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jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:18 PM ET
Hopefully there is an offer on table for Schultz for either 2yr deal @ 3 mil or 3yr deal @ 2.5 mil
- nh4442


I doubt there is because he's not signing either of those deals right now so why offer? At this point all you can do is keeping the conversation open and wait to see what his market value is then make a counter offer once his value is set, no need to insult him with a lowball offer.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:19 PM ET
That's not how QO offers work, the team that offers the QO get the right to match any offer another team gives the player or receive compensation in return. The Pens would have to offer Nich a contract that he agrees to and then the Stars would have to match the contract or get the compensation based off of how much the Pens offer in the contract. You don't match QOs.
- jaydogg1974

I know how they work, that's what I was talking about. If pens put in an offersheet what would they give up if Dallas doesn't match....


Remember I play Xbox
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:20 PM ET
Cap friendly has an awesome tool to determine the RFAs QOs. Nich is $874,125
- drummer829

There's just no point to sheeting Nichushkin. The highest it would make sense to offer sheet him is a pretty standard bridge deal of 1.5 mil X 2 years, which the Stars would certainly match. We don't have the cap space to take a big flyer on him and overpay, nor would it be super smart to.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:21 PM ET
Stamkos is just messing with everyone. He actually going to sign with KHL team.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:21 PM ET
Marcus Naslund for Alek Stojanov.....DOH!
- madmike71


That was a beauty. So was Jagr to Washington for Sivek, Beech and Lupasack.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
Here's the compensation picks based on salary for offer sheets:
http://www.generalfanager...om/draftpicks/offersheets

martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
they should 100% qual offer nich. they won't but they should
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
That was a beauty. So was Jagr to Washington for Sivek, Beech and Lupasack.
- Oneonta Penguin


Kind of explains those Craig Patrick and his love of bourbon rumors. Throw in Eddie O as HC.
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
I know a lot of people on here like to complain about the Lovejoy for Despres trade, but it could have been worse...

At least the Pens didn't trade Forsberg for Martin freakin Erat...

- cap1681

No, but the Pens did draft Pouliot when Forsberg was still on the board (as well as Trouba, Koekkoek, Girgensons, Ceci, Hertl, Teravainen, and Vasilevskiy). Forsberg is still a sore spot for Pens fans.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:31 PM ET
There's just no point to sheeting Nichushkin. The highest it would make sense to offer sheet him is a pretty standard bridge deal of 1.5 mil X 2 years, which the Stars would certainly match. We don't have the cap space to take a big flyer on him and overpay, nor would it be super smart to.
- Victoro311


Let's pretend the pens were interested in yakupov for a 2nd round pick and also the stars wouldn't match an offer sheet at 2.5 mil for nichushkin. Who would you rather have, nich or yaks at 2.5 mil
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:33 PM ET
You don't think a lesser version of Kessel could help? I don't blame you if you don't. I'm just saying thats what he is.
- Zac_O

No, Vanek IS the player that Kessel was falsely accused of being. That's the only similarity I see between the two.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
No, but the Pens did draft Pouliot when Forsberg was still on the board (as well as Trouba, Koekkoek, Girgensons, Ceci, Hertl, Teravainen, and Vasilevskiy). Forsberg is still a sore spot for Pens fans.
- T-Train


He just got a 6 year/36 mil deal. Roster would look very different with him on it
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
He just got a 6 year/36 mil deal. Roster would look very different with him on it
- drummer829

Basically we wouldn't have Kessel (but would have everything we traded for him). Essentially the same salary.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:37 PM ET
No, but the Pens did draft Pouliot when Forsberg was still on the board (as well as Trouba, Koekkoek, Girgensons, Ceci, Hertl, Teravainen, and Vasilevskiy). Forsberg is still a sore spot for Pens fans.
- T-Train

it happens to every team
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
it happens to every team
- martox

I know, it just sounds a little funny to say "at least we didn't ..." in reference to Forsberg.

As it turns out, it was very satisfying to see Kessel hoist the Cup. And hey, we won the Cup!!!
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
I know, it just sounds a little funny to say "at least we didn't ..." in reference to Forsberg.
- T-Train

true.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
Let's pretend the pens were interested in yakupov for a 2nd round pick and also the stars wouldn't match an offer sheet at 2.5 mil for nichushkin. Who would you rather have, nich or yaks at 2.5 mil
- drummer829

Nich 100%
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:43 PM ET
Let's pretend the pens were interested in yakupov for a 2nd round pick and also the stars wouldn't match an offer sheet at 2.5 mil for nichushkin. Who would you rather have, nich or yaks at 2.5 mil
- drummer829

Nichushkin but with no salary going anywhere, I just don't see how this works for us. And something tells me the Stars would match anything under 3 mil.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
Nichushkin but with no salary going anywhere, I just don't see how this works for us. And something tells me the Stars would match anything under 3 mil.
- Victoro311

If I was a team I would do it and make Dallas pay for him. Dallas is just being cheap
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
No reason to freak when we're talking about 7/8 d men to push DP and to step in when injuries hit. Zidlicky's a good option that I had considered. I've been suggesting Schlemko, Warsofsky, and Diaz. Others have suggest Gryba and Bartowski.
- Victoro311


I'm not sure Schlemko is going to fit salary rise because I expect him to get a raise that pushes him out of our limits and I'm not a fan of Diaz but I don't have a problem with Warsofasky, Gryba or Bartowski. I also wouldn't mind bring Dylan Reese in as a possible bounce between.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
No, but the Pens did draft Pouliot when Forsberg was still on the board (as well as Trouba, Koekkoek, Girgensons, Ceci, Hertl, Teravainen, and Vasilevskiy). Forsberg is still a sore spot for Pens fans.


To be fair, that was one of the weirdest drafts of recent memory. Some of them 1st roundies aren't even established NHLers. The guy who went 11th overall will probably end up being the best player picked
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
If I was a team I would do it and make Dallas pay for him. Dallas is just being cheap
- nh4442

then the other gms are gonna do the same to your team and (frank) them over. offersheet
is a very dangerous world and not something gms feel like messing with cuz it will bite you in the ass
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
then the other gms are gonna do the same to your team and (frank) them over. offersheet
is a very dangerous world and not something gms feel like messing with cuz it will bite you in the ass

- martox



Luiz Suarez + Claude Giroux = ass biter
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
Luiz Suarez + Claude Giroux = ass biter
- DeflatedPucks

thx... now I will never lose the picture of suarez and girouxs mixed face....
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:05 PM ET
I know how they work, that's what I was talking about. If pens put in an offersheet what would they give up if Dallas doesn't match....


Remember I play Xbox

- nh4442


That isn't what you said at all, you asked what the Pens would have to give up if they matched the QO. So you didn't know how they worked.
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