pirri is looking at a one year, 1 mil prove it deal, just show me where to sign.
- Victoro311



Cheaper than Vanek, and both pretty much now being a 20 goal scorer potential. Sure, I'll scratch Vanek desires for him.


But I will not give up on Vesey until he signs.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:29 PM ET
I wish Scuds would retire. He won't but it would be nice. Never ending pain with his contract.

Cole played very well for his cap hit. I wouldn't move him. I don't think you can find a reliable replacement for much cheaper.

- madmike71

There's no reason to move Fehr until Sundqvist is ready to step into his role, and as promising as Sundqvist looks, there's no telling if he'll be ready by this year or next to be more than a 13th forward.

We don't have the defensive depth to trade goal. We don't have the LW depth to trade Kunitz. The only logical source of cap relief would have been Fleury.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:32 PM ET
Cheaper than Vanek, and both pretty much now being a 20 goal scorer potential. Sure, I'll scratch Vanek desires for him.


But I will not give up on Vesey until he signs.

- Guile

he won't sign until earliest august the 15th sadly
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:32 PM ET
he won't sign until earliest august the 15th sadly
- martox



Like hot blonde twins... worth the wait
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:36 PM ET
Actually I think most here loved him during the Tampa series, and even more against SJ. Finally looked in better condition.
- Guile


Exactly, but yet, a lot of people want to ditch him to make way for an enigma that has been a bust. Fehr is very under appreciated.
hipcheck_goalie
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: shreveport, LA
Joined: 02.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
I honestly thought Scuds would retire... I was heavily under the impression that was implied with his Chi-LA trade. I think one of the two bloggers suggested that, and it made sense.
- Guile

Do you realize that not only are we paying his salary but Chicago is too... They are paying him 1.15 mil too... LA gets him for 1.15 mil per... Still not worth it in my opinion.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:38 PM ET
Do you realize that not only are we paying his salary but Chicago is too... They are paying him 1.15 mil too... LA gets him for 1.15 mil per... Still not worth it in my opinion.
- hipcheck_goalie



Yes, I am well aware his salary has been split 3 ways. I still was under the impression he was retiring.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:39 PM ET
something very small but we signed this guy
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=217503
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 6:40 PM ET
Whats with the love for Yak? He put up 8 goals last year. Thats swimming near BB level of awful as far as 1st round level production.
- sammy87


Because he is the best example in the league of someone you take a chance on. He has elite NHL level speed, shot and puck skills, he is also a decent play maker too.

If this year has taught us anything its that a player in a bad situation for them will play badly. Look at Sid before the coaching change, he wasn't even in the top 100 in scoring, people we shipping him out of here!
Yakupov is in a bad situation in Edmonton, there is a chance and IMO a very good chance that he excels here in our system and an excelling Yakupov is a bonified top 6 sniper.

Mark my words he will be the steal of the summer for whomever gets him.
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